So yeah I'm not gonna do that again, it wasn't that it was difficult but it was just greasy..
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Hey guys remind me not to do this again. Saving a buck is just covering me in grease, i'm getting pissed off this video is brought to you by sportlin quality integrity and tradition. Well, we had an exhaust fan that failed. The motor failed on it.
This one right here it failed about a week and a half ago and it's a mainline exhaust fan. It actually used to go there. They actually had a prep exhaust fan on the opposite side that wasn't as critical. So what we did temporarily was, we made sure it was somewhat within spec and we swapped the exhaust fans to get the restaurant operational temporarily and that's why you see like it's just temporary some electrical tape and stuff like that, so we got it operational well today, I have the new parts to fix it correctly, so we bought a power pack assembly which essentially, is all the components for the inside without the shell of the exhaust fan.
So i have a power pack. Assembly right here comes with the motor. The wheel already assembled. We're going to get started on changing that out now.
This is the first time i've ever changed a power pack assembly, but it didn't look too difficult, so we're going to jump into it all right. So if i didn't say it already, this is a captive air exhaust fan. Now i've never done the power pack replacement, and just you know, to clarify here this metal round shroud on the bottom is just for shipping to protect the wheel. The only part that's getting installed is the upper lip and then the wheel and all that good stuff.
So we come over here and we look at this fan and it looks like i'm gon na have to disassemble the fan a little bit um. It's kind of greasy in there which i'm not a super fan of so we'll see. This might be the first and last time i do one of these power packs, rather than just change the fan. The appeal was, i didn't want to have to bring a crane.
I've done other exhaust fans that you guys have seen a video of me changing that exhaust fan where we used a crane, and this was rather inexpensive, comparative to an entire exhaust fan replacement and a crane and all that stuff. But we'll see once i go through all the install labor of changing this out so from the looks of it, i'm going to disconnect this electrical we're going to have to get this uh breather port right here off and then get the cotter pin out this assembly Is probably going to have to come off we're going to have to pull these arms they're going to have to be loosened whether or not we can pull the whole thing as one assembly is what i'm thinking yeah and that's where we're going so it looks like I am going to have to get in there to do some screws and things which kind of sucks i've already got grease on my arm, which i'm not super happy about. I think what i'm going to do, too is more than likely pick up this exhaust fan and set it on the ground. It had the original hinge brackets, which actually just took off so now.
I can safely sit on the ground without hurting anything. So i think i'm going to do that, but i'm going to get this electrical disconnected first and get the cotter pins out and then we'll probably set it on the ground and start working from there again. I've never done one of these, but just slowly disassembling it just kind of using you know, mechanical common sense, so pull the cotter pins without breaking them. Once i did that this breather port pushes through so then from the looks of it now that is free, and i should be able to pull this whole shroud up now. This piece is not on the new one, so this is going to have to bolt to it. I'm pretty sure that this whole assembly is going to come out from the top. We've got the electrical disconnected i'll change the conduit more than likely i'm thinking i'm going to have to undo those guys, but you know now that i look at it. It looks like maybe i could pull this whole top shroud with those those screws right there, because this looks like it inserts into that.
You know this interesting huh when you are doing stuff like this, you have to think of the worst case scenario. So i remember my technician talking to me about this and i gave him the idea to swap the fans. Okay, that worked, but look at what my technician did. He went above and beyond and he went ahead and strapped the fans down with some plumbing tape.
Now i know that's simple, but what what he was thinking here was what happens if the grease cleaning company came in the meantime and tried to hinge the fan without looking, because it's not connected to the hinges so by him doing that he prevented ruining an entire Exhaust fan and noticed that he did him for both, so you always want to think about that kind of stuff, because if it can happen, it will happen. That's the way, i always think about things um. You know best case scenario: it doesn't and you're a happy camper, but i always try to think if it can at will. You know and you try to prepare for the worst all right.
We got it on the ground and i had to remove these support brackets. So you got to do a 7 16 and a 3 8 nut and bolt right here and then this is just a 3 8 tech screw. So when we pull that off - and yes - i am getting pretty greasy here - so i'm not a huge fan of this. My tools are going to have to be totally degreased, but when you do that, then you got that off, so we're almost there, but it looks like there's another bolt down lower to get that whole top shroud off.
So i've had this this multi-tool for years. It's like a convertible rigid thing: you buy different heads for it and the head can rotate. So i use it. This is a um impact head, so this is going to do really good because that's a phillips head screw down in there and i don't want to get my hands all nasty and i can get in there and just you know, pull it right out.
In fact, let's see in reverse reverse, i don't think that there's a nut on the backside of this guy so yeah. Oh, there is a nut dang it i'm gon na have to get my hands under there that sucks, because it's broken free, bummer all right. I'm getting a little bit greasier than i want to already, but um there's actually a screw right here on all four sides and then once you do that this whole shroud will come off and then it'll be easier to get in there and work. So i'm going to pop that off and then i'll get the rest of it taken apart, yeah, it's getting a bit silly. What i got to do to get this thing apart, i'm i'm thinking it would have been easier just to pay for a crane. Try to save a buck end up spending 20., but we're getting there and i'm going to flip this guy over. Take those phillips head screws out. I got to get to a nut on the back side right there, and then we should be able to pull the power pack assembly out.
Hey guys remind me not to do this again. Saving a buck is just covering me in grease. I'm getting pissed off and see what i just did there. I like to wipe my nose, but i got grease right there freaking annoying.
I got like a tiny little cut on my hand, but that can't be good with all that nasty ass grease. I've got that back together. I'm gon na put the nuts back on the bottom down here and then we'll drop this shroud on and hope that everything fits and works right, yeah that was kind of a pain in the butt. If it wasn't a grease fan, it wouldn't be that big of a deal, but the fact that it's full of grease just is nasty.
I got ta go, get some more towels from the restaurant too. All right, i got the bottom ones lined up now. I need to put these uh l brackets or whatever z brackets whatever and those are gon na, be a pain and i'm gon na get greasy doing that. So, okay, i got the electrical all wired in um into here into here.
I went ahead and pre-wired the conduit. This is a 115 volt fan, which is another thing, that's really silly, but um installing the cover, because we shouldn't have to get in here anymore. It's all wired up for ground yeah, so we're just gon na put this guy on make sure we dial it in and then we're gon na drag it over there. Now that exhaust fan is running right now, so i'm gon na have to do a swap.
I only want it down for the minimal amount of time, so that's why i pre-wired everything and got it all ready, because i only want to turn it off. Have it off for five ten minutes at the most then turn it back on then. I have plenty of time to pre or to wire the prep hood, because i'm not worried about the prep hood. All right, i got it running.
Um did a quick swap on it. I have a feeling, my condo, it might be too short, but i'm gon na. Let it run for a few minutes and assemble the hinges and then we'll hinge it and see. If the condor will work it might work, it might not, but at least it's running now and then we'll deal with that, one that guy right there was a heavy bad boy. This one was a lot lighter. I'd say this was 20, maybe 30 pounds lighter 20 pounds lighter this one's ridiculous, but this is all aluminum and that one has steel in it. So um yeah we're doing okay. So i'm gon na do a current test and then go from there uh.
We are allowed to run 9.6 amps and we're under current. So that's a plus so we'll get this taped up and well actually we're not going to tape that up till we hinge it to make sure everything's good. Given the choice, i do not like these hinges: they're just really crappy design. This hinge style right here.
This is a super hinge by omni containment. They are by far the most superior exhaust fan hinge out there. Basically, once you put one on you're, really, never gon na have to change it again um, but this is just a dumb design. They're not installed right they're.
Never gon na work right. Okay, now i got a giant mess and i got to clean up all my tools because they got grease all over them, but we are fixed. I went ahead and redid the conduit for both of the exhaust fans they're both running now, but i redirected them because they were going the wrong way. The conduits didn't need to be that long.
This one right here, it's it's set up better too. So everything is working. I need to put the lid on it, but they're operational in a perfect world. I'd like them to get rid of that stupid hinge right there, because it doesn't do anything it doesn't even grab.
I mean i'd love to put on a super hinge from omni, but we'll see i'm going to close this invoice out, though we can bring it up to them and deal with it at another time if they want but yeah. That's it just got to clean up. My messes, i was uh, you know trying to be as efficient as possible, so i originally brought conduit and electrical fittings and everything. So i didn't have to go down to the truck a bunch of times.
You know that kind of stuff so always bring a bucket up, so i have a place for all the trash and everything now, but that's it we're gon na wrap it up. So we live and we learn on some of these right um. I thought you know: hey i'd, give it a shot changing that power pack on that unit um. I will never do that again on a greasy exhaust fan.
It was just it was everywhere. I got home, took a shower. My tool still feel greasy to me. Um.
You know whatever you know i i i tried to help the customer out. You know to try to save a couple bucks but yeah. No, not again we're not going to do that again. So next time we'll just change the whole fan um and just get a crane out there, because that was just silly.
You know when it comes to lifting those fans on the roof too. You know when i made the video where i showed me lifting that exhaust vent on the roof. I got a bunch of pushback from a lot of people and - and it doesn't bother me it just kind of makes me laugh, because people were criticizing me because i used a crane for an exhaust fan like seriously. Are you guys really? You know when i made that video criticizing, because someone chose to be smart and do less work and have a crane lift an exhaust fan onto a roof. You know whatever, but it just makes me laugh. You know like i just i don't know. Sometimes i'm dumbfounded by some of that stuff, but but anyways i went off on a tangent and here we are talking about a totally different video um in this one right here, uh, you know i got to give props to my tech. I'm super happy that he did those little things like strapping that exhaust fan down with the plumber's tape, like that's so important, to remember, to do that kind of stuff, because you know what happens if they had the grease cleaners come in and they they come in.
Usually, at nighttime the grease cleaners do and they'll go to lift a fan and yeah. They should be checking and yeah. They should you know it's their responsibility to make sure it's hinged right and all that stuff, but still okay, if it can, it will that's the way i approach things. If it can happen, it will happen so always assume that it's gon na happen.
Okay, assume the worst and if it doesn't happen, hey you're in a good place. You know, but you are prepared for the worst right so um it was pretty much a straightforward replacement on this thing. It's just a matter of mechanically taking it apart. Looking at how it goes together using some mechanical common sense, i know that's like a voodoo word and people might be triggered or offended by the word common sense, but i used mechanical common sense.
I just looked at it and i said: look these screws here looks like i got to pull this apart and just slowly disassemble the exhaust fan. I didn't, have any instructions. Nobody told me how to do it. I just kind of figured it out.
Okay and uh. You know i was able to get it together. I was able to put it back together without having any parts left over, which is always a plus on a side. Note again, i know i go off on tandem, so i used to work at a body shop when i was a kid and when i left that body shop, i still have a toolbox in my garage with two antifreeze containers, with the side of them cut out That we would use for like screws and bolts and stuff like that.
I still have nuts and bolts and screws and all kinds of crap left over from when i worked at a body shop, my job was taking cars apart and putting them back together. So i have so much stuff and it's like. Oh, i wonder what this bolt does and i wonder what this does, because there's so much on a car but anyways i'm going going off on a tangent again, so i didn't have anything left over. So that was a good day on this exhaust van okay um.
You know it really wasn't too hard, but again we have to remember to go in there check current make sure it's not over amping. You know go through the normal steps, the proper procedures to make sure we get this thing running properly, making sure that it hinges. You know making sure the conduit is not too tight and it wasn't actually, i kind of thought that it was going to be too tight, but no the conduit worked out perfect. I didn't have to change anything. All was good. Okay. I really appreciate you guys making it to the end of the video. Thank you so very much.
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You live in California. Isn't common sense banned? Are you in Barrhaven ?
I'm actually surprised you didn't pull out the Venom pack coil brightener once you had it apart.
It’s part of the beast of working on stuff you’re going to get dirty. My job for instants I would never use my work tools outside of work on anybody else’s stuff. I work in a steel mill with carbon dust and tons of grease. That Greece is nothing compared to what goes on at work Service area Barrhaven??
I assume you never work on your own car?
The restaurant I worked at has a belt driven unit. Our biggest headache was changing the belt. The motor went bad once and the technician had it replaced in 20min. A lot like a swamp cooler motor.
Did it once. Never again. Replace the unit and fuq anyone who doesn’t like it. My way or call someone else
look at it like this – that grease is efficient skin conditioner.
For a moment there I thought the voodoo word was gonna be Mechanical 😂
2600 series electric train .Front draw bar maintenance tear down and replace worn out specs. parts saturated with human piss grease and sometimes a nice pile of shit to greet your work day!
first mistake was a captive air 2nd was direct drive! Or vis versa! Only repair belt driven. Replace direct drive. Service area Kanata??
Murphy's law is stated as: "Anything that can go wrong will go wrong"
I will quote a conversation me and my father had watching this as I was out on my deck watching this and my dad came out. (dad) afraid of geese what a pansy, (laughs in diesel mechanic) (me) well he is from California) (dad) well that explains it (me) laugh (dad sarcastically) wait a Californian up on a roof working who doesn't speak Spanish well he cant be that bad, but still what a pansy. I cant stop laughing still
common sense, what's that?
which sums up the schooling and upbringing of the past 20+ years, common sense went out the window.
On second thought…. You could clean it with the yellow viper pack and it'll obliterate all of the grease or even better, brake clean everything. You're a technician with great integrity and honesty. That's what keeps me watching these videos from time and time again.
Our business ideas are apparently very different. Not being such a pansy about some grease gives a much better value to the customer rather than replacing with a new unit and the cost of the crane for it. I can only imagine that will will be thousands more. Look into some Tyvek like suits that you can roll up and throw away, and Thickster gloves to get you through it. The tool cleaning doesn't take long. I agree that clean tools are important, I learned a long time ago that a grease gun shouldn't be greasy.
When you do have to put stuff on a roof, that crane is a great safety factor! Cheers!
Car mechanics covered in oil and grease looking this video: "Are we a joke to you?" XD
Ahhhhh Nothing like a good roof shaker!!!
If it’s replacing a motor that’s OK sometimes bearings that’s OK but honestly some of them are so cheap it’s actually cheaper to replace the whole fan assembly then re-building it. Just because you will save money in the long run on labor and you get a warranty!!!
One idea would be to tell customer that if they want to get the grease cleaners out, you'll do it. That way they save a buck and get clean fans, and you get a decent experience.
Priceless the complaining about getting greasy… will you this week when going live wear a Cinderella dress 👗?
Great 📹 thank you for sharing.
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Grease isn’t too bad. Try cleaning a deep fryer or grease trap. I haven’t cleaned one but there’s worse greasy jobs out there.
I worked on exhaust fans for a steak house. That was REALLY NASTY. Ended up throwing my clothes away after job was done.
Well now we know the real reason why Chris doesn't do the hot side of restaurants. Unfortunately, grease is normal in my line of work.
could you schedule with the restaurant the person that does dishes follow you up to the roof to decrease the hood before the work? Or use those gloves for animal treatment that cover your entire arm?
I really recommend carrying like a roll of blue shop towels and/or a tub of grip clean wipes if your able to
why didn't you use your degrease coil cleaner at first, it's on you to make your workplace clean at first, so don't wine about it. If the fan is bad in the first place, water wouldn't do a thing to it. But your are right it's not a nice job also when it truns into butyric acid.
I would add, here, that assuming the worst isn't always economical, either. Be prepared, but don't be over-prepared, especially when those extra preparations cost you money. Be reasonably sure that you've given it some thought, so that you're okay with yourself – but you can't save people from themselves. Above and beyond – yes… but not every failure is your responsibility.
I think that, in most situations, replacement parts (as opposed to a unit replacement) tend to not be worth the hassle. I mean, it's one thing if you enjoy doing the repair (which I do, which is why I almost exclusively go for replacement parts), or when the cost of the replacement unit as a whole is exorbitant (does happen)… but for the most part, replacing the unit is going to be more economical. I mean, you have to consider your own time expenditure as well, and by the time you're done reassembling the thing – it may very well cost about the same in terms of the invoice… and you're tired and irritated on top of it. ;-] But here's something to keep in mind: the more of the unit you manage to save, the less of it is going to a landfill…
Dude just buy a shirt from wallmart and throw it away when your done.
Chris, why waste your effort with aluminum exhaust fans?
I have been doing this for 43 years now, I have maintained Burger Kings most of the time and when these fans go out I replace them with Central Blower Units.
All steel design, 85% less grease on roof, easy to maintain.
I have some units that I have not touched except to change belts for more than 20 years. Captive Air stole the design and is now selling them.
Central Blower series RE, burger Kings use RE-15.
Aluminum fans were never designed to run on grease hoods. Are you in Nepean ?
Jw but since ur replacing motor and all with the power head, once it set on the roof away from the vent couldnt u use some degreaser and wash it before disassembly to help with the grease issue
Idky but the title just makes me laugh 😂 Definitely famous last words
Chris, I am just like you. I don't blame you one bit about about the grease.
Can you please recommend a really good coil cleaner? I have tried a few and not happy with the results. What would you suggest? Thank you so much. Are you in Orleans ?
Hey Chris,just a friendly reminder, don't do that again!
For the amount of money you make your such a cry baby. You get paid to sweat and get dirty it's HVAC Are you in Ottawa ?
I hope you’ve added that shirt cost to the bill.
Im a kitchen exhaust cleaner our tools live in fan grease lol. A good kec company could have had it bare metal for you
I remember my first one , took it completely part lol I haven’t done one since , I was soooo greasy lol
On the plus side, the grease will keep that cut from rusting until you can tend to it.
I would not rebuild the fan if it was me. I could’ve replaced the whole thing. Service area Nepean??