Bosch has now been making heat pumps for a few years and have started offering more products and equipment. This video is meant to introduce the 15 SEER, 18 SEER, and 20 SEER lines. Bosch has carved out a niche and is showing more flexibility by offering what we would consider a "Good, Better, Best" option now.
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Hey guys before we get to the video for more tips and tricks in the heating and air industry, please click that subscribe button. Thank you. Hey guys, josh with new hvac guide and griffin air wanted to do a video piggybacking off a video that i did in the past and basically, in that first video i talked about the bosch heat pump line. Yep i mean bosch the same folks that make your dishwasher your clothes washer your dryer, the tools in your garage all that stuff.
They also make heat pumps now, and i did a video talking about them back then, when they first came out, they really only had one system, they did two separate sizes and based on the installation. If it was installed properly, you could put in one of the two systems and program it correctly wire it correctly and it could change the capacity for that particular size home. So it's not oversized and you would get a true inverter system. I actually made a claim in that first video, because i do believe some of the other brands are missing out on this technology and basically, what bosch has done is they're, taking the suction line pressure coming back from the evaporator coil and using that as their measurement For that outdoor unit to ramp up and down with a true inverter system, so a lot of the other brands out there great brands, great technology, all that stuff.
They use communicating technology to where the indoor and outdoor units can talk to one another ramp up and down, and all of that well, the problem with that is you're restricted on for one you're restricted on the controllers or your thermostats. You can only use their brand. Some of them need to listen to us out in the field and their customers on how good or bad their thermostats are, but that's a whole nother topic, but you're not going to be able to go to lowe's or home depot. You're not going to be able to go, get your nest or your ecobee or something like that off the shelf and install it with that system, because it's a communicating system, whereas with bosch you can, you can go, get one of those thermostats.
Now i'm hearing conflicting information, we were told when we took the bosch class to not use a smart thermostat, in particular the nest thermostats. They told us that in the class do not use those, but i'm hearing from other folks that are installing them that they were not told that and they've installed them with them and they work fine. So you know take that with what you will. That being said, that video is a little outdated now some things have changed and that's what i wanted to talk about in this video, so bosch has transitioned after that, first year or two they had.
You know their first system that they had and they ended up calling that the 1.0 line - it was their 18 seer system and it had a constant torque air handler, and then they came out with what they called their 2.0, and that was more of a variable. Speed air handler a little bit bigger outdoor unit and things like that, so so for a while there that was the two systems and then they came out with their package unit and their package unit's pretty awesome. It's 19 seer and super quiet in comparison to a lot of other package units and during the making of this video i could be wrong, but i believe that's probably the highest seer package unit on the market. There might be another one out there, i'm not sure, but a lot of the big name brands they make their package units and they're not super worried about, because we are told the market is just not there for them to get super crazy. So what bosch did was the other way around. Instead of making those lower end, they just went ahead and came out with a high sear package unit, it's kind of impressive. Actually, let me get back to their heat pumps, their split systems where they had the 1.0 and the 2.0, and now you transition into this year, and they now have three different setups and what's interesting. Is they have three different s type systems? You can now get a 15 15 to 16 ish system, an 18 ish system and a 20 ish system, but they really only make four components now again, there's going to be two different sizes, but let's just stay with a you know, one and a half up To three ton capacity and they're only using four different components, so they have two air handlers and two heat pump, condensers and, depending on the match up, that's how you get what your sears going to be i'll, put a link to their website and down in the Description, so you can check that out.
I think that's pretty interesting. Basically, what they're doing is they've now got an air handler that is a psc motor, just a regular single speed motor. Just like you used to have and they're pairing that with that 18 seer that what we would have called 1.0 heat pump in the past and that's how they get the 15 seer. And then you keep that same outdoor unit and you pair it with their constant torque air handler that they always had and now you're back to the 18 seer.
And then you keep that air handler, but then put this other outdoor unit, the 20 seer. So they don't have from what i can tell i'm not seeing the variable speed anymore air handler so you're, either going to be a psc on the 15 seer line or you're going to be the constant torque air handler on the 18 or 20 seer line. So i've been careful about not talking about some of the model numbers and such because they change, and you know all that stuff. This video could become outdated really quickly, but it's all on their website.
I'll put it in there. The cool thing about bosch. Is they don't hide anything like some of the other brands? You can go right to their website. You can pull up the same information i can pull up and at the bottom of their heat pump.
Page they've got their brochures. They've got their quick start guides, but they also have the installation manuals and the spec sheets, so you could pull that up check it out, see if it's a fit for your home. I don't think that bosch is the greatest at everything i don't think they're the end all for all homes, but there are certain applications that i think that they are the best option. There are certain homes. If you have a manufactured house with an electric furnace or a mobile home, the savings you can see us, we have customers in our market, they have an electric furnace for their heat and they have a straight ac outdoor for their ac and they are burning straight Heat strips in a mobile home in the winter time you go putting in a bosch heat pump, nice high, sear, 18 seer bosch heat pump, match that with an indoor coil with that thing and run that on heat on those mild days, your utility bills, i'm telling You we've done it for several customers; it will blow your mind, so i hope that helps if you're checking out different brands or you're checking out the bosch brand. Specifically, i think it's interesting what they're doing. I think it's pretty cool that basically they've got four components. Of course, that's up to three ton and then they've got four more components up to five ton for the residential and then just with those they can offer.
Basically hundreds of different setups really uh. You know some of the other brands. You know if you're going to do a ton and a half a two ton: two and a half and three time you're, looking at four different condensers four different air handlers right there, then, if you wanted to do variable, speed indoor air handler now you're talking about Four and four again even more, it's just really interesting how bosh can simplify it and only make a few pieces of equipment to cover so many bases with that said, please read the instructions, i don't care if you're, the installer or who you are or how many You've put in every time i've done one of these videos on bosch's and i get some feedback. People saying that they're having issues i would say the majority of the time is because the installer did not read the instructions and install it properly program it properly.
Flip, the right dip switches on we've heard folks talk about the humidity problems they have after installing a bosch. Well, that's because you're oversizing it for your home, if you're, not installing it properly, your home might only need 1.9 units of cooling or whatever after you do. The heat load calculations, if you did a conventional standard system, you might have only did a two ton, but because now you've went with bosch. You technically have a three ton system in there and it wasn't installed properly giving you the two ton capacity and that's why you're having moisture issues.
So that being said, i hope that helps got any questions. Put it down in the comments thanks for watching the last thing i'll say, is: if you're in the market for a new heating and air system and you're in virginia and the middle peninsula or the northern neck, give griffin air a call. We'll give you a free estimate and the best warranty in the area, but if you're not in our coverage area check out my new website, i've even got a little banner up here. New hvac guide, dot com check out that site because we've put so much information on there. It's as if i wrote a book telling folks, hey here's, the good and the bad avoid this or that i've even got a whole page called no knows things to stay away from, and so before you spend thousands check out that website and finally, for more tips And tricks in the heating and air industry click that subscribe button thanks for watching you.
I have an issue where the Bosch is switching to the aux heat when it really shouldn’t need to do so. Temps outside are moderate and I have it set on 69*. Is there a way to adjust the changeover via the Bosch thermostat, or a different thermostat that would allow it?
My Bosch BC100 thermostat keeps having connectivity issues. I’ve turned power off, reset it and I think it is toast. Side note I have the 18seer Bosch inverter heat pump and the nest thermostat had issues after a year thats why i have this thermostat. six months later splash thermostat keeps shutting off and on. what thermostat would you recommend?
The issue with the Nest or Ecobee Thermostats in a Bosch system, is the learning algorithm in the thermostat, will conflict with the learning algorithm in the heat pump.
If you set up the smart thermostats and disable the learning mode, it will work just fine.
Thanks for your videos! Wondering why some Bosch training said stay away from smart thermostats. I'm looking to replace mom's 3-ton gas pack and the Bosch unit just looks like a no-brainer on specs. 18.5 SEER vs. 14 for everyone else. (Mom's got solar, so losing the gas heat works out ok on heating cost.) Only problem is that local installers don't seem to be offering Bosch. Yet. Service area Kanata??
Any concerns with snow or sleet interfering with top air discharge on the 2.0 8 speed ( 1.0 has just 2 speeds)
Im wondering what the upfront cost of the Bosch is. Parts pricing and availability? Cant see this product make a Big splash in the industry.
Here’s a question for you! Would you be willing to go full Bosch and leave diakin ? Since they are offering other equipment now.
Excellent video but I am still a little confused. I just plunked down some money on a 3 ton unit (listed on the invoice as "Bosch (BOVA 36-HN1) 18 SEER Modulating with Inverter Technology") which will be mated to a BMAC3036BNTD coil installed in my existing Amana Goodman furnace (GHM95 series 2 stage). This is replacing a Goodman 2.5 ton unit which of course had a warranty that expired in January. Looking at Bosch documentation I found the 18 SEER units are now BOVB instead. I'm not sure what the difference is between BOVA and BOVB. Based on what is said in this video I think the BOVBs are 1.0 models. Since the description for my unit says modulating is that a 2.0 model? I don't know if the BOVB is better in some way (better parts, design flaw fix, more reliable?) and I should ask for that instead? Note that the 20 SEERs are still listed as BOVA. If I am reading the charts correctly, when combined with that coil the BOVA 36 has more cooling capacity and is more efficient than the BOVB 36 (17.5 SEER vs 14.5) although the BOVB has a slight edge in heating capacity and a higher CFM. Based on the performance data I would prefer the BOVA so maybe I shouldn't worry about it.
So didn't they have like 5 speed(or variable depending on the load) airhandler last year and why would they get rid of it?
Great points! There have been issues with thermostats mentioned in some cases. For some reason they will drop the cooling or heating call, and this makes the outdoor unit start the process over again. I have also seen that people size for heating, which can oversize the unit for cooling mode. I never sized heat pumps for heating, and always sized for cooling and never had any issues with heating.
i have a 1500 sqf home and i want my next unit to be able to cool the house down to 70 degrees in 117 degree weather one is it feasible and two it is a r22 split unit being condenser is on the outside of the house and the evaporator is in the attic will it cost much more to go with a r32 unit that can do such a thing over what is today's so called standard new installations.
I've been enjoying your videos, thanks for doing them! I've been extensively researching AC units to replace our two 17 year old ducted split systems. They're so loud. I've been looking at DC inverter based systems, and took a close look at these Bosch ones. I really want variable speed though and the internal unit seems like it only does 2 speeds. Here's what the Bosch website says, "BVA20 two stage x13 ECM style air handler.". They also do a 2 stage gas furnace too. Since sound level is my biggest concern, and secondly I'd like a more compact side discharge unit I've narrowed the field to Daikin, Fujitsu and Mitsubishi.
Thanks for the informative Bosch video. Question, The new Bosch 2.0 shows an operating range of 36 to 130 % whereas the previous 2.0 sowed the operating range of 25 to 110 %. Is there a different compressor on the current 2.0? Are you in Ottawa ?
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