There are salespeople in lots of industries. Some can be slick and use surprising tactics to gain more sales and leave customers feeling swindled afterward at times. HVAC as an industry is no different. There are companies and salespeople using all kinds of strategies to gain sales and drive numbers only at the literal expense of homeowners like you.
I've compiled a list of some of these shocking tactics that I've learned from watching other contractors at work or have actually been taught in marketing/sales classes over the years.
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I've compiled a list of some of these shocking tactics that I've learned from watching other contractors at work or have actually been taught in marketing/sales classes over the years.
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Our favorite products?
You can purchase a Honeywell T4 thermostat by clicking here: https://amzn.to/3wnn2UM
You can purchase a Honeywell 8000 Wifi thermostat by clicking here: https://amzn.to/3eieqbZ
Griffin Air LLC is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to amazon.com. Amazon offers a small commission on products sold through their affiliate links. Each of your purchases via our Amazon affiliation links supports our cause at no additional cost to you.
Hey guys before we get to the video for more tips and tricks in the heating and air industry, please click that subscribe button. Thank you: hey guys, joshua griffin, air and the new hvac guide and wanted to do this. Video piggybacking off of a few videos. I've done recently, and i've really stepped on a lot of toes i'm getting some haters.
I've had some people get pretty upset with me for telling you guys what some of the tricks of the trade some secrets and some things you should be watching out, for i even had one guy, just literally just get so mad. He was blowing me up. Trolling me - and he was just so mad that i admitted in one of my videos that some companies changed their pricing based on how busy they are. Obviously folks are allowed to charge whatever they want to charge.
But i'm also allowed to tell you, as a viewer of my youtube channel that that's the case, so i don't think it's really honestly that big of a secret, i think it's pretty well known, that the car industry changes their prices based on certain factors, how many Sales they're trying to reach and what part of the month i've even heard, there's certain parts of the month that are better than others, but when it comes to the heating and air industry. For some reason, people get so upset. If you share some of these secrets, this joker was telling me how horrible i am and how my business was going to go out of business soon and all this stuff. So, anyway, to piggyback off of all that, i figured i'd step on a few more toes, and i wanted to do a video, because i have actually set through some sales classes classes where they teach you how to sell more heating and air equipment in your business Or for the company you work for, and some of these tactics are a little interesting.
Some of them are not that big a deal, but some of them, in my opinion, are a little much they're a little. I don't want to say deceitful, but a little bit to where, if you see it going on, i want you to at least be aware of it, so i'm going to dig into this i'm going to go through a few of these sales tactics. Sales tactics that i've seen other companies use sales tactics that they've talked about and some of these classes that i've taken, and i hope it helps you out the first one is. I actually sat through a marketing class years ago, where they basically talked about the longer you can stay in someone's home, the more likely you are to get their business, and so there are companies that their salesmen will come in your home and they are going to Do their best to stay in your home as long as they can and maybe there's some validity to that if they're in your home for a while you're able to talk to them, get to know them better, and you know give you the warm fuzzies as their Customer and show that they're, actually legit and so on.
I'm not saying that that's necessarily a bad thing, but i think it's interesting for you to know that their goal is to stay in your home for as long as possible, i'm reminded a few years ago. I actually went to a house where the customer had called multiple companies and they didn't intentionally book all the companies at the same time, but it just so happened that i guess this other company was running a little late. I was running a little early as usual and i just happened to get there while they were there. Usually, if that happens, as a professional courtesy, i'll wait uh, i don't want to go in while they're there. I don't want to do our little tap dance. 10. Second, commercial on why they should choose us while they're trying to do theirs, and i think, as a professional courtesy that at times i'll just wait and maybe even go down to the local store and grab a drink or something and come back. That said, after waiting for quite some time, i realized that this company had been in there for a long time.
So i even called the customer and said: hey i'm sitting outside you know. Do you want me to just come in? Do you want me to leave? What do you want me to do here and she said hey this guy is sitting in my house he's actually sitting in the living room on his laptop go ahead and come on in so i did and i came in and looked at everything. I think that my sales tactic, if you will my flashy song and dance when i go in someone's home, is to do my best to not be as flashy or a song and dance. I think some people it rubs them the wrong way.
It actually rubs me. The wrong way, when i pick up on that, you know you know some folks are just sort of like a dirty salesman, type feel and i'm not just somebody in heating and air, i'm just talking about in general, like you just be around certain people, i know That the used car industry gets picked on all the time about that, but maybe for good reason. There are certain folks that have given that industry a bad name right. You know it doesn't mean everyone's bad.
That does that. But anyway, the point is, i try to just you know: do my job and show them why you know we want to earn their business and why they should choose us and so on, but i'm not flashy about it anyway. The point is, i was there the whole time i was there. This guy was there on his laptop and taking up tons of amount of time, and when, when i say tons of time, i waited outside over half hour, i was actually in and out of their home in about 10 or 15 minutes.
Once i looked at everything and just kind of talked to the customer, and by the time i left he was still there. So the point is good or bad. Just want you to know one tactic. Some folks are going to try to stay in your home as long as possible.
The next thing that it seems like every sales class or anything i ever see about selling is companies are taught or salesmen are taught to close the sale right. So you know they're gon na ask for the sale they're going to use different tactics to try to get you to sign the dotted line right and so they're trying to close the sale get your business at times they can be aggressive with that other times. Maybe not so much i've even sat through classes where they talked about. If you were to sell the customer system, while you're sitting in front of them in the home they're more likely to buy this much more business or you're going to get this much more business. During the year percentage or whatever - and i can tell you at griffonair and any of my customers can vouch for this - we we're not set up that way. Uh, we look at systems and we email the customer and let them make an educated decision. I welcome folks to get other quotes uh that way they know when they, you know meet someone else, that they see, that we're legit and that you know they've now had a front row seat to at least two plus companies and who's better, and all that good Stuff who's offering more another tactic that folks will sometimes use is they'll offer what i call useless. Perks such as i know, there's some companies in our area that will offer a tune-up free tune-ups for the first year.
So you know they'll install the system and then within that first year, they'll come back out and do a free tune-up and so on my personal belief again, there's other thoughts and opinions out there. But my personal belief is that's kind of useless. If you have a brand new system in your home, you should not need a tune-up within the first year, so i think it's a goofy, perk or sales tactic that a lot of folks use. We don't do that at griffin, air.
We tell folks that they should join our maintenance program, but we don't offer free perks when it comes to certain things like that. Now we do offer some things. We offer extended, labor warranties. We offer air purification systems with certain systems if they buy.
We offer surge protection with certain systems and so on, so you know it's not necessarily. You know, perks are a bad thing. You know they're offering, above and beyond what you're purchasing, but i do think that certain perks are kind of goofy kind of useless and i'm just letting you know to watch out for that. Another tactic is companies will come in and tell you why their company is so great or why they're selling is so great, but they'll also bash other companies and i'll be honest with you - i've kind of been guilty of that over my career.
If somebody says oh yeah, i'm shopping with this company or that company and i'll say well, look you know they that company sells this brand typically and ours is better because of this or that. So i don't necessarily think it's 100 a bad thing. I'm sure it puts a bad taste in some people's mouths, but i just want you to be aware of it. Uh we try to tread lightly.
With that. I have a pretty good relationship with a lot of our competitors and whether that's good or bad. It doesn't really matter, i'm sure when you have somebody come in and that's you know again that sleazy sort of you know they're just looking to say things to try to tell you why somebody's bad or whatever it's just sometimes just a sales tactic. Another thing that we're taught in some of these classes are to overcome objections is what they'll call it. So, in other words, if you as the homeowner say well, you know i don't really want to purchase that. Maybe it's too much money, maybe it's too much this or that they're taught how to overcome your objection again. This is one of those things when i see people in other industries. Do it.
It irritates me because you know i'm trying to be genuine with people. I i'll even get telemarketers call me and i'll try to be nice. I'll, try to say, look, you know what you're selling i'm sure it's great, but i'm just not really interested you know. Maybe i don't have the money and they'll say well, you know you're gon na buy for the price of a cup of coffee.
I seem to hear that all the time in certain industries for the price of a cup of coffee, you can have this or that, and so would you rather have that coffee or would you rather have what i'm trying to sell you right? You know it's just certain goofy, overcoming of objections again, the way we do it personally at our company is we send them a proposal, we'll outline certain things that make sense, and it's up to you whether or not it makes sense for you. So i'm not trying to overcome anything anything you have to say. If you don't choose us, then you know you probably have a reason for that. Another thing that we have been taught in certain marketing classes and sales classes.
Recently you know when i first started out. I don't think this was a thing, but, as time has gone on, there are certain what they call keywords: certain keywords that we use in our industry and they have done trials with customers to decide what keywords or trigger words, help uh words like they'll say you Know uh, we provide comfort in your home and i think that's fine, i'm just letting you know. As the customer, there are certain keywords that you'll notice that certain companies seem to use a lot and they're not really saying exactly what they're offering they're. Just using keywords.
You know they're, saying: hey we're offering comfort or we're offering uh. You know clean air for your family. You know, they'll drop the family thing in there, uh just certain keywords again that we're taught to you know: hey use this word or that word you. You don't say: hey i'll, give you a new wi-fi, thermostat, we'll say: hey we're going to give you more connectivity or something you know, smart home or whatever.
Again honestly, i don't know that. That's necessarily a bad thing, especially if somebody's trying to explain to you why you should go with them. But again, i just want you to be aware of it another one that i hear a lot and i haven't necessarily been taught this necessarily in a class. But i've seen a lot of folks use it, and i kind of just touched on it with some of those keywords, and that is a lot of folks. Will what i call pull on your heart strings and so they'll do certain things to try to get you to have an emotional response. So they may talk about your kids. You want your kids breathing clean air. Don't you! You know.
I've heard that before or you know they may pull on your heartstrings in another way. I know certain companies will do certain things to try to pull on your heartstrings and try to get you to feel good about them in that way. And again, i'm not saying that's a bad thing. We have certain causes.
We support at griffin air as well certain charitable donations and things like that, certain things that we like to support and take care of, but i think it's interesting how flashy and things like that, where people were again they're just trying to pull on your heart strings. Not necessarily a bad thing if you have something near and dear to your heart and they support that. Obviously, that's a good thing, but i just want you to be aware of it that certain companies just use it as sales tactics, another thing and i'm sure, you've seen this in lots of industries. I know in our particular industry there's been youtube videos.
You should check them out if you haven't seen them where news channels have set up in a home and they've baited in heating and air companies and making sure that they're, honest and things like that and ultimately is there are companies that will just simply lie to You i would recommend getting a second opinion, so if someone comes in and says hey, you know your compressor's bad, it's time to buy a new system here we got this deal going, buy this system from me right now, close that sale right there may not even Be actually anything wrong with that compressor, i hate to say it, but that is true at griffonair we provide free second opinions, we're not the only one i've heard other companies offer that as well, but it's only because there are companies out there they're just trying to Sell you a heating and air system and they'll, lie to you and tell you that it's going to be a significant repair just to try to sell you that the last thing we've seen as far as sales tactics from certain companies is we've seen some weird marketing Tactics that i just think that you should be aware of what do i mean by weird marketing? I just think that some of the tactics that we're seeing from some of the companies these days and i'm not talking about anybody specifically, but you know i've been approached with certain marketing ideas. Have you seen like cookies on the internet so like? If you go to one website and then you go to another website that will translate over so if you, in other words, come to our website and look at a heat pump, but then you go back to say, amazon and all of a sudden. My face pops up on the side of the website. I think some of that stuff's just a little weird. To be honest with you, i also think it's a little weird how certain companies are starting to get in the game and become middlemen. So you know, we've always seen these companies that generate leads for us and basically they'll come and they'll advertise on the internet or certain other places. I've seen tv ads for certain companies and they'll say come to our website and we'll pair you with three heating and air contractors, or things like that, and that's just a little weird to me too, because those companies have no vested interest in and necessarily who you Pick they have no interest in whether or not you necessarily have a good experience or not they're, just basically out there selling leads and trying to become the middle man and we're even seeing some companies like google get into that game and amazon. So, like you know, amazon has their home echo type products, and now google has their home services tab or whatever.
I just think it's a little weird. You know, i think that a few years ago it was kind of cool that you could go on the internet and look up, reviews and see who's, good and bad, and things like that. Another one is yelp has where a company like mine can purchase a package, and my company will pop up. If you go to another company's page and read their reviews, my company will pop up in there things like that.
I just think that's all just kind of weird to be honest with you good or bad. I mean you may not have a problem with it, but i'm just letting you know again. I'm probably stepping on toes i'll, probably have another troll getting upset that i'm telling you this stuff, but i just think that again it's important for you to know that some of the stuff is just sales tactics. It's just them.
Trying to you know, make a living and make money, and some of it's just tactics right. The last thing i'll say is: if you are about to purchase a new heating and air system just understand have some patience. A good decision today will still be a good decision tomorrow, so sleep on it get a few quotes thanks for watching. The last thing i'll say is if you're in the market for a new heating and air system and you're in virginia and the middle peninsula or the northern neck, give griffin air a call.
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This is a great video! Are you in Kanata ?
Changing pricing based on how heavy demand is? Oh, no! Not fundamental economics!
I'm in Residential HVAC sales. A replacement appointment takes at least 1 hour and often it's 2 hours. It takes time to run a static pressure test, measure equipment and ductwork. Run a detailed heat load calculation on the house. Check on electrical and find out how a new system can be ran. (Generally we are adding a Heat Pump or AC to a furnace only, or going ductless). It also takes time to find out what the customer wants and what will work best for them. I'm happy to show them all the options, low end to high end, and everything in-between. This all takes time to do it right.
company is just another word to hide behind dishonesty.
I am in richmond va …some people hate honest hvac guys i have a hard time in the industry because of it but i rather be honest then manipulate people for more money.
Man I really wish you serviced Fairfax County. Demand has exceeded supply and most of the contractors around here are showing it with my effort to get quotes. Literally had one unapologetically blow off an appointment today for a consultation because they were "on another job". Getting 3 quotes is taking weeks and they are all leading with how much costs and lead times have increased (which I don't doubt, but that is not the best way to lead your sales pitch). And I'm asking to quote a whole modulated Furnace, inverter A/C, dehumidifier, Hot Water heater replacement….so a good sized job.
I’m seeing advertising in my area for a new system and all maintenance services for a fixed ongoing monthly fee, maybe in the $150 range. I’m surprised that regulations don’t require disclosure in the ad as to some of the fine print. I don’t know if this is a lease arrangement or purchase with a required minimum number of months, such as 72 or more. Another twist in the ever more competitive selling tactics.
Thanks for your presentation and frankness. I guess more toes got stepped on today but that’s the way it goes.
Hey bud so I had a technician out getting all sorts of codes like blower motor not communicating, ect. I have a daikin gas furnace and inverter system. 2.5 yrs old. So tech came out said it was the water pan sensor and cleaned it up everything is working. However now it seems like furnace don’t ramp all the way up to high on really hot days and wondering, you think he messed with something or just a reset to the unit or whats your thoughts on what happened?? I hate calling these people but only place in town “certified” to work on daikin stuff unfortunately. I have all the paperwork if you’d like model numbers or anything. Hell at this point I’ll send you a check for any advice. Lol
There are a lot variables that go into a quote for me at least including size of equipment, type of equipment, crawl space fee , attic fee, length of line sets, etc. If I gotta crawl it’s obviously going to cost more than if I’m standing upright in the basement.
There's several new a/c companies that only hire "sales techs" and show up at someones home on a service call and quickly just read unit data plates and if they are 10 yrs old or close to it, they don't even touch the equipment, they go to customer to try and sell them a new system and if no sale they will try to collect service/trip fees which does not go over very well. Service area Orleans??
The best way to price HVAC is: closing ratio, price per ticket & ancillary products.