Hey guys welcome back to the channel and in this video we're going to talk a little bit about higher seer inverter systems, because i've done videos on them in the past, and i've had some pushback and guys will say. Well, you know the math doesn't work out and it doesn't make sense for in my area to do an inverter system and pay this much extra. That's fine, but i wanted to do this video because i want you to know if you're a homeowner in the market for a heating and air system that there are now advantages to getting a inverter communicating system than ever before and we're going to go through those Advantages and again we're not just talking about the cost difference. Does it make sense to get a higher seer system and spend the money versus the low single stage system right? That's not the point of this video and whether the math works out.

So, let's go through those and first let's just knock that out of the way real, quick. First, let's talk about the fact that inverter systems do not equate to seer very well, and the reason is when they compare these systems. They're, comparing a lot of times the systems running at a hundred percent capacity. But i'll tell you that inverter systems at times are barely running and drawing very little electricity, meaning your electric bill will love you, okay, so your system, even though it might only be two or three seer higher than a single stage system, just realize there are times When that system is just barely running and drawing very little electricity - and the second thing i wanted to say on that, if we're talking about efficiencies and seer and all this stuff is the fact that now there are systems that are inverter systems on the market, heat Pump systems that can operate at lower ambient temperatures than ever before, and so what do i mean by that? Well years ago, heat pumps? If it got below a certain temperature outside i mean you started getting below 40 35 30 degrees.

You started getting below all of that. It became useless. I mean that's why they would put electric heat strips in there, because the heat pump just couldn't keep up or if you have a dual fuel system, the gas would have to come on, but, as time has gone on with these inverter systems, you've got all these Companies have now come out with systems that can run at much lower ambient temperatures outside some of these systems well below zero degrees. Fahrenheit are still being able to produce heat.

I just wanted to knock those two out because they pertain towards the efficiency that i said, we wouldn't talk about number three. They do provide better comfort, they have less of a dead band and what i mean by that is single stage systems when they operate. They will come on and run at 100 capacity or be off there's no in between unless it's a stage system and there might be one or two stages in between, but again it's either on or off right. There's no there's no in between, like the inverter systems, and what will happen is you set a temperature in your home and we have something called thermostat dead band and what that is is, if you have it set at 72 degrees.

That system will turn on and heat. It will run and run and run around and get you up a half degree higher than what you have it set at, and it may not even show that on the display. Okay, but it's still doing it and then it'll turn off, so your system turns off outside blower, stops running all that good stuff and then it'll start to drop in your house again right and then it'll get a degree and a half below again. You may not see that on the display of the thermostat, but it'll get a degree and a half low and turn back on.

That's called dead band that little area right. There is called dead band with inverter systems. They don't have that communicating inverter systems. What they'll do is they'll figure out so as they're running right, they'll turn on they if they got to ramp up - and you know, cool down the house or heat up the home, they'll turn on and they'll run way up here, just like your single stage system, But then they'll find out they'll kind of they'll change, the speed of the system and the energy consumption until they figure out.

What speed do i need to run at to keep temperature and then it'll just run at that constant temperature, drawing very little electricity and keeping that house super comfortable? Another reason that a lot of folks are selecting inverter systems is they are quieter. So if you have a house that that matters, if the system is near where you spend time, maybe it's near your back deck and you spend time out there or maybe it's near a bedroom window or whatever inverter systems by default, are so much quieter. And you might say well how much quieter you know. Are we talking about a car that has no muffler versus one that has one of those mufflers that just quieted a little bit, but it still sounds like a buzzing bee.

No, no! We're talking about night and day in some cases you got a single stage system and it sounds like a diesel engine out there, and you know it's just running well inverter systems. At times you won't even know if they're running, unless you walk right up to them and look down. Oh yeah, the fan is turning so they're, just a lot more quieter. Another thing to consider is humidity, so inverter systems by default for the most part - and i know there are exceptions to every rule but for the most part, inverter systems are better at removing humidity from the home when running in air conditioning and there's a couple reasons For that, but mostly the main reason is, is because of that whole dead band thing we were talking about.

That system is running constantly at times at a very low electrical consumption and still running and removing humidity in your home and cooling the space. Another one is inverter systems last longer, and i know i'm gon na have pushback on that one. But i'll tell you this and my entire career and inverter systems have now been out for a little while in my entire career i have replaced tons of single stage compressors and two stage compressors. I have only ever replaced two inverter compressors.

Okay, i have a guy. That's working for me. That's been doing this way longer than i have, and i asked him. I said how many of you ever replaced.

He said: none i've never replaced an inverter compressor. In fact, a lot of companies have come out with unit replacement warranties. I know daikon, which is the company that we work with they've, come out with these warranties that if the compressor were to die they'll give you a whole new outdoor unit. You know they don't even want you to replace the compressor.

Here's a whole new outdoor unit because they know that they just last longer the biggest argument i get to that. A lot of times is well the motors don't last longer and this and that i think that's tomato tomato. A lot of single stage systems have variable speed motors anyway and so do inverter systems so that that's not much of an argument to me, but when you're talking about big ticket items, especially being the compressor. In my experience and most of the guys that i know anyone else, i've talked to inverter compressors last longer.

If installed properly, they last way longer. They have less wear and tear there's no big spikes in energy and, in some cases, they're running off of dc power, which receives even less abuse. There's no windings in there that a capacitor has to get that system up and rolling, and all that good stuff. A lot of times, they'll have single stage, ac power and a lot.

Some of these systems are converting that to three-phase dc, and so that's a whole nother animal, but the point being they just last longer they last better. I think the only exception of that rule is probably control boards. So that's why, in a lot of cases, if you're, installing an inverter system or a ductless mini split, please put in surge protection if, if nothing else, but now, they've got other products, they've got phase. Monitors they've got brown app protection.

They've got all these different protections to help protect those boards. So again not an argument, if you say well, you know it doesn't last longer than a single sage system. Again, i know there's exceptions to every rule. I know there's somebody out there, that's going to say well, i've got this single stage system and it's 35 years old and i never get it maintained and it still keeps working.

I got you, but that's to me is just like saying that you have a car that you never change the oil in and it's still running good for you, but you are the minority. I assure you another. One would be a lot of folks do bring up that price difference. The pricing is starting to get better or i'm not saying it's getting better from a standpoint that it's dropping, but the gap between a single stage system and a top of the line.

Inverter communicating system in a lot of cases has gotten smaller, at least in my experience when i've priced it with several of the big brands that gap is smaller by percentage than it used to be so they're becoming a little more affordable than they used to another. One would be a lot of the side discharge units so we're seeing the daikon fit the trane xv 19. A lot of these side discharge, inverter systems, where the fan blows out the front versus the top right instead of a trash, can style unitary system where the fan blows out the top a lot of these side discharge systems require very little clearances around them. In some cases we're talking minimal, i mean we're talking just a few inches four to six inches between the back of that coil and a wall or some other obstruction, they're just requiring a lot less clearance.

If you don't have a lot of real estate, you don't need as much clearance as you used to you. Don't have to cut your bushes back and things like that, and the other cool thing about them is. There is a such thing as wall brackets. I know there are wall brackets for unitary systems or something like that, but i think in general it's a little more common and a little easier to install to be honest with you to have wall brackets for a side discharge unit.

So you can mount that thing. You know up in the air somewhere if you need to, of course, you definitely need to be able to service it, so you know don't be hanging it. I see these hilarious videos online where they've hung it 60 stories up and somebody's got to try to service that thing by sticking their head out a window, but you the fact you can mount on a wall and get it out of. You know the way of something is pretty cool.

Another would be that we're not just talking about higher seer in a lot of cases we're talking about a lot of other higher ratings such as hspf and eer, and things like that, ultimately meaning you're, going to have a better performing system that uses a whole lot. Less utilities, another argument you can make for higher seer systems is in some cases they come with better warranties. So a lot of these single stage systems. The manufacturers know themselves.

That's the thing when i get these guys. That argue with me just go. Look at the warranties: the manufacturers are giving better warranties for these higher seer systems, not because they make that much more off of them or anything like that. They know they're better.

So you got the single stage system and you got this high seer system with two very different warranties. I know with daikon. They come with a 12-year unit replacement warranty for major failures on these higher seer systems and some of the lower end systems. They come with either nothing or in some cases a six year, but i know there's other brands too that come with way better warranties with higher seer systems.

Another argument you can make is there are more options for an inverter system. Things like the vrv life that i did a video on recently, where you can have one outdoor unit, pairing with a gas furnace system and a wall hung mini, split or floor, mount mini, split or whatever, but you have all these different options that you've never had Before with single stage or two-stage systems that communicating inverter systems can offer you, and the last thing that i think is an advantage to buying a more higher seer system, a better system than a single stage, lower end system, and that is their errors and their communications Of problems, and what i mean by that is in a lot of cases, if you have a single stage: 14, seer, 13c or whatever outdoor unit. If there is a problem, that system will, in some cases, continue to run and run and run and run and run until it breaks down even more, and i know they have pressure switches and things like that in place. But it's not the same.

It's not like, if you get some sort of an error you know something's going on and then the thermostat pops up and says error something's going on out here. Let's get somebody to look at this before you have a bigger issue on your hands, so i hope that helps if you are in the market, for a heating and air system and you're in griffin, airs coverage area in the northern neck or middle peninsula of virginia. Give us a call we'd love to earn your business. We have the best warranty in the area and we'll give you a free estimate, but if you're in the market for a heating and air system and you're, not in gryffindor's coverage area, before you spend thousands check out my website, newhvacguide.com it'll guide you through the process Helping you avoid a lot of the problems scams all kinds of things out there i put so much information on there.

It's as if i wrote a book, but instead of a book that will collect us and become outdated. This website can be added to and changed. I've got a whole page called no no's. I've got a whole page for good and bad heating and air brands, and i just think before you spend thousands check out that website.

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