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We have a service call in a delfield one door reach in with a cold rail. This is a self-contained unit. The complaint is that the top section is not working bottom, they say is okay, but it's nice and cold on top and bottom at the pro Mac. I just walked in someone has installed a sight glass on this.
This usually doesn't come with one, but it also looks like this might be an aftermarket condensing unit, because this doesn't look factory so we'll check it out. I'm feeling the need to go ahead and put service gauges on this guy, because the cyclops that they did install is currently flashing. So that's not a good sign. We will see so the cyclist isn't flashing after all in the bottom to the bottom is actually satisfied at the moment.
So I have just the top running run in a clear sight: glass with the top runs by itself when the bottom runs by itself or when both of them are running earlier. It must have been coming down my pressures book adhesive, so I'm just monitoring the box and the top is actually nice and cold, but they were complaining about the top, but I don't like how the bottom is getting to 40 to 43 degrees. That is a problem. Okay, so this is where things get a little confusing, and I'm gon na explain to you what I'm seeing here so first off the service request that they sent me was an automated service request that they typed in on a computer, and it said that the unit Had no power, but it was plugged in so when I got here you know had power and it was cold, but the manager said the top section wasn't working the top sections full.
He said nothing about the bottom. In fact I said the bottom was working. Fine. Now I asked him to clarify the hold: no power top, not working.
You know things that I've heard and he doesn't know so. This is things that we run into. I mean I don't doubt that the unit has problems. I just don't want to ignore the original problem, so that's what I'm trying to get to the bottom of it, but so far I'm not seeing anything wrong with the top section.
It's nice and frosty cold. I adjusted it a little bit colder, but we're frosting up like we should be everything's. Good refrigerant pressures are great sight, glasses, clear, but I do see a problem with the bottom, the temperature controllers not cutting in at the right temperature and it's getting too warm in the. So it's just the some of the things you run into working on these boxes.
You really got to kind of investigate because I don't want to just say it has a lot of bad temp in full and then find out that it's tripping the breaker. You know but everything's fine right now and the manager doesn't know anything else. That's on duty. Okay, so I'm gon na go ahead and attempt to replace this temperature controller for the bottom, because it's cutting in at like 43 degrees every single time - and this is a constant cut in control, so we'll see what we can show you on this okay.
So this is the control back behind this cover. We have these made when we change these coils, because these controls constantly go bad from the water dripping on them, so we just put like a little cover over them. You can see the sensible two embedded in that coil and it's a constant cut in control, so it should always be turning on right, around 39 40 degrees, and it's not obviously - and I don't see any problems of flooding back or starving. So it doesn't look like it's gon na, be a txb problem. Okay, so we're running. Now after I changed the temperature controller, it took about three cycles: the first cycle, the temperature controller, still turned on at 42. The second title cycle turned on at 41 and the third cycle right now it just turned on at 40, so sometimes it takes a minute for the controls to kind of get acclimated to the box, but so now the bottom section is turning on at 40. You look at the bottom, that's the maximum temperature and it's turning off at 32.
So it's ranging 32 to 40. So it's important to remember the colder. I set it the lower the minimum temperatures gon na get but the 40 degrees the maximum temperature is never going to change because it's a constant cutting controller. It's constantly gon na cut in at the same coil temperature every single time.
So it looks like we just had a bad temperature controller. I can't explain why they complained about the top. I did adjust the the control for the top a little bit colder, but it's working fine at this time and other than that. That's pretty much! It guys.
We're running good okay, so we had a service call in at delfield reach and that wasn't working. It was kind of confusing service call, because the service take has said one thing: the manager told me another thing and then I found something completely different. Sometimes that happens. You just need to be able to investigate - and you know, talk to the management and think things through, so I ended up finding that the unit had a bad temperature controller.
I replaced the temperature controller and everything was working properly other than that. So the unit was good to go and I just kind of gave myself a disclaimer when I talked to the manager and told him that I never found the original complaint, I never found anything wrong that could have caused the original complaint of no power. So I just told him to keep an eye on it, and you know he was happy with that. He was just as confused as I was because this the manager that had placed the service call wasn't there and wasn't answering his phone, but other than that.
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Great as always!!!
I find sometimes when they say the top is not cold enough it's because they don't put lids on the food containers and the ambient kitchen temperature warms the contents in the open trays
As usual bud great videos thanks for the info learning a lot here on the refrigeration side of it all. Please keep this up
i just gotta thank this dude lol whip out youtube out in the feild lol
Thank for sharing I worked in the resturant .I never get see the inside the equment.
Was the manager that was not there a millennial
Good job😲😲
I'm in school right now for HVAC-R and my instructor referred all my classmates to watch your videos…. you're great at what you do, it's a joy watching you go to work. I'm learning alot by watching your videos, commercial is the field of my choice. hopefully I'll be as consistent as you are one day. keep up the awesome work Service area Barrhaven??
These top rails. What do they look like in sectional drawings. Is it just tubing soldered to the stainless with a TXV…? Draw me a drawing of what these evaporator look like. Are you in Orleans ?
What control is for top? Service area Nepean??
Great video
Brother I'm learning so much from you. These units threw me off a couple times. Is the bottom temp controller directly tied to a LLSV for the bottom evap? What is controlling the rail section? A pressuretrol connected to another LLSV?
Thanks Bud.
Firstly, there's a thumbs down? Hmm… Interesting! Second, I can't stand that, when you show up and nobody knows when or why the call was made. Sometimes it's a setup for failure. But what you showed here is taking the time, getting your numbers, investigating the system to eliminate a cost free callback. So, once again, awesome display of work 👍 It is nice sometimes when you get to charge a minimum hour when you show up and no service has been approved! I don't know if you do that, but my old boss was adamant that we make our time valuable to these restaurants. Overtime, it made sure most future calls were accurate and articulate. They don't want to pay an hour for a lack of communication. Good work, man
Good vid.
Is the top unit a separate txv? The only Delfield prep table we have is a dinosaur and just has the one coil on the bottom and prep pans are air cooled.
You like that Fluke? For the same or less $ I'm looking at the Cooper unit that uses tranducers instead of thermocouplers. Working with only the Testo Smart Probes now, but either need to get a dedicated tablet just for the probes or a stand alone tool that can stay at the unit while I step away to answer the phone.
Thanks again for the videos and responses. Wish I were 20 years younger and working for you.
Nice video
Great explanation…the best.
I'm a new tech. Thank you and I subscribed with alerts. You rock
Your videos are great example of an efficient tech. Thank you. Are you in Ottawa ?
Nice job brother 👍🏼🤙🏼✌
jesus christ another nasty one!
Could the previous manager have found the box in a defrost cycle making them think it had no power? Or do these prep tables even have a defrost cycle? Great video!
This is just what I need. Thanks again man. I have to get to your patreon page one of these days.
did you use the oem control or ranco a12-701 cold control ?
Good stuff again man. Gotta love the calls where no one knows what’s going one with the unit . One manger calls it in but doesn’t relay the message to the next manager on shift . Had one of them this afternoon actually. Hahah. 👍
Love your shit man!!! Keep it coming.
👍👍👍👍👍👍great video
You're on your way on becoming the next YouTube superstar! Your videos are awesome!
Great video, learn a lot watching these about service work and how to not get tunnel vision Service area Kanata??
i like the fluke 52 II but its expensive as hell when i win the lottery ill buy one lol , great video man
Nice find!! I remembered they always find a excuse to get you in
Another thumbs up 👍 👍👍👍
Great video, I see a lot of Delfield units. Evaporators are a pain to change out on those when you have to pull the whole rack to get to coil. I hate servicing these right on the line at peak times, especially under a flat top.
I had managers admit to just putting anything in the system when they put in the call through service channel just to get someone out. So you never know what your really getting into.
Solenoid valve not closing all the way, hence cold coil? Why top and bottom at different temperature?
Great video Are you in Barrhaven ?