Thank you thank you Foreign foreign thank you thank you hey guys we are live coming to you answering any heating and air questions that you have. uh if you have any questions that I don't know the answer to which is not impossible Um, we sometimes have some other Pros that are joining us and we will try to get the answer to that question I Thought I would start tonight's show out with a story um where is this at Nashville I guess um I don't know if to Tulahoma I don't know if that's the name of the the nursing home or if maybe that's an area near Nashville if you guys are any of you are from Nashville know this area let me know but this story's coming from a uh from a news Source in Nashville and it says uh Talluma I'm probably not probably not uh pronouncing that Tullahoma maybe maybe Tullahoma Nursing home evacuated after an HVAC fire flames were visible when fire Crews arrived on the scene and bear with me guys. I'm gonna make one quick change to my audio here. You guys have told me in the past that I sound better when I make this one change and so hopefully you can hear me a little better now.

So yeah, it's Tullahoma Nursing home evacuated after an HVAC fire the Flames were visible when fire Crews arrived on the scene uh Tullahoma Tennessee So I guess that's a town uh, right there near Nashville Possibly no one was injured after an HVAC fire at a Tullahoma nursing home on Friday night. Thank God No one was injured when Tullahoma Uh Fire Department Crews arrived at the Life Care Center of Tullahoma I'm going to stop saying that word now because I'm sure I'm saying it wrong Just after 9 15 PM Flames were visible coming from an HVAC unit on the roof Crews Evacuated most of the building because of the fire. The Tullahoma fire Department, with assistance from the Manchester fire department was able to put out the put the fire out. A temporary triage area was set up due to the various medical needs of the evacuated patients.

Officials said a handful of rooms affected by smoking water. Most of the damage came from water used to extinguish the fire. Once areas were cleared and air quality verified, patients and staff were placed back in the facility. There were no injuries to Patient staff or emergency responders.

At least nine EMS Ambulances from six surrounding counties responded to the scene to assist the evacuation and possible transport of patients. What's crazy about this is this gross looking uh picture to the right here. let me see if I can zoom in to get that picture out of here. We are committed to the safety and well-being of our resident said Executive Director of Life Care Center Alex Bhutad.

We are grateful for the compassion and professionalism displayed by our staff as they swiftly jumped into action and took skillful steps to protect our residents and ensure everyone stayed calm and comfortable throughout the event. Bhutan Also expressed the sinner's gratitude for the quick response from the local fire Personnel EMS and Hospital Associates and thanked them for their bravery. I Hate stories like this because they never tell us more and they never tell us why the fire started. Why? You know what's what's the deal here? You know? Um, you know, heating and air systems don't just catch on fire.

Usually there's a problem with how it was installed. There's a problem with how it was maintained. There's a problem with you know something is wrong and so that's that's one of the things I Hate about stories like this. You know they don't tell us the full story.

They don't tell us why things caught on fire. It drives me nuts. So anyway, welcome to the show. Gary Ed Larry Does a window mini split have lower electric than a similar sized window? AC unit.

We'll get back to that in just a moment. Hey to Carl Mark Bob Gill Tech Junkie Ed Tullahoma is a town got it? Uh AC System service with Kevin South Florida in the house? hey hey to you Kevin Brian Good to see you buddy Emery and I think that's high to everyone So good to see you everybody. Getting back to Larry's question here: does a window mini split have lower Electric than a similar sized window AC unit So uh I'm not sure if I know exactly what you're talking about unless you're talking about these newer inverter Type window units They're a little more pricey, but they have the ability to ramp up and down like a standard inverter system. I Don't know if they're quite as efficient, quite as quiet quite as um, you know performance, you know? Honestly I haven't laid hands on one yet I've just heard about them and um, so I think ultimately the the answer your question is any sort of mini split or inverter type system is going to be a little more efficient in general.

Typically if they operate like a standard inverter system and there will be times when it's at a hundred percent capacity meaning everything is running that maybe it will draw just as much energy as a standard single stage type system where it just kicks on and off, or maybe has some multiple stages there. If it's an inverter style system in general, it should be a little more efficient I would say um, but maybe if you give me a little more context, maybe we can dive into that a little further. Emery Who always comes out with some great questions says how is the size of ductwork determined via manual d Uh, it's there's a I Use a uh, it's called a ductulator and so you put in what you want your static pressure should you know what it should be for the either the supplier return and then you go from that. you know it tells you the sizes of ducks that will meet what you're trying to accomplish.

um Brian says I'm going to be careful about how I text I do that every night every show I'm very careful about the things that I say and do on here. So I hear you on that? Uh Tech junkie says I worked it at a nurse nursing home and train left the heaters running in the cooling tower and it got cold. that night the cooling tower was empty. So yeah.

wow. I tell you nursing homes and and you know of rehab facilities and just places like that where they're really counting on folks. um sometimes I I feel like those places maybe should even meet like maybe even higher standards or higher codes um, of care you know, to the heating and air systems. maybe even so so far as to say like Bridges have checklists here in America right? So there are you know I here I am acting like I know anything about bridges? uh I'm just regurgitating things that I've heard and I know like here in the state of Virginia there is somebody or something, some sort of committee that will come out and they'll you know inspect the bridge periodically annually maybe and it needs to, you know, check the boxes if you will.

Needs to meet certain standards. Um to you know, continue to operate. You know they. They have even said this is not safe.

You cannot drive on this bridge now. Um, or they'll say this bridge. it's time to replace it or make a repair or whatever. And sometimes I think that heating and air should almost have something like that in place as well.

Especially if you're going to have a facility where folks are counting on you. You know so much. Uh, maybe floating on my one will. Hey Ryan Compressors don't die.

They are murdered. Very true in most cases. very true. Tech Junkie.

You mean a home window unit that is an inverter? Yes, window units. Uh sorry guys. I'm just reading through I'm trying to get caught up here. He says a hat technically says I I had one I Noticed no difference having a one ton versus my three ton ducted attic unit.

LOL Um, so that's interesting. Um, you're welcome Larry Horse inverters are awesome horses. uh I don't know if he wants me to tell y'all who he is I'll let I'll let him tell me in this chat if he's okay with me telling everyone here who he is but good to see you on our show horse. Uh, horse is a good friend of mine I'll I'll just say that and then we'll see if he lets me say anything further than that Brian says I use a NCI cheat sheet for duct I use the the one of those old train duckulators with the the round dial Tech Junkie says I Also have my 608 Universal certification now.

Congrats Pal! Uh Dave what up? Josh sorry I'm late to your live good to see you Dave if you are still on here uh I was emailing with Adrian and we all need to do something. we we he was actually talking about maybe us doing a live show on his channel. so get with him. um because I actually some of the things some of the ideas we were uh throwing back and forth I thought were pretty good.

Ryan says I never saw anything about the enhanced Daikin Fit Do you know if Daikin ever released any press documentation on it? so I know I do know that they released some some things to their local local Distributors I had that verified by our local sales rep today actually and I will tell you that I found out that they're no longer going to be calling it or at least for now they're not calling it that verbage right now Ryan Um so I don't know what that means. Uh, the the email I got said that you know they're going to be adding an E to the Uh model number. but as far as the verbiage or the marketing, um, they are not calling it The Enhanced Fit right now. Um, and so what that means for the future? I don't know I don't know if you know they're going to maybe call it something else or maybe there's more to it.

Maybe something else is coming out with it and maybe that's why they've changed that. But I I Do know that they as far as I know at this very moment, they're not going to be using that verbage Emery says do you still see pre-trained acquisition GE units in your area uh I have not seen one in a long time but I did see one uh, we replaced one um when I first started Griffin air and uh which was kind of cool so but I don't see many Brian says Bridges impact your life more than me I live near the water he's very correct. um Tom good to see you from Illinois Jason Ty Branneman just shared a chart about compressors. only two percent are True Manufacturer related problems Um yeah I tell you.

um I I Think that a big majority of of just issues in general have to do with um, you know the installation of heating and air systems and things like that I Think what a lot of guys like me, a lot of guys in our position might struggle with sometimes is we'll we'll hear manufacturers point to Stats like that to me, they're made up stats uh Jason um and the reason I say that is I have had manufacturers one in particular say to me, well your guys, your installers are the problem and I'll say to them look, we installed this brand over here and we have no issues. We install them all the time and then it seems like every now and then we'll slip one of yours in there and we'll do an install and there's a freaking issue. And so I I am one of the Believers that not all uh manufacturers are created equal I think they all have their quirks, but I think there are some people that you know believe that some certain brands uh, can do no wrong and they're drinking the Kool-Aid and um I disagree with them on some of those Brands We'll just say that horses yes, I can. So horse is my local sales rep that I was just alluding to.

um, he puts up with a lot of crap from me. uh I'm always calling him about every little thing and he takes good care of us so he's never allowed to quit uh, where he's working Brian says Ty is pretty smart I've heard a lot of good things. In fact Ty is going to be I Don't know if it's tonight or um or if it's next week but there is a another YouTube channel called reliable uh HVAC and he is gonna have Ty as a guest here soon. So a little plug there I get nothing out of plugging Adrian's Channel but uh I will tell you that that channel is mostly heating and air guys talking about very uh, techy, uh high-end things.

You know they'll in fact, it's sometimes above my pay grade. They'll sometimes be talking about supermarket, uh, you know, refrigeration and things like that. So I don't know that you would find it very entertaining. but um Ty is supposed to be a guest on that show at some point Emery says oh sorry Ryan I would love to see a conversation with you and Dave I see in the comments similar to the conversation you had with the British guy, you both have different perspectives Dave being DIY Dave and I have had conversations not not on a YouTube channel and I um I don't really have that big of a perspective.

uh and and I'll tell you why in just a second from Dave Um I just don't make the exact type of videos that Dave does. Um, because to be honest with you liability. So some of the things that Dave is sharing um, he is even careful I think or at least he should be. Um, and so I I think that he's coming from a good place and a lot of times he's saying to homeowners look, it's your system.

It's if you feel like you know what you're doing and you feel that you can do what I'm about to show you how to do, then you know I'm going to show you how to do it is is it kind of I think I think is his perspective for the most part. Um, but my whole thing with a lot of these guys that do have a problem and I've told Dave this. You know there are guys heating and air guys and maybe some of you are in this chat right now that seem to have a problem with some of his stuff. but you don't have a problem with some of these other heating and air guys that do YouTube videos for other YouTube guys.

So they'll make a video on how to clean a system for example and you're okay with that because the the video is supposed to be for other Heating and Air Guys and then Dave makes the same video how to clean a heating and air system and he gets all this hate And my perspective on that is you think homeowners are not watching this guy's videos? You know it's I think it's a little a little hypocritical. uh for somebody to to not be a fan of that so you know I think that uh I do think for me again, there's some liability there. There are certain things that I I just I'll I will never do a video on. um, but you know that doesn't mean somebody else won't do it or Dave won't do it and you guys can watch that video and learn how to do it.

you know I uh You know. one example might be if if I were to do a video on how to replace a capacitor and that capacitor that you're replacing happens to be in a one of these newer system that has DC voltage in it and you were to get shocked and hurt and or die I would feel pretty bad about that, you know? So that's just one example of what I'm talking about. So anyway, I usually most of my stuff is for homeowners trying to help them. uh, avoid some of the problems dealing with heating and air guys.

Uh, help them understand what some of the verbiages in our our industry when they're buying a heating and air system and things like that. So I actually think if you're a fan of Dave's stuff and my stuff, they can kind of pair together a little bit. they can you know work one and one to you know, one and one together. whatever the verbiage is I'm looking there Emery says fun Fact: spawn fin coils were a GE thing before Trane purchased their HVAC products in the 80s.

That's very correct and a fact I think American Standard was the first one to purchase GE e uh if I remember correctly reading the whole timeline of things, I could be wrong but I think America's standard acquired Ge's uh, heating and air side of things before train acquired the because. then American Standards split and then there was a plumbing side and a heating and air side. But yeah, that's definitely very true Tech Junkie says installation was a bigger impact on efficiency than the equipment Ryan says you both are Pros but appear to be pushing completely different agendas with you advocating to get a pro with him being you can do it yourself and save not untrue that is. you know I wouldn't say I'm pushing an agenda, but I would say that um, he and I do have maybe different philosophies with some of our videos.

That's that's safe to say. Um Brian says all brands have problems that I I would agree with that. They all have their pros and cons. AC systems with Kevin says we've had four Goodman package units.

compressors die within six months of install. so I call BS on Tech errors. Uh, Brian says HVAC 2.0 is also a little above average. Homeowners are lazy.

very few know they can be cleaned I have never seen one actually cleaned in my life except for the two condensers I've cleaned I tell you I Um, just read a uh statistic the other day and you know how statistics are. 60 of them are made up. but uh, I just read a statistic the other day that um, it said that only 30 percent of homeowners across America have their systems maintained uh, at least annually and so I thought that was a crazy statistic and uh, you know I don't know if I have any data to show what our percentages are, but we do have customers that will not maintain their system at all and then they wonder why they have issues which is always kind of crazy to me. Jim I'm not sure I've seen your name before, so welcome to the show! Is it hard to replace fan limiter, switch on furnace? uh old Rheem uh I wouldn't say it's hard.

no, um, maybe Dave if you watch Dave's Channel he can show you how Uh Kevin says I know when customers YouTube repairs. When we do it, they kind of understand what we are doing. Yeah I tell you. The other thing on my perspective on this is I won't work behind anyone else and and that's not just homeowners.

I've had a few customers have a hard time understanding that I won't work behind anyone else. To me, there's too much liability there as well. And so and what I mean by liability is. Let's just say a homeowner has another heating and air company get in there and then you know we're in there working there in their work.

You know what? how whatever the timeline is there chronologic chronologically and then something's wrong and then that homeowner wants us to cover it under warranty and things like that. It's just not something that I will do. just full transparency I just won't do it if I have a homeowner. If I have a customer that either they are in there making repairs or trying to fix things or they have a family member.

uh, if they have another heating and air company, if they have a handyman, if they have anybody other than someone from my company and they're working I usually won't work behind them and I try to be nice about it I just say look, it's just not a fit I'm not your guy. Um so and I know a lot of folks have a hard time understanding that and some of you might but I uh I I'm just letting you know some guys feel the same way Brian says all I know is there are 10 screws to get the Square Train G top off uh t03 knee I'm not sure I've seen your name on here so welcome the show! Currently got a project going for a Daikin five-ton heat pump HVAC being installed in the Attic we have. We have a two-story house and they're suggesting to put thermostat upstairs. Not sure if one thoughts so uh I guess knee I'll just call you knee Uh my question would be is is the system going to do both floors and the answer is yes I'm not sure it matters where the thermostat is located if you only have one.

Um, and if you to drive this a little further you should check out my video where I go through zoning issues and how heat rises and homes and you can size the duct work properly for the upstairs to get enough cool air dumping up there. But then all of a sudden winter comes a roll comes around and now you've got this oversized ductwork dumping too much heat upstairs when the heat is still Rising So check that out! I Would uh, definitely recommend a zoning it if you're only going to have um one system for the entire two-story house and that would to answer your question. that would mean you would have a thermostat on both floors or at least each Zone depending on how many zones you have. So Tech Junkie says that seems crazy high I Honestly don't think that would be high for my area, but um I bet there's are areas of the country that would be high.

So yeah, it might be maybe I'm not sure how they came up with that figure. Again, a lot of stats are just made up, but in my area, 30 might be a little low to be honest. Um, so Chloe Welcome to the show I Don't think I've seen your name before Bosch Three Ton 18 Seer 10 HS PF variable package unit. Can the tonnage be switched from three to two? Uh, I think yes, Um, at least the split systems.

that's how it is. It's just a simple dip switch and you tell it what you want the capacity to be set at Jan says welcome to show Jan My friend had an AC repair and installer put a three ton heat and air unit outside replacing one that went down when the next door neighbor's house burned down. She had a two and a half ton working. Slow.

Okay, Emery says what are the most common reasons for premature compressor failures? Uh, poor maintenance, poor installation of the heating and air system? Uh, poor air flow would be one. um and dirty. Uh, Power might be another one. Like brownouts and uh, surges? um uh.

refrigerant? uh, not being charged correctly? possibly. um and you guys might think I'm nuts on that but I was just talking to somebody the other day and they didn't know what subcool was and they had been doing their they work for a competing company I was just floored. Um, so let's see. Brian says covidcon kind of did that maintenance man can get me sick.

Um Tech junkie throwing out a few more dirty coils, filters, liquid slugging? Yep, um Ed says I Watched a ton of channels like Hva School and Ac Service tech and a few others to learn and learn the stuff to get my EPA certification. Nice. Yeah, I'll tell you and that's why I struggle with some of the people that we sometimes hire. The education's out there if you want it.

Um, you know in fact, I would I would I Don't even think this is a stretch. I've learned more from either working in the field or watching YouTube videos. Um, and I don't watch a lot of Craig or Brian stuff or at least when I first started out I didn't um but gray Furnace man I used to watch a ton of his stuff. uh I used to watch him all the time.

um and there's a few others. a couple guys that I don't think they even make videos anymore, but there was a guy named Dr Z I'd always watch his stuff I I don't know I always thought he was entertaining. uh Tech Junkie says Jan that unit will never work correctly. her electric bill is going to be go up for sure.

Unit will probably die within five years. John says Josh will new dike and enhance fit have preheat capability I.E turn on I have not I don't know any specs on the new fit coming out Um so I don't know any anything about it I don't even know what the Seer rating on it's going to be CO2 rating Um so I uh I'm not sure on that. um Tech Junkie says what blah blah blah he's talking to a couple you guys Ryan says what do you mean working behind anyone else so you won't take on customers with existing systems. Or are you saying once you start with the customer, they can't have another contractor besides you? Uh, this the latter.

So um, in other words, if I'll give you a good example I had a customer that had another company come in and do a repair and then they still wanted us to do the maintenance to the system and I had to just tell them. yeah, it's just not something we do. What if they have an issue with that system, Who they gonna call? Are they calling us? Are they calling them? You know? I I don't know, it's I just don't I don't mess with it. You know they're either you know they're either.

um, what's the word? Uh, I'm drawing a blank on what the word is, but they're either fully using us or they're not. You know there's no in between for us. Uh, Brian says I'm plus and minus on following someone I'm up for the challenge. I'm not up to sending a technician for stupid.

It's not even about Stu It's not about the challenge or any of that. It's about liability. For me, it's about having an upset customer when something's wrong. You know? So they call us because something's wrong and then I find out their brother-in-law or their handyman or somebody was in there working.

It's just not something that I do. Uh, maybe again, there's guys out there that'll do whatever. But uh, those same guys might not warranty things like we do. You know? So I don't know.

There's different thought thought processes on that. Uh Kevin says working behind someone else is not good. Last hand on the system owns the problem. We walk.

yeah, we just don't touch it. Like we find out that they're using someone else. We just kindly let them know this is this. You know it's just not something we do.

Um Brian says it's kind of automatic Bosch runs off temperature set what you want Alvaro says is the difference between single stage or two-stage greater than two-stage to variable speed? Now let me think, let me wrap my brain around this question: Is the difference between single stage to two stage greater? No, no it is not greater. I think there's a greater efficiency going from any stages to a true communicating variable speed system inverter system. and I've made videos on. you know all the advantages there are to those systems.

Um, but yeah, in fact, I have a video coming up where we're going to dive into comparing systems and see your ratings, it all the other all the other ins and outs and we're going to talk a little bit about that how there's You know if you're comparing a 16 Seer you know, um, single stage to a 16 Seer two stage versus or if you're say comparing uh, like an 18 Seer staged system to an 18 Seer inverter system. It's not fair. You know it's not Apples to Apples because of the capabilities of those systems um horse. uh yeah I I got your text horse if you're still here on the show.

um I that I I'm if I get in trouble for calling it, calling the fit at these different verbiages. You know that kind of protects me a little bit. So let's see. Jan says the guy has checked it out several times but doesn't know what the problem is.

Is it that he had put in the three ton instead of the two and a half she had? Um, let me go back to your original comment because I didn't know if there was a question there. My friend had an AC repair and installer put a three ton heating there outside replacing one that went down next to her burned down. She'd had a two and a half ton working slow. Um I would need to know more to answer those questions.

Jan and I'll tell you why. Um, there are indoor units that can be paired with multiple Um systems so you can there are there is a such thing as air handlers that are that are you know, can you can work with multiple capacity outdoor units? Um, so is it possible? Yes, it's possible, but um, you know it. Does that mean that's the 100 percent? The reason they're having an issue? May maybe not. You know it just kind of depends.

John says do you feel UV lights bathing the AC coil raise static much I Wouldn't think it would mess with the static at all or at least very little I Don't think I can't imagine why UV light would it would mess with the static much at all? Uh, Brian says measure Quick is my friend. Yes, Measure Quick is a definitely a good tool to have for sure. Brian says Sierra's block Comfort is key Chloe says 970 square foot home with six Supply six inch duct and one return at 14 by 24. Do you think I need to have two tonnage for my size home or three ton oversized? three ton would be very oversized for my area, but it kind of depends on um you would need a proper heat load calculation done.

Um I Can tell you if you have a mobile home that a lot of those with the high static mobile home furnaces they will oversize the capacity for a number of reasons. So um I would uh I would recommend having a proper heat load calculation especially if it's a normal home. Um, that does not have a mobile home furnace and have a proper heat load calculation done? Um, and don't you know, have it done right? you know? So that way you know for sure. but three three ton would be a lot to push, especially the air flow.

You know, pushing three tons. Uh what? 1200 Cfms through six six inch Supply Ducks that ain't happening? Not not. Uh, not without having issues. Um Brian says they didn't like them contract them in Alex Good to see you I don't know that I've seen your name on our show, so welcome to the show! I Do understand that inverter systems come with a built-in over voltage protector I Know it sounds Overkill But would it be worth it to install a cool guard to voltage monitoring system? Um, let's see.

I'm not familiar with that product. so I'm looking it up. is that a phase monitor? It looks like it's a well, it says a voltage monitor If it's this, if it does the same thing that a phase monitor does, which it might be, it says voltage monitoring and surge protection. um then those are a good idea, especially if it's an inverter system.

We've had inverter systems that had uh, like board failures and the manuf one one time in particular I Can think of we had a board fail and two weeks later the same board failed on this uh, multi-zone mini split and the manufacturer told us hey, we're going to give you this part again. It is under warranty, but you need to get a phase monitor installed on that system. So um Brown says you do live deep Boom. All right.

I'm gonna take a break from the comments and we are going to have a quick little segment. Uh, for those of you that have never joined us before, I'll normally do a breakaway segment. Sometimes we'll share. um, you know, fake inventions.

Sometimes uh, we'll ask the audience a question and sometimes we've done some other things. But tonight we are going to do our goofy inventions and this is actually a serious invention more than some of the others that I've done. Because I think that what I'm about to go over is something that we will possibly see in the future. And so my question is if you were to have a system, a heating and air system that sensed you in the room and so we already have ductless units that have those eyes that will split the air if it sees you in the room.

so it's not shooting air directly on you. But I don't know that we've seen too many systems that almost like proximity lighting. you know. So like if you were to walk from one room to the other, this room were to turn the lights off, this room would to turn the lights on.

Some of these Smart Homes have capabilities like that. and of course proximity lighting's been around for years, but just kind of having that smart home that senses Where You Are in the home as you move throughout the home. lights turn on and off based on your location in the home and I wonder if heating and air systems uh will have that sort of capability as well and so it will sense where you and maybe other members of your home are located in the home. I Don't think it would be out of the realm of possibility that this that that's something that will be very, uh, possible and become the norm at some point for some homes.

Now you know, if you have an older home that you know you don't even have central air in there, well then you know this might be a little bit of a stretch. but some of these homes we're seeing built, you know? Uh We've even seen Elon Musk get into this building, homes game and have these houses you can have made or you know, these small homes or whatever. Um, but just having these Smart Homes uh is this something that you know we could see it? I Think it would even go one step further than zoning where the system would actually sense. Oh, you're not in this area of the house anymore.

We're not going to heat and cool that space as well. We're going to make the range of temperature bigger and then now that you're in this space, we're going to make the temperature range a lot smaller, make it more comfortable in that room. and then I could also see a system like that with especially with today's Technologies having capabilities of learning your habits. so on.

You know every Monday you go to work so we're going to operate this way. but every Sunday you like to sit down in this room and watch football, we're going to operate that way. and so anyway, what are your thoughts? Is that something you would even be interested in? Um I Do think that there's a little bit of a you know Big Brother type element to something like that? You know. but I'd be curious what your thoughts are, Is that something that you would be interested in and and go from there.

So um and I also posted a question when we started tonight's show. I'll go back to that original question and that was are you interested in having a system that an HVAC company can connect to That they can connect to that thermostat, make changes, know if there's a problem, have an error, and even maybe even repair or make changes to that system remotely. Is that something that you would be interested in? I Can tell you that that is not an invention, It's already out, and a lot of companies are offering it already. Um, some of them offer it in-house some of them are often offering a third party and um, yeah.

TT says if they sell a system and don't check your Ducks it's a scam. Um I don't know if it's a scam, but they're definitely lazy. Um, and they didn't do you a very good service Chloe says 20 year old train, 14 train, 14 ton, two ton Jim Welcome to the show Says: how difficult would it be for a homeowner to install geothermal system? If they can operate the equipment and what would they save in calls for excavation? well I think you would say thousands. That's the answer to that question.

In fact. A lot of heating and air guys don't even do the excavation part themselves. at least not here in Virginia a lot of them will have almost like a well drilling company or someone like that bury the loops and then um and then take the loops that are inside the house and install the heating and air system. So um but to answer your question I think you would save thousands, thousands of dollars.

Uh yeah, horse talking about this word that I don't know if I can continue to say I don't want to get in trouble but I don't think I can if they if they were calling it you know what? what? Daikin was calling it there for a little bit Kevin says we just started installing degree Flex So far they are doing great and comfort and efficiently. Uh, keep us updated on that Kevin if you change your mind or if you still like them um I I know some guys that like them and and I know some guys that hate them. uh I have honestly not laid hands on one. I was invited to a class and I didn't go.

so John says can you have too much returned capacity why don't we see more returns in every bedroom I think in residential for the most part the consensus is uh, you can't have too much return Ducks um meaning the size you can't it can't be too large. um and then I think to answer your question, why don't we see more returns in every single bedroom? Um, in certain parts of the country, they don't do it that way. And honestly I think if you lay out the home at least most homes correctly and there's airflow underneath the doors and things like that, that you don't necessarily need to have a return in every single room, especially if they're small rooms. But um But to answer your question, why don't they do it like I live in a house? Honestly, that they should have a return in the master bedroom and they don't? Uh, we every night when we go to bed, we leave our door open for that one reason.

Um, because there's no return on that end of the house and it should be. And so um I think to answer your question is probably money. They probably put the least amount of everything they can when they build homes. You know, the least amount of returns, the least amount of whatever, um, and the smallest system they can to heat and cool the home.

and uh, you know I I Think because of that a lot of times. Uh, systems are wrong, right from the get-go because they're being cheaply installed. You know a lot of the inspectors all they care about these days. They'll do duck blast tests, they'll do blower door tests and things like that, and I actually I'll take that back they are getting better About in some some areas.

uh, requesting or mandating that a proper heat load calculation is performed. But aside from that, there's no way for the inspector to know if certain things were done correctly. Size correctly, installed correctly? Um, without you know seeing just general problems you know and it's usually the homeowner in the end that you know pays the price. So I've actually made this recommendation to people before is if you are building a home then you tell that Builder you're going to pick the heating and air company and the system that's installed and um, and you know and then you just won't pay.

they they won't be able to do any markup on that. You know they they need to give you their price to build that home without the heating and air and then you. You might pay a little more, but you're you're gonna, you know. Go around them and pick out your own Heating and Air company and and make sure it's done right and so on.

Um, does that mean you're going to avoid all issues? No, unfortunately it doesn't But it does avoid the Builder from just picking the cheapest guy you know. Alvaro Alvaro says I'm getting a system installed and was quoted for carrier and day and night. They told me it's the same machine but different sticker. Is this true? it's the same company but it would not be the same machine.

Uh, day and night Is an ICP product which is owned by Carrier. But as I understand it for the longest time, I Know this was true. Now maybe it's changed, Maybe it's changed. but I don't think it has and that is, even though carrier owns ICP there is a difference in the product.

So Carrier and Bryant are you know, basically the same equipment, different stickers and then all of the ICP stuff is the same as one another and different stickers? different? You know? branding? But aside from that, you know you can actually look at the units until they're not the same. I mean I'll show you an example right here. so share this tab. So if we go Carrier heat pump and we just click images here on Google and we come down.

Here are what carrier heat pumps look like. So you got the cheaper models that they don't protect the coils very well. They got that chicken wire is what I call it and then they've got these over here. You know where they're They have their higher end models that you know they're supposed to be like their Infinity Series It's their more premium products and then they put the you know what, you know what Goodman and Daikin and all these other brands put on their base models.

They put these louvered units, you know. So um, I probably shouldn't have said that, but it is one thing. I'm not a fan of carriers lower end units because that chicken wire. So then we click over here to ICP and they do have that chicken wire look right there.

But if you come over here and look at their higher end model, see how much different that looks. I Mean it's almost got a corner with holes in it. Almost like a York unit. but then it has like the chicken wire on the front.

Um, so you know they just don't. They if anything, they don't look the same. Now they may say it's the same company, same engineering and all of that, fine. but it's not the same unit.

They don't even look the same. You know, at least they haven't for the longest time. Maybe that's changed Maybe I'm Wrong so wouldn't be the first time. Uh, let's see.

Kevin says Alvaro So many variable to answer that, but basically no. Tech Junkie says LMAO 1200 Cfms through six ducks. That would be a side I See it all the time pal? Um, and they wonder why their fan motor keeps failing all the time, right? Ryan says have you heard any Hard dates on the A2l Central Air Systems being available? Will it be the end of the year or summer of 2024? What is your best guess or estimate on time frame of availability? Um I Have asked these questions to a few different folks and the answer I'm getting is basically the time frame you're pointing out I think you're I think it's possible that part of the so there's two things here. there's the deadline coming we all know about I did a video on it.

We know this deadline of January 1st 2025 is coming and 410A equipment can't be made after that, right? So we've got that coming. But then we've got this other side of the coin where some of these companies are already start. Like for example: Daikin already put out an R32 mini split, but some states haven't even approved it yet. they have not approved A2l refrigerants.

so you know even if they did have all this equipment out and you you live in a state that they haven't approved them yet I live in one I at least I haven't heard anything that they've approved them yet. so even if that equipment was out, I still couldn't get it unless I wanted to illegally smuggle it into my state which I'm not willing to do. Um so I think that's part of it. so we got two sides there.

but I think to answer your question: I Think you are going to see some stuff start to maybe be rolled out in the summer, but realistically, they're gonna probably wait till the last minute they're gonna. They're gonna push for probably the fall is when you're gonna start seeing stuff really start get switched over. they they're gonna do kind of what they just did with the CR2 uh stuff coming out where they you know said oh, January 1st is the date and so you see you know about October November the companies uh Distributors just stop uh selling the units and then you're probably gonna even see people stock up on the units. That's what they did with the Cr1 the Legacy stuff and then and then you'll see that transition there as January 1st gets closer.

So honestly I think that's what you're gonna see. Um, but at this point we're still waiting for all the states to approve them and maybe once that happens, all the states approve the A200 refrigerants. Maybe they will roll them out a little quicker. You know, if especially R32 is in tons of countries, it's very proven.

I I Don't see I Don't see why Daikin would hold back. You know I could see why these other companies going with these other refrigerants that aren't proven or tested. Why they might wait a little longer and continue to test and so on. But the R32 that Daikin Amana and Goodman are coming out with, you know if all the states approve them, maybe they'll just go ahead and start.

You know, rolling them out you know I don't know. but I think your time frame is is about right? Tech junkie says I have two and a half tons on 1100 square feet non-registers It's way too much. Um, it's by State North Carolina already has approved and installed R32 systems I don't know without central air units. Yeah I know North Carolina is one of them um and I know I think Mikey pipes I Don't know if any of you watch his YouTube stuff but he kind of rubbed it in my face.

He got to install one of those R32 atmospheres I don't think he meant to rub it in my face but I was like oh, you've installed one before me I was the Daikin guy I was the guy that you know was saying all that but anyway Mikey had a R32 atmosphere a video and so he so that tells me that wherever he's at New Jersey or whatever state he's in, um, they've obviously approved them. Um so anyway yep Chloe says thanks, you're welcome Ryan says thank you oh Tech Junkie thank you So I can't say you're welcome to that one. Tuck Junkie says that occupation sensor idea is okay, but what about thermodynamics of mass Humidity? Time of occupation um I think humidity is is definitely a A plays a role in all of this, right? You know if you've got this house that keeps Heating and Cooling and you know, changing based on where you're located in it, but you know, maybe they'll um maybe they'll have all that figured out I don't know I mean they they there's people way smarter than me that are engineering all this stuff so you know Brian says the intelligent eyes part of the Dyke and duckless Tech junkie says wait, they already have something like that I stay in Hilton's and they have occupation sensors. That's where I got the idea is is Those sensors knowing if you're in the room or not the PTAC will cool but won't come down to set point unless you are in the room Shayna Welcome to the store! the welcome to the show.

Hopefully I'm saying your name correctly were you were talking about my problem and it was harmonics and you were talking about how they run something up inside the walls and if the lines get crossed, you have harmonics? Um, I'm not sure if there's a question there. uh, but I do want to take one quick break. We're getting towards the end of our show here and uh, jump over here. I Had a couple we this this week.

We had several emails come in on our YouTube videos. We'll usually pop up a little email that people can send uh emails to. We don't monitor it that closely because honestly we get a bunch of junk in there, but we had a bunch of legit emails and some of them came from you guys I know one came from I don't know I don't want to speculate but I know we've had a few of them, but here's one: um can I show this without showing his email I think I can guy named Adam emailed us and he said so. here's the deal.

I've had a bunch of HVAC texts check out my leaky ductwork in the basement ceiling, but the dust and poor air circulation issues just won't budge. I Heard about the whole Arrow seal thing and adding insulation to the attic and garage, but they're quoting me a hefty eight thousand dollars for it I'm at my Wit's End To be honest, you seem like they that you've got a good handle on this stuff and I'd love to hear your thoughts. Got any advice or ideas that could help me out here? Is there something else I should consider before diving into an expensive solution they are suggesting? um I'm trying to understand what the actual problem is. So if you if your ductwork is leaky, um, that's repairable.

So if the duct work is not falling apart, you can repair that you know. So depending on what the reason it's leaky, um, you know if if you can get to the joints, you can actually repair that. um I think aeroseal, it might be an idea. There's other uh products out there as well that can also seal those duct works and insulate them better.

Um, aside from aeroseal. Um, there's those. There's the the foam, the spray foam stuff too. and um, so you know eight thousand dollars is a little I agree.

it's pretty hefty and you might you know have somebody actually narrow down where the actual leaks are and see if they're actually repairable. You might be able to save quite a bit of money there. Um, and then there was another email bear with me that I wanted to share on our show I get so much junk mail in this in this email though, here it is: I think yeah, here we go. Gary sent us an email Gary has sent us a few things over the years.

Let me see, make sure it's something I can actually answer six foot closer to the hallway Gary I'm gonna have to dive into your email a little better. uh, before I just go into it on the show. so forgive me for that. and I thought there was one other one that we were going to show on our show.

Here we go and let me see if I can zoom in and show you all this email without sharing his email. Okay, guy named Dave emailed us and I don't know how to show this without. uh, showing his email and all that. So I don't know if Dave's on here with us, but he says how can I stop condensate from dripping from the AC coil after the fan is off.

The coil is clean, filters are clean, and have good airflow. Is there a way to extend fan run time after the heat pump shuts off? Yes there is. There's literally thermostats that you can turn on the extended fan run time. Uh, the thermostat that I know just off the top of my head that has it is the Honeywell 8000 because we've turned it on for dual fuel systems multiple times.

Um, but I'm sure it's not the only one. I'm sure there's several out there that have extended fan run time. The other thing I would look at Dave is I would have your Ac refrigerant checked and so if you've got this and I don't know the configuration of your system or anything else. but if you've got I've seen a coils on systems that will literally drip past the primary drain pan on the side so it's supposed to condensate and then drain down into that pan and it'll literally drip past it if the refrigerant is low or if the airflow.

there's an issue with the airflow and so I would um, have that checked as well. Oh, let's see. Ryan says I think you can do this if this than that IFTTT sensors connect to the HVAC thermostat. I've heard of that as well I have never done it though.

I Had a customer years ago that wanted us to do something like that. Uh, because of his uh, fire. he he had a fireplace in there and he wanted to set it up that if one thermostat got higher then it you know, but that's something you see more in commercial. I Feel like John says he's talking to Tech junkie Kevin says not a fan set and forget the thermostat yeah Michael says my mom welcome show Michael My mom system got a problem with the motor blower I got an estimate 14.50 for parts and labor I have my cousin look at Job Wednesday He fixed my five ton americ standard for five hundred dollars.

Found Nice. um I'm not sure if there was a question there. Michael So that's why I'm not saying I'm just saying nice. Um, let's see Ryan says I won't mind having capability of remote monitoring and fixing things but not changing my temperatures as that could affect my utility bill.

Yeah, very true. Um and in fact some of these systems that are set up to where it will remotely connect to the power company, that is some of the capability that they're being able to do Phillip says I wonder what happened to me Medea Evox when I was looking at replacing my HVAC I was bombarded with Medea Evox ads I'm not familiar with I know what Medea is but I We don't have a good um supplier here so let's see Evox. let you guys see what I'm looking at. So I'm on their website.

uh, that's kind of. That's one of those window units right there. Looks like a side discharge outdoor unit. I wonder if the Evox is sort of like um, you know these non-communicating inverter systems I I Don't know I'm just speculating based on what I'm seeing so far on this website.

Next Generation Cold Climate Heat pump? Yeah, I Don't know? Uh, we don't see there's no good suppliers from a D in our area I Don't know if there's any good suppliers from Medea period here in the U.S But um I uh I Don't know pal? Um I I Wouldn't even know where to get parts for one if if I found one in our Market Emery says why. When the compressor fires and it doesn't it is assumed to be capacitor failure. Uh, well, it's not always capacitor, just depends on what's the problem. You know capacitor is meant to get that system on and running.

You know it absorbs that initial Spike and resistance that that you know that the the system has. You know higher ohms as that system turns on. and of course that's why the amps increase and so the you know the capacitor uh, helps that system get up and rolling. Um, but it doesn't always mean that the capacitor has failed.

There are other reasons as well. uh, such as um, a problem with the compressor itself. you know, Um, but you know there's not a lot there either. You know if if it's receiving power, uh, you know, maybe that's part of it.

Is it receiving power? You know if the you know the board or contactor that's sending voltage to it if there's an issue with that. But if if all that's working correctly and it sends power to it, The capacitor is really the only other component there Gary says Mitsubishi Aussie scans the room for occupants. If there is no one there, it dials back to conserve. Michael says leak and five ton American Standard plus change two and a half ton Plus put in 10 pounds of R22 which the air conditioning guy was going to charge 270 a pound.

Uh yeah, 10 pounds of R22 right now I don't know how long ago that was, but R22 I'll tell you this: I can't get it. None of my suppliers even sell it now. Um, so it's it's basically Priceless At this point, you know guys are going to charge whatever they want to charge at this point because you know you can't get it like you could anymore. Emery says why when the compressor fires and the fan doesn't it is.

Oh, that's the same question. John says what's the highest tonnage square foot you've ever installed 1500 question mark highest tonnage I'm not sure quite what you're asking if you're saying what's that the highest tonnage system I've ever installed? Well, that would be seven and a half because I don't do commercial and if you're asking what's the largest square foot house I've ever worked in or installed a heating and air system I don't remember how many exact square feet it was, but I think it was over ten thousand. Uh, there was a house that we put a bunch of mini splits in years ago and it had the uh, the walls that um they're basically metal studs and then they fill in the cavities and with this foam stuff and um, that house That was a really big house you know for my little company. uh it was one of those houses where you would walk in the front door and it had the um I guess you would call it a bird Fountain but it was like a statue with all these water.

you know, water falling all around. uh Justin You know you'd walk in the front door and there's this gigantic room with you know, 30 foot ceilings and the statue in the middle of the space. It's just crazy. You know some of the stuff.

Uh Kevin says Michael time to change it out Ryan says what two? We're gonna be wrapping up here shortly guys, so make sure you get your questions in uh in the meantime if you guys, uh if you've never joined us for a show or if you have before, one of the things we do is we shout out good companies Across the Nation if you know a good Heating and Air company please share their name and where they are located and let's show those guys some love Ryan says what to what do you think about Returns on the ceiling and air vents in the ceiling. wouldn't the cool air get sucked back in the return and they cool the room slower? Why not install them at different heights? Um, we talked about this I believe last week and I think the gist is um for the most part you know it just depends on how high the ceilings are. but if you have a normal home with eight foot ceilings, I'm not saying there wouldn't be any difference. You're going to have parts of the home that maybe the floors are warmer.

if you lay down on the floor, you can tell the difference. but I would say in most homes if it's just a normal house, it's insulated well, it's built well, and it's got eight foot ceilings. I don't even think you'd notice that I said that I think it was last week. it was either last week or the week before and um, I'm sure there's heating and air guys that would argue with me, but I I genuinely don't even think you would notice if I if I were had two houses both bill the same and I did one with the return in the ceiling and the vents in the floor and then I went over here and did the return in the ceiling and the vents in the ceiling and both houses only have eight foot ceilings and and I blindfolded you and walked you into both I don't think you would notice I don't think I I don't think you would know I think you can maybe make a guess but I don't think you would even know uh Michael says my cousin charged me 500 and I bought Michael's telling us about all his heat and air system um repairs that he's made in the past Michael Let me know if you have a question pal.

Uh Brian says different warranties I have one three years old compressor failed carrier goo came out. that's a good word. it was goo goo came out of there Jim says on a budget we need to replace furnace and air 1200 square foot ranch with partial basement crawl space Ohio area what size AC how many BTUs and efficiency Jim have a proper heat load calculation done um. There's many variables other than just square footage that would play a role on what size heating and air system you should have.

Um, if you size it too big, you could have issues. If you size it too small, you would obviously have issues. Arch says howdy I'm late to the party. good to see you Arch Um Jim says no and no um John says does anyone have any experience with arrow Seal? um I Saw a company here in Virginia that wasn't doing it but I have not laid hands on any homes that had it done.

Um I think it's a cool concept, but obviously one of you guys were talking about what some of the companies charge to do it. So yeah, for those of you that don't know what Arrow seal is erosio. It's basically where they can you see this picture over here where they got these tubes running. It's a product where they can seal the um, the duct work.

Oh I see envelope, ceiling and duct ceiling. I Was hoping to find a picture here but you see their picture here where they've got the arrows coming out the side of the duct and I thought Normally they have like a little um, almost like a a little graphic that kind of shows how the product works. Maybe it's in here. they're gonna install their machine, says it, finds and plugs all the leaks.

takes a couple hours I think that will show what it what it kind of does. Oh they slipped a picture of my combs in there I Love my Chrome show by the way. Little little fun fact about me This Old House is showing it. yeah but they're still not showing the graphics.

So anyway, what a waste of time that was. Um, we're going to wrap up here shortly guys. so definitely get your questions and art says hey, Carl how's it going? Um, are these new refrigerants as dangerous? Flam away some tout? No. I Have a friend of mine that lives in Europe that uh, currently works on systems with R32 and uh, he doesn't even believe it is flammable.

He thinks that you know I can't remember his whole Spiel but he was basically talking about how in Japan they don't say they say it's not flammable. So I think it's sort of like diesel fuel if you pour gasoline on the ground and Light It On Fire It's Gonna ignite and you know have this big, almost like explosion of of ignition. Uh, but if you throw diesel on the ground and try to light it, uh, it won't light, it's it's not flammable and that way it has to be under pressure and so I'll kind of wonder if that's how these refrigerants are. They're mildly flammable and conditions have to be perfect for it to ignite.

So maybe that's what it is. You know, maybe it's got to be under pressure kind of thing. which you know in heating and air systems it will be. Um R32 has already been phased out technically.

Plan is to have R32 phased out by 2030. Boo! Just scrolling through Y'all's comments here. sorry if I miss anybody but I'm just trying to get caught up here. Um I don't know what Brian was talking about but he said just let it drip Emery says wait is the dike and fit a mini split.

It is not a mini split. It's a conventional split system. but the outdoor unit is a side discharge so it looks. The outdoor unit kind of looks like a mini split, but it's uh, but it's not.

It pairs with a furnace or a an air handler just like a conventional split system. Art says Medea packaging as I saw on the web look like Oxbox package units. Yeah Xbox is made by Medea Um, even though it's a it's a brand owned by a train, it's it's manufactured by Medea at least that's what I've been told. Boom boom sorry I'm just scrolling through comments trying to get caught up.

Okay got a guy named Mike here. Welcome to the show! Mike Air handler unit has no insulation inside and it is horizontal in a hot Florida Garage Not good. It just started to condensate on the bottom of the unit and drip can insulation be added? What could cause this? Yes, it can be added. Uh, maybe somebody removed it at some point.

Maybe it was separating from the wall and and you know they, um just you know it. Maybe it was kind of getting up against something. maybe against the fan motor and they just removed it which is not great but um you can get somebody to install something called duct board and they can literally put it in there and um, re-insulate um big Ace says doesn't make you prove it blah blah okay I think we are finally catching up here. Um okay all right guys.

Well we're going to wrap up here in just a moment. Again, if you know any good heating and air companies, please give them a shout out wherever they are in the country I Like to end the show that way that way if somebody sees your comment and they live near you, they uh, can find a good Heating and Air company as well. It's your way of showing love to someone who has taken care of you. Um, so we are going to wrap up in just a moment.

um I do have another video coming out from the Daikin trip coming out here very soon I'm working on it as we speak I worked on it a lot today and um, once it is done I have to send it to them and make sure I'm not showing anything I'm not supposed to and um or saying anything I'm not supposed to and then once they are okay with it, we'll be launching that so that should be that should be coming out I would say hopefully by the end of this week. Uh, worst case scenario: beginning of next. and um, so that's one thing I've got coming out that's going to be more focused on the dike and fit line itself and some of the people that we met that work on that. Um, and so I had a really good time.

Uh, talking to some of those folks and going back through some of this footage was quite, uh, fun as well. You know, just kind of reliving the experience a little bit and and getting to hear some of their stories. Some of these folks, you know, they're real people, you know and and they have real things that they're happy about and all that sort of stuff which is obvious, but it's just I don't know. it just kind of gave me the warm fuzzies.

you know, going through some of this footage and and uh, hearing what some of them were saying and and so on. It was just a really good time. and so I'm gonna be sending that video. There's a couple.

There's a couple moments in there that I I wonder if they're gonna ask me to remove it? Uh, because you know I was kind of playing with a couple of the guys. you know, just that's my personality and you know I don't know. life is short, you know, right? So anyway, I um I don't know if my chat has, uh, stopped working on this on this. so let me go over here because it seems like my Chad has stopped working and I need to find out.

Yeah, I might be a little behind you guys I I've had this issue before and I don't know. Uh, but yeah my chat stopped working a while ago. it says so and I see where some of you guys actually shouted out some good companies which is great. So I'm Gonna Roll through these last