All right. so we are here. live on the shore floor of Ahr in Chicago and uh, I'm here at the Opton booth, Kimora's Opon and I'm here with Dr Chuck and with Nick Strickland uh from Kimor and we just want to kind of give you a quick overview. Obviously, Atls are an absolutely massive topic right now.

Um, so I Guess we're going to start with you Nick just kind of walking through. You know what do you have here? What do you presenting with this? ABC's yeah, thanks. Thanks for the opportunity to chat. We appreciate it.

Uh, so you you know ABC stands for R454 A R454b and R454 C Okay, so very easy, easy to understand. Yeah, um, we did that that way because R454b, which has been now selected by 80% of the US manufacturers for Oems as our tip of the spear and R 454a has 6% higher capacity than R404a has 3% better Energy Efficiency with a whopping 94% lower gwp. We love that product and our California product r454 C less than 150 gwp And for systems with a 200 lb charge size, we believe is an excellent option for where you have to have a lower gwp below 150. So that's why we're here for sure.

So C is easy to remember because C is for California California California Is that it is that the only Market that we're probably going to see this? No, it's a little tongue and cheek. Uh, way to remember it because California is less than 150. Those applications where you need less than 150 gwp for 200 lb larger charge sizes for example. Got it? Got it Great.

So Opon people who aren't familiar with the Opon brand, what is that? How does that relate to? Like some of the previous branding that we've seen? Sure. Well, everyone is probably familiar with Uh Freon which is our original brand when we were part of Dupon back in the 1930s, so everything was kind of free on up until uh, the transition. Now where we're going to Op on. There were some other brands people may remember Soua Ion, but Opton is our Hfob based technology platform.

Everything going forward, including the A2l and some A1 products are going to be under the Opon brand. Yeah, so a lot of people when they said Freon they really meant R22 Like that's what a lot of people in the residential world, but it was always a broader family of products, right? Yeah, and I You know, I did a little video and it's like it's a brand. It's not a molecule, right? Freon is it covers things. But a lot of people use Freon generically for any refrigerant.

any fluorocarbon, and specifically a lot of people think Freon equals R22 but it so we can remember it by the r number. Or we can do Xl40 XL 41 Xl20. That's also, that's the specific refrigerant. That's yeah, that's our brand.

Opon Xl40 Xl20. The XL are the lower flammability ones. We have XP 40 which is a 404 replacement which is nonflammable. Good for retrofits.

I Would also point out the the A and C kind of line up if you look at Gwps and where the regulations are going. there's kind of a bar around 750, 700, one around 300, one around 150. So the the B obviously is a Gwp: less than 700 for air conditioning, less than 300 for the A and then less than 150. The kind of the joke about California being the first with the 150 limit and 44.

So we did a recent live stream where we talked about a lot of the new regulations that are coming out and specifically relating to that that date that kind of drop down drop dead 2025 date and now it looks like the EPA has changed that a little bit. Do you? Um, as far as the residential? Market Yeah. Nick You want to take that? There's a little bit little bit of a change in the rule. Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah.

I mean there was a shift in timing, but it doesn't change our shift in strategy, right? Okay, good. very very concise I Like it I Like it I Think you know there's that that sell through period I Think was a little concerned with you know, wholesale ERS and and contractors and inventories and all that. So I think that will ease some of that. Yeah, but it's all still happening in the same way.

It's basically just extended a year, right? It's still happening We're ready. You know? we've been going kind of with with projects. kind of in a small way. Getting everyone ready.

training is a huge thing as you're well aware we've been doing training. John Gillis our our great, uh, corporate trainer is. he is booked up solid. He is crisscrossing the country.

Try Hug! It's huge. There's so much so much going on. This may not be a specific question for you guys, but it's one that I've been getting a lot. Recently last couple weeks I've been seeing inundated with this particular question for people who want to know about the not not just the equipment side because we know mitigation what's happening on that front, but about questions relating to line sets because this is commonly coming up like lower flammability limit and Lin sets that are run through closets and existing retrofit applications.

That kind of thing. Where do people go to like, really figure out where the interpretations lie for this sort of thing, What would you suggest? Um, yeah, that's a good question question. I Mean there. There's a lot going on in the kind of the codes and standards world, but that kind of language language.

uh, real practical sense. I Think places like Ahri kind of look at it from here's from the chemical side, here's from the contractor side, the building owner side. and try and get some good guidelines put together. They've done it for like storage and transportation.

So I think as these new questions come up around specifics Lin Sets Uh, they'll be a good place. Yeah I'm doing the Uh Leaders panel tomorrow and that was one of the ones I was going to drop on Uh HRI and see what they had to say. And it isn't just like I think in in almost every case it's not a concern, but you do run into those those one-offs you know that you don't want to. Again, don't want to hit that lower flammability limit.

That's the thing we want to stay. Stay above. So can I take a minute just to highlight our 454a? Yeah, let's do it. Let's do it.

Features for sure for sure. Absolutely So for commercial refrigeration, we're very excited about 454a and the reason we're excited about it again Because it has 6% higher capacity in 404a. So if you have a 404a evaporator 404a condenser, you can could put 454a in that system right? You can have a matched pair in there for some of the competing products. Some of the competing A2l you have to have a condensing unit that's 50% upsized versus the 404a unit.

so you have to have a mismatched pair. So again, I Want to highlight the value of using a 454a? It's just a great product in terms of overall energy, performance, capacity, and Gwp? Yeah, for sure. Yeah, that's huge. That's huge.

Any other comments from you on that? No, we're busy. it's exciting time. Uh, you know another transition but we're out there and ready so call us if you have any questions. Yeah, you're going to need a nap when it's all done.

I Think probably it's been a it's been a challenging uh season trying to get everybody prepared. but um yeah. so for people who want to find out more about all the products that you have coming out and everything that's changing, what are some of the best places they should go? uh option.com is kind of the place I would direct everyone to and from there you can get into our products. You can contact our technical people.

if it's more business uh purchasing type stuff you can you navigate your we so op on.com is the place to start. Awesome! Chuck Nick Thank you so much I appreciate it. Thanks Brian Was a pleasure. Thanks for watching.

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