Hey guys, i i'm gon na try to do this a little different today and uh. Hopefully this all works out. I uh yesterday did a youtube, live and went pretty. Well, so we're going to do another one today and in this one i had done a video where we had talked about.

We were going to critique some of the heating and air systems. If you guys want to send me pictures and this uh, i had a couple guys kind of take a little offense to it. One guy was like well what makes you think you're the end all and, and i don't think i am i more than anything if you're a homeowner. I want you to kind of see what we're talking about or looking for when a uh, you know one guy says if a heating and air guy says well.

This is a good install versus this one, where it's a bad, install, um and uh. What what we're kind of looking for what we're talking about so uh bear with me i'm trying to get my screen shared here and hopefully uh this uh works. Well, here, okay, we are in my you, my gmail account. This is the account that we set up for this, and hopefully you can see me - i'm still here, i'm down here uh but anyway, so i wanted to uh go through some of these uh one thing that was pretty cool this this first email that i actually Got uh from mark miguel meal? Sorry, if i'm not saying that right, i don't know if mark's on here with us or not, but he sent me a couple pictures that the company he actually works for uh did and so we're going to go through this on.

Just a few things that jumped out at me again, this is not about me trying to bash other companies or anything like that. Um one thing would be it's sort of like if uh you know, if you i don't know, if you're cleaning a room right. So if one guy does cleans a room and another guy cleans another room well, we could both probably go in the other room and find something wrong right, whereas this uh you know, whoever did this install, could probably go behind me on one of my installs and Find something that they would have done better uh, so he sent me the before and after pictures, which i i appreciate so i can actually see this is the old system here. The old outdoor unit - and here is the old indoor unit.

So it looks like it's in the homeowner's using this as a gem, and so you can kind of see some dumbbells here and it looks like it was sitting on a wooden plenum uh, but check out this old air handler it's. It definitely was seeing better days before they got it, replaced so um. Sorry, i'm trying to scroll up and not zoom in and it's there we go uh. So a couple of things that i that jumped out at me with the new install that i wanted to go through one thing was: i noticed that they kept the wooden plenum.

Now they did a new one and the new one looks pretty good um, but i uh was surprised that they stayed with that. You know if they, if they removed the old one um, you know they could have went with a a metal plenum, a duct plenum and they chose not to which is fine. But i just one thing that i noticed there um. I will say that a lot of this does it look.

It does look neat. They did a good job with the line sets here and the drain. I also see that they insulated the drain um. So this this uh garage looking, you know it looks like a garage that they've turned into a gym.

So there's a garage door over here and maybe the room itself is not heated and cooled which by code is fine by what, by the way um. I'm not sure an inspector would have loved seeing this wooden plenum being that it's not airtight um. You know you could. Even you could argue that it is airtight, but being that it's not you know if it was metal, we would have put mastic on it and made sure it was good and clear um.

You know being that it's in the garage it could have failed inspection by the way. I just wanted to note that um, i'm surprised the original one. If this is the original one that was here when they built the house, i'm surprised that it passed. You know because of the same reason but uh, and so you know the whole thinking behind that is.

If, if it is a garage by code, you would have to have a separate heating and air system, because there is a chance that carbon monoxide could come into your home um when you have, you know it connected to the garage as well so uh. The good thing is they did not, they don't have any. You know supply vents coming off of the supply duct, but uh being that you know, that's it's possible that this is not completely airtight here being a wooden plenum again, they they might argue differently, and who knows i mean, maybe maybe this is just a wooden. Maybe this isn't a wooden plenum.

Maybe this is just a wooden box that they built around the metal plenum um, which i highly doubt based on what i'm seeing, but it's possible that you know that that's what they did, that this is just a wooden box built around the metal plenum. That is, that is completely airtight, so just something to point out there uh, but, like i say this is all looks really neat. You know they did. They did a good job for the most part.

You know you could argue they could have done better whatever, but for the most part uh it looks. Neat um they've got their sticker here for the uv light. So that's good. At least i believe, that's what that is and uh, and all that now, let's talk about the outdoor unit, because that there are a few things that jumped out at me with this, i apparently, i guess, there's some states where this is normal, with this metal channel, That they that they use, which is fine uh, but in virginia i don't see a lot of that.

So we would have used something called slim duct, which is a vinyl cover and it just to me it looks nicer um, but you know it is what it is at this point, and you know they reused that you know. So if you go back here to the old system, they there was one there. You know so they either reuse that or it actually looks like they did replace that as well. So this was removed because it's painted here and then the new one that's installed is the galvanized metal.

But that said uh i personally in virginia. I would have preferred to see a vinyl. You know slim duct more. You know to me that would have been more cosmetically pleasing, i'm probably splitting hairs um, but one thing that jumps out about me about this jumps out about me about this.

That jumps out at me about this is the fact that this unit is sitting in front of this window. I'm not in love with that. Now again, you could argue my guys will do that to me sometimes i'll, be like hey. Don't do that they'll be like well, that's how the old one was and i'll say i don't care how the old one was.

The old one just like this uh this one in the garage was not shouldn't, have passcode to start with and now you're doing something again that i would not have done so. I don't know what this window is. I don't know if this is uh. You know a bedroom or a living room, a kitchen whatever it is uh.

I typically would not want to see the unit right in front of a unit like i mean right in front of a window like that uh uh. Sorry, my guys are texting me, but there's also it appears there is a dryer vent right here, which is not ideal um. I would not want to see the outdoor unit. You know near the dryer vent, you know, lint will fly out of that and it could get attached to this.

Coil makes it get dirtier a lot quicker, and i would have liked to seen that you know if possible, if they could have moved that um. The other thing is, you know, here's the electric, here's, the uh, you know where the line sets were i this picture doesn't tell me what's on. You know to the right here. So if we're standing right in front of this unit what's to the right over here um, but you know i probably would have moved it further down this house to the right get.

I would have tried to get away from this dryer vent and i would have you know if, even if i had to run um a uh, you know a new electrical connection or whatever. I would have done that, but other than that you know the the whoever these installers are. You know i can nitpick here and there i probably would have strapped the uh seal tight here to the uh to the uh line sets a little bit, but you know they've got good bends and you know it does look like whoever did this was taking a Moment to try to make things look nice. So that's uh! That's good! Uh! If you have any questions or concerns about some of these questions, uh, i'm trying to keep an eye on the chat over here so feel free to go ahead and chat.

Um on this. Hopefully i can see it all messes you will send will appear publicly yep, so hopefully uh. This is the first time i've used stream yard to do something like this. So hopefully i'll see your chats if you were to post something uh.

So let's go to the next one again, i'm not here to try to pick on other companies or other technicians. We could both do an install and they could find something wrong with mine, and i you know i could find something wrong with theirs. But my goal is to help folks uh homeowners see what we're seeing when we say somebody could have done a better job with this install. Oh one other thing: i want to point out and we're going to talk more about uh this in a moment, but just real, quick uh.

If you see here's the old heat pump system with this one, we were just looking at here's a bush right up. Next to it - and that's sometimes something to consider as well, it doesn't look like it's super close to the old one here um and it does look like they cut it back in with the new one, which is great. A lot of folks aren't even mindful of that, so these guys were mindful of that, but it's something you definitely want to tell the homeowner hey. You need to keep this bush cut back.

You know at least 12 to 18 inches because if it gets next to that unit - and, let's just say for example, it was you know close if it was impeding air on one side of this unit, and this unit has four sides. Then you've just now taken a let's say: it's a four ton outdoor unit and you made it a three ton unit. It can't have enough air. The air can't pass through one side of that coil, if that makes sense, so um so uh anyway.

Uh moving on to this next one, so this fella sent me pictures of his old unit, which is fine uh, mr gilmore doug gilmore uh, so i'm gon na ignore some of the stuff, but he's he's obviously in a state where they use the same metal. Um channel, you know again, i don't see that a lot in virginia um, but you know i am you know it looks like he's doing a good job, keeping his shrubbery cut back. But you know: here's here's a few that are up against it and you might say: well it's just a little bit there um the epa came out with a uh with an article years ago or some findings where they basically said for every quarter, inch of dust That collects on your unit, your utility bill goes up 10 a year and you might say: well you know, that's just you know 10 bucks right, but you know i. I filter that through the same lens, so when i see shrubbery starting to get against that unit and that airs you know it's having to work harder to perform uh the same then um.

You know it's, it's not ideal. Uh. That said uh. I am not in love with you know again.

This is an older system. You know this thing's been here a while um. He did send me a the name plate. So uh looks like this is a 2005 carrier and um.

So that said, you know this has been here a while, but even with that said, i would if i was doing a tune up to this system. I would clean up some of this stuff. I would definitely want to see this low voltage wire here strapped a little better and i would probably replace this uh well. No.

I know i would uh now that i'm zooming in this arma flex on this suction line needs to be replaced. So it looks dry. Rotted - and you know every little bit helps you know, get that replaced. Get that thing insulated well and uh.

If nothing else, it'll look better, but you know it could help with some of your efficiencies and stuff. You know, especially on a really hot day. I don't know what state this is in, but on a super hot day, but you know this unit. Uh looks like it's uh.

You know he's gotten his money's worth out of this unit. The top here is nice and rusty and uh. You know, but i'm no psychic, he could get another five years out of this. I don't know you know, that's the the hope and dream right um.

So this guy sent me a pictures of his ducted mitsubishi inverter unit. There's not a lot. I can see in this uh in this picture here, but you know: we've got the uh mitsubishi outdoor unit and they matched it with an air handler. So that's something that a lot of folks don't know about mitsubishi uh, but they've been doing for a few years.

Now, quite a few years that you can and you can get a system with a you know, an outdoor unit. That's a side. Discharge still blows out the front, and this all looks nice and clean again. I can't see the connections uh, but then, when you come in here to the indoor unit, they've got the you know just a regular upflow, looking air handler and uh one thing: that's unique about uh, mitsubishi and trains.

You know now that they've they've, all partnered together, is uh you'll, see at times where the blower here is on the return side of the coil. So the coils in this part right here and the blowers down here and that's actually unique. It makes it a positive pressure unit, whereas most other brands, the blower, would be in this area and the coil would be on the return side of the blower, so just something just one little tidbit for you there. That said, just looking at this picture uh, it's again it's this is a clean, looking install um.

Whoever did this. You know you could tell they were you know, making good bends uh with their joints uh by code, this wiring right here uh would have failed. You know they want to see that strapped through the wall there you know whenever you have a romex, they want to see it strapped within so many inches of the box and um. So that's one thing to point out: there is a p-trap here, but again this is a positive pressure, so i i will see a lot of train guys, um or even you know, mitsubishi guys.

They'll uh not put a p-trap, but you know they've got an easy trap there. I i don't have a lot to say about this particular install. They did a good job. Everything looks nice and clean, um and uh.

You know they did. They did a pretty good job. They've got a secondary, float, switch an easy trap, all good things. I don't know where in the house this is located, but it's definitely you know it's not in an attic or a crawl space.

So you know it's good having these float switches and things like that in place. So that way, you know your system will turn off um. Let's see mr conley sent me pictures of his. This looks like an older unit as well, which is totally fine um, and one thing that does jump out at me right away.

Is this uh they've got this old uh pvc pipe here um, it's not the end of the world, but i have seen these where, if they're you know, if they're not strapped well, the fan uh can hit those and uh. I actually had one years ago where it was turned a certain way and water was being able to go in the pipe all the way down and get into the electrical housing. So it was just dumping water inside where the electrical components were um. Other than that, you know just stan standard, older system that we're looking at here, um, i'm not sure if mr conley had something specific that he wanted me to uh.

Let's see where elvis man commented florida, so maybe he's talking about one of these other ones that we looked at, i'm not sure but uh you know again. This is another one that they've, obviously gotten their money's worth. Um looks like um one of the games. I like to play with my wife is we'll guess the brand.

Sometimes this one's tough uh, i'm wondering if it's an old janitrol type system with the way this this side over here looks, but you guys don't care what brand it is um, but i'd be curious. What brand uh it is to see if i'm accurate, maybe a nordyne unit, but it's definitely not. You know trainer or carrier or any of those guys just from the way that looks um. Okay - and here we go.

Mr conley sent a few other pictures, so he sent me pictures of looks like the line sets down in there. Maybe the copper lines, so he didn't really say anything with his with his pictures, which is fine, but i'm not sure you know. If there's anything else, you wanted me to look at uh. Oh here we go, so this is from vicki conley.

So this is mr conley's, maybe his significant other. I hope you review my pictures as one of your reviews. My heat pump is 15 years old and i've maintained a maintenance program for the entire 15 years. Thanks mark yeah mark i mean it looks like you've got your money's worth pal uh and i think i was right.

This is an old, janitrol and or goodman unit. Um so kudos to me for guessing that uh, but that said uh i uh just like the other ones we were talking about. I would definitely get this armor flex replaced here. I would want to see all this stuff strapped up a little better um.

I don't see a lot of weeds in here, but if somebody were to bring a weed whacker in here or if they were to, you know try to even walk through here. Maybe they needed needed to get back here and clean up some of the leaves or something or clean out this downspout, or something like that. You know. Sometimes, when i see low voltage, wiring just kind of hanging there, it's possible for somebody to kind of catch their foot on that or whatever, and i always like to strap it.

If you want to get super technical, i like to strap it on the bottom side of everything, so that way it gets baked by the sun, the least and uh. You know it's not sitting on the top of the unit there uh, you know so he's kind of just hidden down under um, but yeah i mean it looks like mr, mr conley's gotten his money's worth out of this system. There's not a lot for me to say you know other than that um i did. As you can see, it's got my name over here.

I did go ahead and start sending some pictures of some systems to myself, because i wanted to do this live. I thought it would be helpful and um. I wasn't getting as many pictures as i thought i would i got. You know got a few people there, but i thought just for this video.

We would go through a few more pictures that i was able to send to myself from either facebook groups that i'm in or uh pictures on the internet, and that way you can kind of see what i'm seeing. So you know here's a unit that is a new unit that they installed and um a couple of things just kind of jumped out. I i i think this is a good looking install for the most part. I would have liked to seen a strap put on uh the wall here um, i don't think there's too many electrical code inspectors that would have.

You know like to see that seal tight, just kind of you know zip tied to the um line, sets like that, and you know as years go on those zip ties aren't going to be there forever. Anyway. You know you could argue that, but you know inspectors want what they want, but the thing that really jumped out at me about this picture. You know it's a nice looking unit, they did good with their line sets and the and the uh the seal tight, but they reused the old disconnect.

It appears - and you can see that appears to me to be romex and that is not up to code, so that romex should not be exposed to the outside it's against code. So i just wanted to point that out. I'm gon na zip through some of these pictures. But again i just wanted to see that i took i jumped this one in there just the same um, because there's no strap there and then the other thing that jumps out at me about this particular picture.

Again. This is a newer, looking system, but they, it doesn't appear from this picture that there's a lot of clearance. I did a whole video years ago, where you know i talked about how much clearance you need to have between an outdoor unit, and you know shrubs or walls or whatever. So that way, it gets a proper amount of airflow, and so it can do what it's supposed to do.

It doesn't have to overwork itself and you have things break down and then, of course we just talked about it with the last picture, and here is the low voltage, cable again just kind of hanging here. All it takes is for somebody to be. You know if they walk around this unit, they're going to try to trim this bush over here. So, like, let's say, one of the branches is sticking out behind the unit, so they're going to take a step over all of this and also their foot catches on that low voltage.

That's just dangling right there. I would have liked to seen that it, you know, run on the bottom side of all of this and nice and strapped, and you know so that way. That would never happen. I don't know just a little pet peeve of mine um, but you know whatever state.

This is in they've got snow legs here and uh. You know overall looks, looks fine, uh, let's see uh, here's an air handler and uh, and i apologize if i missed something. I'm just trying to zip through these real, quick guys and uh. You know again just to kind of help.

You see a few things, but um, let's see got it okay, so you know this is not a that horrible. Looking of a unit i feel like it could have been done a little nicer, but i think the main thing that really jumps out about really jumps out at me about this particular install as i look at this um is the fact that whoever installed this was Not thinking about maintenance in the future, so they ran the line, sets right in front of the doors here and you know whoever has to come. You know some some day they might have to come back and replace this blower motor. Well, to get to that, it's going to be a bear.

You know they're going to have to kind of bend. These line sets out of the way, pull that thing out and get that motor replaced, so that that was the main thing that jumped out at me. It could have been done. It's you know in comparison to some of the other ones we've already looked at it.

Could could have definitely been, you know, done a little nicer, a little less sloppy, but that's the main thing that jumps out at me about this particular one uh this one we talked about just a second ago, there's very little clearance around it um. You know - and i you might say well, you know he didn't have a lot of choice. Look how big that unit is. He has choices, you know they.

They could have installed a uh side discharge unit these days and they don't require as much clearance, and we also have you know line sets here that it looks like they just went through a uh, a basement window or something here, it's kind of an odd setup. They brought the electrical out the same way: um, not strapped, you know so. Here's the seal tight and they just kind of got it wedged behind the vinyl siding here and then they brought the line sets out the same place. So pretty sloppy.

To be honest with you, i would not want to see one of my guys do that. Um again, you know. Look at this long whip that they've got here. I would have cut that back, probably strapped it to my line, sets here and uh.

You know again. It's a little sloppy and uh and it would have failed code for that matter because it's not strapped here to the wall either so um. The other thing i wanted. The reason i sent this picture is it has the wall brackets.

You know so in some states. This is becoming a thing where they'll actually put even large trash cans, style, outdoor units and they'll put them on these wall brackets um and then finally, i threw this picture in there. I found this one on the internet as well. Um - and it looks you know pretty sloppy obviously, and it actually appears - and i could be wrong but uh, you know they've got the wall brackets here and it appears that this line set has been kinked at some point.

You know this thing might have used to come out a little bit before it went down and someone you know, hung on it or got hit by something i don't know there. I could be wrong on that, but it just appears that way because of the even the way this liquid line looks kinda, so uh just pretty sloppy to be honest with you just you know again. Is it working fi, you know probably, but it just it's just kind of sloppy. You know we want.

We want to take pride in our work and want those to look fine uh. I took this picture. Here's a couple. It almost looks like some of those old armstrong units, but or actually this might be trained now that i'm looking at the top but um these uh.

These are set way too close to one another. A lot of the. If you look at an install manual for a heat pump system, it'll have clearances, you know from shrubbery and walls, but it'll also say how far away it needs to be from other heating and air systems. If it's not in there, if you just for some weird reason, have a unit that they do not have the clearances, then i would definitely say a minimum of 12 inches 12 to 18 inches.

If, if i don't have something to go by same thing in this picture got a whole bunch of units, it's hard, it's really hard to tell in this picture how close they actually are. But you know this big goodman unit certainly looks like it's pretty close to that wall back there, and so why do you care if you're a homeowner? Well, the reason is you just paid. You know for a two ton system and you're only getting a ton and a half, because one of the sides is being restricted. You know it's got not getting enough air across that coil.

So this one today uh a guide posted this and a couple things jumped out at me. It's actually in comparison, not a bad looking install compared to a lot of other installs that i see, but a couple things kind of jumped out at me, uh. The first thing being we just talked about the whips, so you see the whip. Here is just kind of hanging and dangling and same with the low voltage here um.

I would have liked seeing that strapped a little. You know a little better um we're going to get back to the shroud in just a second but looks like they reused the gas line here and in fact i think i have a picture yeah here. So here's a picture of the old unit that he replaced, so is it better than the old unit uh. You know it looks better than the old unit where they just did a little shield here and then the ductwork back here is completely exposed to the elements.

So they don't have an actual shroud there, but other than that you know at least on the old unit. It appears that the uh that the whip was strapped. You know it wasn't strapped to the house, but you know strapped there, so they reused a lot. The gas line, which is fine, but you know it's rusty, it doesn't look the best i probably would have.

You know i don't know, thrown a coat of paint on there. Um there's no p-trap in the uh drain here uh. Why do you care? Why would you care, if you're a homeowner there's a couple reasons for that, but the main reason is uh: it can actually pull unfiltered air through that unit. So whenever i have an outdoor package unit like that, i like for there to be a p-trap in there.

For that reason, but you know p-traps in general, you know you have critters and all kinds of things climb up in that system and we want to get a p-trap on there and then the last thing before we get to the shroud is, it looks like they Set bricks on the ground and then set a pad, hopefully that lasts, but i i don't know that i would have done it that way. I would have uh. You know tried to come up with something a little more permanent and uh. You know it looks fine.

It actually, you know, looks better than than some but um. You know that unit is is in pretty sad shape there uh or that unit could get in sad shape. Sorry, i'm trying to look at two things at once. The final thing is, i wanted to wanted to show you is this shroud and in comparison i've seen a lot worse.

You know it's a nice new, looking shroud and you know they've they've, obviously put a lot of work into it, but um. You know the one thing i will say: the positive is they've got it at a slope here, and it is sloping away from the house. So what rain hits this it'll slope away from the house? The problem is: they've brought the shroud all the way up here to the top of the unit versus down where we would normally do it and uh. Maybe they did that because of the way the old one was.

I don't know i mean you kind of see the old one was that way: kinda sorta, but the real issue with that is, if you ever need to do any repair to this, and you need to remove this top uh. That shroud is going to be a hindrance to do that, whereas if they would have just installed it correctly or normal, i shouldn't say correctly, but the way we would have installed it, where the top of the unit would have been down here. On top of the shroud, rather then it wouldn't be hindering the unit at all. You know, you'd be able to do your repair, pull that top off.

If you needed to check that heat exchanger or replace a coil or whatever the reason is, you need to remove the top you'd be able to do that easily. So, just a couple things jumped out at me, there um with that one. Here's a air handler that i sent to myself for this and um the uh. You know the thing that probably jumps out at me.

The most with this is uh. You know, there's certainly ways that you know that they could have done. I can't even see the drain back here, so they could be good could be bad uh. I would think that there's probably not a p-trap if i'm not seeing it easily there, so they just plumbed it out, but i could be wrong on that uh.

But the main thing that jumped out at me about this one is: i i personally wonder if it would have been better to just do what we call a closet air handler. You know one of those wall hung closet air handlers because they built a stand here. They've got it in a closet here, and you know: they've got this big air handler there, where they pro might have gotten by with just a closet air handler. Now, if you do like one of these newer, you know inverter systems and you you know to make an ahri match your your options are limited.

Well then, you know your options are limited. Ah, let's see, let me come back to that. Okay, good, all right. So now we're up here uh this one i had to send to myself, because that the the things that i'm seeing wrong with this one are all over the place.

So the first thing uh that i see is you know you've got this unit. It's set way out from the house, which is fine, uh they've got it set between the two windows. You know, i guess i would have rather seen that than in front of one of the windows, but they've got it in front of these electrical components. Now i don't know if this is a temporary service, it it.

You know, i'm i'm just guessing that it is for some reason: they've. You know they've they've disconnected it up here and then it looks like maybe they set a new meter base or meter. I'm not sure really what's going on here with all of that, but i can tell you that uh, it may not meet code for this. First of all for this electrical panel to be behind this unit um, and so that inspector might come through and fail this.

The unit certainly looks new. This looks like maybe a pain or or something like that - a carrier-type product sitting out here, but it's set way out from the house and you've got all this stuff going on behind it and then you've got these line. Sets run exposed up the wall and maybe they're gon na you know, maybe they whoever did this. If they happen to see this, maybe they might come back and say well, i would you know i wasn't done.

I was gon na put put some slim duct in there, which i highly doubt, but if they were to come back and say that then you know my rebuttal would be well, then you know: let's go ahead and drill a nice clean, looking hole to get into That attic, instead of going through this uh gable vent or whatever the word is, i you know gables, i'm not sure. If that's considered a gable or not, i'm not a builder, but whatever whatever that vent is into the attic um they you know just ran it through there. You know it's kind of lazy to be honest with you and um very sloppy looking, so i thought i'd show you that uh furnace uh. I wanted to show you this, because this is one of the ones that i thought that i came across.

I said you know this is actually a nice looking install, so you know kudos to them. I am going to point out one thing to you in just a moment, but i didn't want you know if somebody came across this video to say well, it's just all you know. Josh is pointing out all these things that are wrong um. You know why don't we see some things that are correct and i would say you know the gas line looks nice and clean um the drains all you know everything looks pretty good with that um.

I probably would have liked to see maybe a vent right here for it to drain better down into this condensate pump, but i'm probably splitting hairs there other than that. You know, apparently, in this state or area they like to mark their exhaust and air intake. All that looks good they've got a april air filter down here. That looks good.

You know all this stuff. The only thing that i would probably point out is here. It is from another angle is, i would be very surprised, you've got this gigantic plenum and a whole house home filter. You know, that's probably like uh, you know probably 20 20, some inches deep and uh.

You know. Probably you know, i don't know 18 inches tall 16 inches tall, whatever it is uh, but then they it appears again. I'm i don't have my measuring tape in this picture, but it appears that this return is rather small, and i would say that for for a lot of these guys that do nice looking work, that is where they fall short. The most you know, they'll do some very nice looking work and but they never, you know, pull out a duck later and do it correctly so that that's probably the biggest thing that jumped out at me.

You know if we're just using you know just this picture as a reference. I would assume that this plenum is probably a 16 by you know: 24 inches deep, i'm just guessing but 16 24, and you know so then that if you were to use that as a reference, then this is probably eight inches right here and then you know Only you know 20 inches this way, so i don't have my duck later on me, but depending on what size furnace this is, that would probably be an undersized return. Um. I see that probably more than anything in our industry where guys just don't size their ductwork correctly uh.

Here, let's looks like a hairy homeowner special. They uh probably got this unit online and did not know how to uh install the line. Sets correctly. You know cut them back and and all that stuff, so they um, so they you know just left the excess lancets and then reconnected it there.

So i thought that was kind of funny. Looking um, it looks like they ran their communication, cable, which is fine, but they ran that and sealed tight. So maybe this wasn't a homeowner. Maybe this is just a um.

I don't you know if this is a heating and air guy. I'm very surprised that you know he did not cut this back and then reflare his uh copper there uh here we go. Somebody just just sent this to me today. Awesome! Thank you.

Um did i go through all these pictures? I did okay, all right uh, so it looks like mr eberhardt sent me some pictures here. So great thanks, uh, mr eberhart we're gon na go through these uh got a honeywell 9000 here. My only problem with the 9000s is: there is no way to control. So if this is a heat pump system, i haven't got there yet, but if this is a heat pump system, uh there's no way to control that backup heat stage uh at all.

You know: there's no timer on it. Unless they've changed something. I know the old 9000's, you couldn't control it so a lot of times it was running too much. You know it was bringing on the auxiliary heat way too often and they were having um.

You know high electric bills because of it uh the other than that. The nine thousands are cool. Looking i you know, i've installed them for uh folks, um, that you know i could think of one homeowner in particular that he just liked how they looked. You know he found him online and he said hey.

I ordered a couple. Nine thousands online will, you come put them in and he was you know actually a friend of mine, so i went and put him in um. So wherever this is it's, it looks like it not only was snow there, but they took this picture while snow was falling, so uh pretty crazy uh, because, depending on where mr eberhard is i'm looking out the window - and you know we're at almost 80 degrees today, So here in virginia, which we're still at the beginning of spring kinda, sorta well midway through spring other than that um we've already talked about before. I would like to see this strapped a little better.

The seal tight is just kind of hanging there uh, i don't. Unless i'm missing something, i don't see any straps there line sets look good. You know they did nice bends here um. I can't tell uh actually that that might be a 90 that they put in there, so they didn't even bend the line.

Sets they added a 90.. So that's fine as long as everything was nice and tight and they braced properly um, and then i guess the only other thing is. I would have liked to seen this um low voltage, cable run on the bottom side of my line sets and strapped. You know.

I'm i'm, i know i'm splitting hairs there, but um that's just kind of like a little pet peeve of mine, so um, let's see not much to see in this picture other than it's got the big d on it. Dyken um and looks like we've. Is this a mobile home it's hard to tell in the picture, but i think it is we got underpinning here. So that means they paired that with a uh, a mobile home furnace here and uh at least in virginia.

I can tell you that if they did do a 9 000 here and i would have liked to seen a heat pump installed, we see all the time here again i'm talking about here in virginia. I just had a conversation with a guy on here. Um, hey mark. I see i see where you commented um.

I uh. I had a conversation with a guy a couple weeks ago and he said well we're in the dakotas and it's super cold here. So we don't do heat pumps at all. You know which was fine, but here in virginia it's a lot of times when they do manufactured housing and they'll.

Do a mobile home furnace they'll put a straight ac outside and they're, basically putting in the absolute bare minimum they're putting in the least seer air conditioning unit, not a heat pump outside they'll put the least expensive mobile home furnace in and you know, they're just getting By with the minimums there and we've had customers that when we went in to replace you know here, we are 10 20 years later and we're now gon na replace that uh furnace we'll go ahead and put a heat pump in outside and their electric bills drop Dramatically dramatically, i did a whole video on that um uh, i don't know maybe six months ago, but uh you know all you don't have to install an inverter system or get super crazy just by swapping that straight ac for a heat pump outside with a mobile Home furnace, their electric bills just drop dramatically um like we're talking hundreds of dollars. So this doesn't, it doesn't become a debate between sear anymore, just installing a heat pump versus straight ac, uh big time difference, uh, not a lot to see in the in these pictures. I do like that. There's filters there in front of the doors a lot of these mobile home furnaces.

There is no place to install a filter. They'll literally have louvers in the front of the uh furnace like that, and then there won't be any filter. You know they'll they'll expect you to get a coil with some sort of mesh filter on top of it, so this is actually really nice. Looking, i don't know if they came like this or if this was something added but uh.

This is a good looking. You know little filter rack that they've installed and it's got these washable filters here um. So i like seeing that but other than that, there's not a lot to see in this picture um. I do see some wires here, so you know you could argue that that could be cleaned up a little nicer, but other than that you know, that's that's pretty much it with that um.

The other thing that we've done i'll just throw this out before we wrap up with our live video here um, that's my system, you're yup! No, so mr eberhard you're, the guy, i was talking to um the one thing i'll throw out there too. Is these new bosch systems can be paired? I don't know if you've seen any of my videos on bosch, but they have uh inverter systems that now can be paired with 24 volt standard systems. You know so your honeywell 9000 or whatever and uh. So, mr uh.

Mr everhart, you don't have to uh, you don't have to worry about the 9 000 thing that we were talking about um with it running the backup heat too often but anyway. So if you do one of these bosch, um inverter systems, they're saving, even more and the good thing about the bosch system versus say even a single stage, daikin or two-stage dike and whatever we've got here. Uh is not only are they more efficient, but that all that system cares about is what the coil temperature is. So it's going to monitor that suction pressure coming back and ramp up and down and save energy because of that and uh with the we're pairing with mobile home furnaces, i'm telling you we've had customers with electric bills in the winter time, three, four five hundred dollars For a small little trailer, you know they're talking about a thousand twelve hundred square foot.

Trailer and they'll have like a stinking 500 electric bill and we put one of these systems in and it drops dramatically less than 200 a month. You know they're saving, hundreds of dollars a month, um everything on my install was sealed inside you just can't see it on the outside. I apologize for not making that clear, no yeah, no problem pal uh, i'm just pointing out things that uh folks, you know, may not think about when they're doing it. I kind of figured that to be honest with you, the more i looked in the picture uh because it wouldn't pass code originally if they would have done that um.

So it's actually, as i said, not a bad looking install or deal um. You don't want your heating and air guys, paint and stuff. Anyway, i was gon na say they could have painted that wood plenum, but uh you don't want them. Painting your stuff.

Uh heat pumps are cheaper than gas heat. That's a loaded, question um, but i'll answer. It like this, i did a video where we talked about some of the ways you can. You know change uh, your heating and save money, and i'll say this here in virginia, i've got customers that have natural gas furnaces, so they live in an area where they get natural gas and i've got customers that have lp gas, so they have liquid propane.

They'll have a truck come to their house and deliver that gas and uh what they'll? What they'll usually do is if they have natural gas, it's less expensive, it has it. It doesn't go up and down as much in price and um. It's it's just less expensive than propane, so they'll do a straight ac. So a lot of our customers in cities and even if you go further north, they don't even know what a heat pump is.

You can't even buy them. I was talking to somebody in long island the other day and uh. They were saying i can't even you know, i can't even get a heat pump if i wanted one and um so in other words, so the point is: if you have natural gas, you don't care about burning gas on a mild day, but if you have propane Gas, you do because it's at times it'll have spikes and it'll be expensive, and all this stuff you got ta, have somebody deliver it to your house and they'll. Do a what's called a dual fuel system: they'll have a heat pump outside with their gas furnace as their backup heat and on mild days, they're burning electricity, not gas.

You know they're running on heat pump and warming their home and then, if it gets super cold outside, then their furnace is there to help. So not sure if that answers your question: they're bible, bloopers but um. Hopefully that helps uh. If you come across this we're gon na do this again, maybe you know if i get some folks sending me some pictures of their systems, we'll do this again, um, it's pretty fun for me, um and uh.

This is something that, if you, you know a lot of heat and air guys do all the time anyway, they'll um, you know a lot of facebook groups, for example, some of the guys will post pictures of their install and they'll say you know. What do you think guys? And you know the guys will say well, you could have done this better. You could have done that better. I think ultimately uh.

It's there's something to be said for not being sloppy and you know doing it clean and all that stuff, but some of these things can actually affect the efficiency it can affect. You know the performance of the system and things like that and then obviously you want things to be up to code and and safe, so i i hope that helps if you uh again, if you want to send me pictures of your unit, you come across this. Please do send it to that new email that that emails only for this only i you know for for now it doesn't i'm not going to use it for anything else, so other than that, thanks for watching hit that subscribe button, if you haven't already and we'll Do this again, thank you. You.