Foreign. Thank you Hello hello we are live Heating and Air entertainment coming at you. Big announcement tonight! We're gonna wait a little bit later in the show to make our big announcement, but uh, looks like a couple you guys are already on with us. So hey to Gary 's uh, been with us a few times now and hello to Arch Good to see you guys and uh, looks like a guy named Scott had waved at us on our show this morning so he was really early.

uh for tonight's live show but uh anyway. uh, our show is mostly about heating and air. uh every now and then we sprinkle a little bit of other stuff in there, but mostly about heating and air conditioning questions. we uh, take your questions live, feel free to drop those in the chat and if I can't answer it uh, I'm usually honest about that.

um, but we uh sometimes will have some other um Pros on here that can help answer questions as well. So hey to Ryan and hey to Carl Good to see you guys as well and we've got a few regulars that hop on with us every week. so I really appreciate you guys supporting us and uh, joining us every week. So every week we're so far.

we've been doing this for a couple months now and we've been live every week. Tuesday Night at 8 30 Eastern Standard Time um hi Josh looks like the name I'm sorry I will probably uh butcher this but sheer I'm gonna say sheer let me know if I'm saying your name wrong but hey to you and uh yeah. So if any of you guys have any uh questions heat and air questions, feel free to pop those in the chat. I um wanted to start out tonight.

let's see, let me see if I can roll back up here. One of the uh one of the news Publications Heating and Air related that I follow regularly is AC HR News.com and um I'll sometimes reference their stuff in some of our videos but uh, thought I'd start out tonight talking about uh, they did an article this past uh magazine where they said that Hardy members report April sales dip and I'm curious if you uh, if you have a a hypothesis on why you think that is I'm going to read this article and why they think that is I think that weather probably does play a role right? I mean if it's a milder April than say last April was maybe but I think there's a few other things that play here. um and I'll touch on that in just a moment. but again, if you have any heating and air questions, feel free to drop those in the chat while I roll through this article.

uh, it says sales by Hvacr Distributors participating in the heating air conditioning and Refrigeration Distributors International Trends report declined by four percent during April 2023 according to Hardy Sales growth for the previous 12 months through April was 12 percent Hardy Reported this looks like a soft start to the first month of the cooling season, but that that is a bit misleading Said: Brian Loftus Hardy's Mike macro, economic and residential Market Analyst in a press release. Besides being compared to very busy prior year, April 2023 had one less billing day than last year, which is, uh, interesting. So I guess that does play a role. We estimate sales for the month would have increased by nearly one percent with the same number of billing days.

I Guess I Had not considered the billing days of the month, but but I'm gonna uh, go into this again. Why I Think it is in just this moment. the days the days sales outstanding. A measure of how quickly customers pay their bills was at 40 days in April The DSO This month is similar to the other post covet Aprils and much faster than pre-covered Pace Said Loftus We have been expecting the DSO to increase towards the pre-covered levels excuse me, but that is not happening yet.

So anyway, this, uh, this goes on. oh my camera just fell out guys. I Don't know if you can still hear me. but um I might have to do a restart here to get this camera working again.

So um, don't go nowhere. Don't go anywhere. um I'm going to. hmm yeah.

I'm gonna have to probably do a restart here. Um, don't go anywhere I'm gonna I'm gonna have to restart this guys I'm so sorry. All right guys man. technology is uh, a lovely thing sometimes.

so so sorry about that about to uh, catch back here. Um yeah. so I'll wrap up that article real quick and just say that I do think that uh, weather does play a role I think probably what he was saying, he's smarter than I am. He's probably right.

And I was going to say that some of the price increases we've seen over the last 24 months um, might have played a role in that as well. and I do think that there is a chance that we are on a little bit of a bubble? I Do think that there's also homeowners out there that are rising up and saying hey, if we've got new refrigerants coming, maybe I'll see what I can do to limp along and uh, try to um if you buy for now. So anyway, um yeah, let me uh Ryan says I Did some homework and prepared a few questions that's great. Um yeah, feel free to drop those in the chat.

but yeah, what a way to start our show tonight. especially with uh, the big announcement. Hopefully you guys think it's as big as I do I think it's pretty big for our little YouTube channel that uh, we're gonna be doing some big things here soon. So uh Ryan says do you do you do a manual s calculation I Hear about the manual J but not manual s we currently are.

We don't do a lot of it. um I have been required to do it a couple times. um by local entities um or to do something similar to a manual s When selecting the equipment and so on. Um, but it just depends on the situation I Do think it's a good thing I'm glad they came out with it and it's becoming more of a standard, but it is still pretty uncommon to be completely honest with you.

Do I think it's a good thing? Yes, but do I see a lot of Heating and Air Guys doing it? Um, no I do not. Uh. currently. So if you want me to be honest, um Carl says so.

So far our weather has been mild here in North Arizona which is crazy to me. I Always think of Arizona have an extreme temperatures but I guess you're up in the northern part of Arizona and you know I guess there's different different uh areas and different you know, temperatures right? Brian says prices are the reason I've gotten quotes in March and they were crazy from 15K to 32k replacement. crazy expensive in Charlotte that does sound really high compared to see the other folks that I help in our website new HVAC God, um I've actually heard that before that uh Charlotte and a few other places in North Carolina seem to be right up there with Uh New York and some of those big cities out west. Um, let's see Arch says I Decided on a 16 Seer three and a half ton Reem rude package heat pump to replace our Tempstar Nice! I Remember you talking about that? Um I'm having a hard time finding someone in small one.

Um, gotcha. So Arch so you have decided on the brand, the gym decided on the contractor. You might want to do it the other way around. You may want to find a really good contractor and then maybe go with the brand they recommend is a thought.

Um, but you know, let me know how that works out I know you joined us for each week and keep us updated on that. Mark that looks like a new name to us. Uh, so welcome to Mark what brand of dual capacitors do you use and are they American-made Um I get American made when I can. Sometimes our suppliers I can't Um, so I'm not really brand loyal on capacitors to be completely honest with you.

Um, if I get a brand that we're having issues with which has happened. It happened years ago. There was one particular brand that we were avoiding for at least for a while. Um, but honestly I I have a gal in our office that she'll shop around to our local suppliers when we do bulk borders on certain things.

We're not a real big company. Um, so we'll usually you know try to get little bulk orders here and shop around and make sure we're pricing we can. um, just from a business standpoint. Hey Bruce good to see you Bruce has joined us before Gary says hanging out with Josh friends no matter what crashes.

Yeah, it's uh I I was thinking as I was getting everything rebooting it back up I was like you know I'm here I've been promoting this big announcement and and of all week that's the week that uh, we have an issue again. Um, let's see Arch says I have a half dozen quotes from different HVAC installers who all quoted uh 13.4 to 14 Seer Rtus Is there a problem finding higher package heat pumps for? Is there a less profit versus lower steer Rtu? So Arch as I understand it, especially on the residential side of things. A lot of the big manufacturers they're not really. um, looking to, uh, it's such a small market share compared to a lot of other markets.

and so they you know they provide a unit. you know they provide enough of a unit so that they have an option. Um, but they don't have a lot of options if that makes sense. Um, and I've been told that by a few of the the large manufacturers.

Um so I don't know if that you know changes things too much for you, but I think most brands offer at least what you described a 13.4 CR2 but there are going to be a few of them that might offer up towards 15 15 to 16. and of course Bosch has that unit that's like 18 or 19.. Um group says what time is the live chat Yeah, we we got started. Actually I think about 30 seconds early tonight and then everything crashed.

My computer went blank and had to get everything restarted. Um, Art says Daikan is an alternative to Rain Doesn't make a three and a half ton 15.2 seer package unit. Is it better than homes are oversized? Yeah. Arch I would say as far as that goes I Would definitely want to get the properly sized unit and if you have to go, you know if the brand you want or the contractor you go with doesn't have the three and a half ton, then there's probably a reason for that.

So some of these systems some of these Brands might sell instead of a three and a half you know, a three, three and a half and then four right? They might only sell four, but you can program it or set the airflow to be a three and a half. So Carl says I saw her Mikey pipes put an R32 That is true. Um, in fact Mikey uh commented on our Channel and shared that video I think before it even went live on his channel. Um, but I could be wrong on that.

he might have just been sharing the video. Um, but yeah, as soon as uh, we're allowed to get him here in Virginia we're gonna get him. he's in one of the states that's approved the A2o refrigerants and I am not. um, art says.

hopefully prices are going down. A friend who knows people in construction said that many subcontractors are fishing up construction jobs, but that they are expecting a wall and new construction here I Have not heard that I Believe you? Um, we definitely have seen the Re. We've seen the real estate market cool a little. Um, this time last year it was quite hot.

You know the inventory was flying off the shelf from when it came to real estate, so that may play a role in this new construction as well. Jay says is Goodman bad equipment depends on who you ask Jay Uh, if you ask me, I say no. um I've installed a lot of Goodmans over the years and a lot of the reputation in my opinion that Goodman gets is typically because of how accessible the equipment is. Um, you can be an unlicensed contractor in some cases and get your hands on a Goodman the case with all brands you might be able to with, but then they've made their equipment super accessible because of that.

or Harry can get your hands on them and because of that, you know we've all a lot of times. and instead of it looking bad on the installer, it unfortunately looks bad on the brand. but I probably installed almost as many Goodmans as some of the other brands that we've installed and very few callbacks if they're installed correctly. in my opinion, they're They work just as good as anybody.

Arch says we had a mild name. Unfortunately because we have no AC Northern Arizona is much cooler than down here. They've only quoted 13.4 this year. Most don't seem to want to be bothered with questions and customer preferences.

I picked up a big dream. Rude because it's the most brand installed around here gotcha. Good reason to pick it. Um, but yeah, hopefully you can find that good contractor and then like say go with the brand that they recommend Brian says what do you think of air ionization? when is it better to use instead of high mer filters low static pressure I Also heard not to use anything that changed the chemistry of your air due to Ozone Etc yeah I the um.

the ionizers that we install do not create ozone. Um, ozone is something that a lot of folks are um uh, sensitive to and so uh I like ionizers I've seen them do some pretty cool things. Um, you know you can Google it some of the ionizers on the market. Um, Now in contrast, they don't do what a filter does right.

A filter filters the air. So you know when you talk about some of these air cleaners and ionizers and things like that, they're more of looking at it like they're not removing anything from the air, but they're cleaning the air in one way depending on what they do. whether it's a UV light or ionizer or whatever it is exactly it's doing. Um, but where filters are going to remove things from the air, particularly from the air? Sorry guys, I'm still getting over a cold.

Um, but uh, you know static pressure might play a role in that. You mentioned that you know if you have a filter that you're concerned about static pressure and you don't want to, you know affect that. One reason looking at an ionizer might be a reason that you know you say you, you avoid that static drop. uh with a you know Hammer filter.

Um, but I think they both serve their own purpose I think they both do two different things and um, you know I have I know guys out there that will fight you overheimer filter and say you shouldn't install them because of static pressures and there are just as many guys that'll fight you over ionizers and some of the air cleaners on the market saying that you should avoid those for one reason or another. so you know I Uh, I don't know that I have the know-how or a dog in the race I I understand static pressures and things like that, but I don't I don't claim to know things you know I'm not a scientist um, but again I have installed ionizers and heard good things from folks I'm honestly my non-negotiable my uh, my go-to when it comes to IQ is UV lights. Um, that's usually the one that I'll have folks start with for one reason. The situation is right.

If they have breathing issues or you know if you have a particular problem, then I'm trying to remedy. But I do think that human rights are the bare minimum. I I Personally think that every single heating and air system I'm not getting paid to say this I don't have a sponsor when it comes to UV lights or any air cleaners. but I Personally think that every single heating and air system in the country in the world should have some sort of UV light.

Um, but that's you know I I Don't understand guys that argue against that. Um, you know I just I've seen them do too many good things. And the pros: I Can't think of too many cons other than you know. Uh, in the old days, the UK white would maybe make the plastic components in the air more brittle, but you know these days they account for that.

So you know I think those days are behind us and I think that or at least mostly behind us. Um, and I that's my non-negotiable If you, you know you get I got on my circle box there for a moment Arch says it wasn't It wasn't my first choice wasn't okay, my first choice. but have read it's easier to repair and parts are readily available I would agree with that. Um.

Overall, you know I would agree with that even in my area. So when you're not in my area. so if you're hearing that I would agree with that. Brian says ceiling cassettes versus wall mount versus floor.

Is there a difference in maintenance for either style? The wall mounted and floor models seem more homeowner friendly to clean filters and such. Yeah, I would say from a homeowner standpoint. Um, you know the floor unit's probably going to be the easiest, right? You're going to be able to to reach that filter probably easier. I got an older customer.

that's something that I might consider. Um, having that. you know when it comes to a maintenance standpoint. but I would say from a maintenance standpoint for us professionals, they make kids for the One units.

Um, you can literally hang this bag off of it and really clean those units. well, um, any comparison, you know? So they all have their uh, I guess but you know I promise the point of what you're describing I would need for my model when it comes to maintenance for the homeowner. Um, they're going to be able to reach that filter on that easier than any of them, right? Cheers! Halo versus the Remy Halo LED So I Personally, at Griffin Air, we don't sell either one of those products. simply honestly because they're all really pricey.

Um, a lot of the you know the air scrubber. the Air Tonight the Remy Halo A lot of those products I think are great. Uh, the APCO Um, you know a lot of those those head those air cleaners that can run you know anywhere from I mean installed. There are companies that charge over a thousand dollars for some of those products to install them.

Um, you know I can do uh uh. You know I can do an eye wave you know, an ionizer and a UV light for less money in some cases. and uh, and in my opinion, get more. Um, get more bang for my buck because if I'm getting a standard UV light channel that unique oil I mean on that uh, evaporator coil, you know I might be getting more bang for my buck there.

So at Griffin Air, that's usually what we do. But you know when it comes to those products, honestly, they're all in a lot of cases doing the same thing. Um, they might do. One might do a little better than another, but they're all you know in that air in one way, shape or form.

So um, yeah, Jay says thank you I Agree 100. what happened? Nice Brian says I'm a little Frugal I'm interested in what temperatures people set their homes to and the cooling and heating seasons and where they live. I'm in North Carolina and set my heat to 64 66 and AC to 76 to 78. Wow you are Frugal um and tough.

Um I'll uh I'll be honest with you in the let's see the summer time we set our house at 70 and in the winter time we set our house is 69. um that's where we set our house and I'll be curious if anyone else answers your question on what their house is set to. So Ryan's looking for a little feedback from the rest of you guys. What do you keep your temperature set at typically? Um, let's see how we doing a little behind here.

Um we're gonna make our big announcement in just a moment that I told you guys we're gonna. we're gonna make Arch says I found a 16 Seer rude package unit from A supplier but they can't sell to me I Want to license the seller to be eligible for the 10-year warranty? otherwise I'd hire a semi-retired Tech to do it I Would recommend finding a good company that's going to take care of you long term. you know? Um, this my two cents Jay says it's all about the install. Yes sir! I Agree! Randy Welcome to our show.

My HVAC system air vents are on my floor so when running a ceiling fan so it draws the air towards the ceiling instead of blowing it towards the floor, would it help my AC work better? Uh I think circulation of air in general is a a good thing I I Just uh, was listening to a guy the other day talking about um, he's talking about um how ceiling fans are a part of your HVAC system was was kind of his point. he was doing it in a roundabout way but that was his point. and um, you know I think circulation of air in general. When we lay out duck work a lot of times we're looking at um what we call stale air so pockets of Mayor and so the hope the dream is when you lay out your ductwork, install your returns and your supplies, you want these Loops of air that almost kind of uh, what we call Scrub the walls or scrub, uh different parts of the home.

to remove that stale air, there's literally pockets of air that doesn't move and anything you can do to make more air circulation is going to add for better. Comfort Typically um so yeah. especially we have customers with high ceilings and just turning on their ceiling fans will actually reduce their electric bill because they're circulating the air better. It'll cool that space uh in there and then um, you know they don't have these stale pockets of warm air that all of a sudden draft through and you know, make the system run longer and such.

You know, so it's better, more comfort, and also can affect your utility bills. Believe it or not, Art says I've read the same thing about Goodman Ryan says have you installed the new dike in one touch yet I See that Amanda's version is the same thermostat as being sold and installed? Yes, Orvins, we've installed a few of them and I love them? Um, we haven't completely. Uh, we'll usually do the Daikin one plus um, because of some of the accessories and the Daikin One plus can be paired with um, other options like uh, ductless units which install them with ductless units a lot. but you do have that capability.

but they also have an extra set of dry contacts. So um, you know, unless the customer has a preference, I'll usually do the Daikin one plus but we have done the dike in one touch. and if they're getting no accessories like if they're going to fit and they're doing the dike one, you know no accessories with a fit. I'll I'll the Nike One Touch no doubt.

I I think it's a good looking thermostat too Randy says I stepped mine to 74 in the heat at 76 and cool. So Randy likes a warm house. oh I'm a chubby guy so I I uh cooler than that. My best friend uh he keeps this house real warm and I I swear sweat like a bull when I go over there.

So I'm gonna answer this one last question here. and then we're gonna make our big announcement for you guys and I'm excited to make it. So Art says: I believe you mentioned adjusting the four ton unit for the size of the house. Is this adjusting the static pressure? If so, can you briefly explain what it, what is static pressure and how to adjust it? So static pressure is basically the Restriction of the the duct work right? So there's probably a better definition of that, but that's the best way I can explain it.

So if I were to blow a certain amount of air, so if I had a if I have a fan, that's going to blow a thousand Cfms and I'll blow it through a um, let's say a a 12 inch round pipe. Okay, and I'm going to have a certain amount of restriction on that. You know, a certain amount of um, you know of of of it holding back that air if you will. So it's pushing this air and you've got this pressure.

Okay, if you were to reduce that pipe size to say 10 inches, the pressure static pressure would go up. There's more pressure there is the idea. And so a lot of times when heating and air guys are setting things, they will adjust air flow. They won't necessarily adjust the static pressure, but they will measure the static pressure to decide.

Hey, do am I sized right? do I have a problem here? Do I have a static drop across a filter or something else holding me back? Um, so that's kind of a nutshell on what that would mean. And so when you do, uh, say a four ton system in place of a three and a half, you're going to adjust the airflow because your ductwork is sized for three and a half tons. Otherwise, your static pressure is going to be too high. Um, and you know you, you can have issues with, you know, uh, things like the evaporator coil freezing up or whatever if you're not getting the proper airflow.

Um, it can. It can do a lot of different things, but that. that's kind of the gist of it. Um, when you're talking about static pressure, I could probably keep you I Went here all night talking about the ins and outs of of that and um, you know while we we watch that and such.

but we we have, uh, we have certain targets that we like to hit for static pressures on the return side and the supply side. Um, and there's a number of reasons for that, one of those being comfort and and performance of the system, but the other one, uh, is noise. You know if you get a system that has high static pressures, you know it's going to be noisy. You know it's gonna, you're gonna hear that turn Grill kind of whistle a little bit, you know? So that's kind of a nutshell.

So guys, let me take a moment and make my big announcement. I'm excited I meant to make this announcement last week, but this is our big announcement. Um I have the honor the uh you know I've I've been invited by the largest um, one of the largest manufacturers in the world which is Daikin you guys have heard me talk about Daikin before that's the brand we saw a Griffin Air and they're going to give us behind closed doors access to their Factory we're going to go down to Houston Texas next month we're going to record some videos. We're going to go behind the scenes a little bit.

We're gonna, um, sit down with some of the executives and maybe kind of ask me some questions and you know it's just, um, it's going to be. you know, kind of a cool experience. I'm gonna make the best of it and we're gonna make as many videos while we're there as well. um videos that you know I'm hoping we'll help you guys so we're going to Vlog the experience but we're also again, we're going to make the best of it.

We're going to try to show you guys some things that maybe you wouldn't see elsewhere and you know, really, go behind closed doors if you will. I've been chatting with them about that trip coming up. Um, it'll be uh, it's going to be. halfway through.

July I believe um I don't have a calendar in front of me, but it's going to be. you know, somewhere in the middle of July we're gonna head down and you know I'm excited. It's what I've been talking about doing. you know guys, more than anything being able to show homeowners some of the things they don't get to see elsewhere.

some of the things that you know they don't get to, they don't get access to. you know, sometimes they're just they're just buying a product from a heating and air guy standing in their home and this. I'm hoping this will give us the ability to maybe show a little more than that. So that's kind of the big announcement.

I've been excited to share with you guys I knew about it last week I just simply got wrapped up in our show and forgot the share it. um but yeah I've I've been having a chats with them about that and um you know it's going to happen. so um, stay tuned for more of that. We're gonna probably do a whole series uh, videos, a whole playlist on our YouTube channel of just that trip.

Things that we're going to show: uh, you know, a hot closed doors if you will, you know and um sit down with some of their their Executives and folks that you know make the decisions there and uh you know, ask some questions. So I'm looking forward to that if you can't tell. And that's the big announcement that I've been hanging on to if you will and uh, telling you guys about. So anyway, pretty cool.

Back to our uh chat here: Ryan says I wish U.S manufacturers combined HVAC systems and water heating. Like everywhere else, it would be great to have one system with both I Know Space Pack does, but it has hydronics which isn't as popular. Um yeah, I mean I know that that's a bigger deal over in Europe especially. um, but you know there are certain parts of the U.S especially the Northern parts that I think it would make sense, but then there's certain parts of the US that it just simply wouldn't But I I think you're right.

You know I think there's a definitely a place for it here and I'm surprised we don't see more of it for sure. Ryan says the five inch carbon filter I put in my system a three weeks ago seems to be working for eliminating odors I'm still not quite 100 on that yet as I don't run my system as much as others to see more results. Nice. Um, feel free to drop a link to that product if you want Ryan Um Carl says I set my heat to 67 to 68 and cooling to 77.

Wow! you guys are way tougher than I am Been a warm house there uh Ryan says I need to do more testing Ryan also says have you installed the new Daikin One Touch yet? yes yeah I already answered that Thomas says do you service the Philadelphia area Thomas I do not I have been to Philadelphia but I'm in Virginia I Used to work for a company that was uh based in Philadelphia and so I went up there for a couple of classes one time. um it was interesting. You know Philadelphia is an interesting City um a lot of historical stuff there for sure. Kendall I think I've seen you on our show before so welcome back Trying to decide between a 15 Seer Bosch system or a 20 Seer split system.

Just wondering if the 20 Seer is worth the extra money. Yeah I mean it just depends on how much you use the system. um it is going to have that variable speed air handler. You know, maybe that might be something to think about I don't know what your uh what, your cost difference is there but um you know it's definitely a decision to be made and I I can't make it for you.

but if you feel like you're home a lot and you run your system and you keep it at a reasonable temperature on some of these other guys that keep their house pretty warm um I think that you you will see a savings but is it worth it? I I can't answer that for you Ryan says when would you use a low static versus high static ducted indoor unit uh the only the only real time that I mess with high static stuff is we do have a few customers that have the small duct High Velocity units where they intentionally make they have these really small ducks with high forced air. um and so we mess with my static stuff when it comes to that. um and then the other instance that I can think of off the top of my head as mobile homes have those electric furnaces that are meant for high static. So a couple of you guys think congrats which is awesome Yeah I'm excited about that trip.

uh coming up. um you know this This this whole YouTube thing started out as kind of a hobby and now it's kind of turned into something that you know, maybe we can actually get behind a closed door too, right? you know and show you guys some some cool stuff. Um Ryan says hopefully you get some, record some content. Yep, we plan to.

We're going to be taking all of our camera stuff down, taking some GoPros taking some uh, some of our other cameras and recording the the whole the whole deal. they they know why we're coming and what what we're going to be doing. They invited us, you know I've been bugging them and they uh they invited us so that's great. Um maybe you could take a look at the dike in Goodman package units.

Yep, um Ryan says glad you were being recognized. You're a big Advocate and supporter for their systems. Yeah, I mean it's uh I've been drinking the Kool-Aid for a little while, right? So Derek says biggest congrats Josh on your visit. Looking forward to future videos on experience.

Yep, we've already got a few videos that we're planning on recording. Maybe we'll share that upcoming live show some of the videos that we plan or record while we're there. Um, so yeah, Eric says is there a determining Factor on whether a new two-story build has one larger or two smaller systems? Um, if there, if it's a two-story Eric Um, I think most I would say most Pros would agree that two separate systems is ideal. Um, but if you have to do one single system for one reason or another, then obviously you're going to want it to be zoned.

And we've done a bunch of videos on zoning. Uh, things to consider when you're zoning a system. Um, you know I think these days, with the how far we've come with zoning and the capabilities of uh, communicating inverter systems, I would say that you probably want to go that route. You want to do a communicating inverter system.

Uh, with that zoning because it has the ability to ramp up and down and account for times when a smaller zone is calling whereas if you have the in the old days, we'd have these big giant single stage systems, you know, like a four or five to one system and then you're trying to blow all this air. You know we're talking about static pressures. A minute ago, trying to blow up this air through this tiny little hole. If you will, you know just that.

one little zone is calling and you're blowing all that air. We've had to account for that. We've had things like bypass dampers and you know, uh, temperature sensors and things that would have to account for that. Um, but I Think for my comfort standpoint and from a um, you know, uh, performance standpoint, most Pros would probably agree.

Uh, there may be exceptions to this in certain parts of the country, but for the most part I think we would all agree that you know you would. you're going to get more Comfort Out of two separate systems, you might pay a little more. You're going to get better. Comfort If you have two separate systems.

uh, at least here in Virginia That's how we do it a lot. We'll do one system on the first World war with the ductwork in the crawl space or basement and then we'll do on the Second Story We'll do. you know, all the duct work in the attic and and have your two separate systems that way. So sometimes it's a matter of just physically getting adopt from that first floor to the second floor.

Sometimes that's part of the the, uh, you know the decision. You know if it just you don't have a certain part of the house where it just simply makes sense to run that dog. Uh, then you might do two separate systems for that reason alone, you know. So just something to think about there.

Um, Eric says thanks thank you pal. So uh, yeah, if you have a heating and air question, feel free to drop that. Uh, it looks like I finally got up here and we've got a little bit of time left for our show. In the meantime, Let's uh, break away for uh, a segment that we have been doing the last few weeks on.

um, inventions not invented yet. You're welcome to steal this these inventions. Uh, we talked about one week. one week of uh, doing your geothermal Loops bearing them when the foundation is dug.

Uh, we talked about Bluetooth thermostats Wireless stats that would just you know, no wires at all that would just by Bluetooth connect to the heating and air system and um, this week. um the where did it go? Where did it go? Where did it go? Hold on I had a really cool one that I was gonna that I was going to say for this week and now I'm not seeing it. Bear with me I'm reading through I made a list of them so bear with me. Okay, uh, here we go.

Okay, so this week our hypothetical. so have you guys seen? Let me see if I can share my computer here. You guys seen the recessed um, mini splits that some of the brands are making now I Can does not have one yet, but I'm sure they will eventually recessed mini splits. and I'm not talking about the cassette ones, not the big ones.

I'm talking about the little ones. So here's one right here. Share this tab here. We go there, we go.

So these right here. Have you guys seen? There's a few different brands that are making them, including the brand we will not mention because they attacked me once. Um, but they kind of look like that and they kind of recess up at the ceiling and unlike a ceiling cassette. so like a ceiling because that would be more like this.

Unlike these these recessed units that we're talking about like this one. Um, they between the joists. So that's really the the advantage of these in comparison to the percent units. So they basically look like a wall unit wall home unit that are recessed in the ceiling.

Um, so my hypothetical invention that I was going to throw out there is having one of these type of units, but having the entire unit and the wall and on the back side of that wall. So have it on an exterior wall and on the back side of that wall. it would look like it would look like just a fan. So you all you would see.

So you see this side discharge unit here all you would see is just a this fan grill right here just like a p-tack you you know there's Tech units you see in hotels and instead of having you know this entire unit sitting out there it would all be in the wall and all you would see is this little Grill here with a with a fan and so I don't know what we would call it. That's my hypothetical invention for this week. Um let me know you what you think of my hypothetical invention. I Think if it was installed properly if the right kind of unit you would have your you know you'd have your your joists that are your exterior joists that are these days um on a lot of homes and you would have them as opinion centers.

You would be able to hypothetically fit this outdoor unit and have something like these recessed units that I was showing you them. They go in the wall would you know fit in between the joints? Let me let me know what you think of my hypothetical invention. That's that's my hypothetical invention for this week. Um I Thought I would throw that out there.

See what you guys think? Think of that. Okay back to our um our chat here. Looks like I got a little behind here. Reliable.

What's up? Adrian Um, Oh, here we go. Ryan Says why do 80 promises have Louver doors on them versus the flat solid doors on 90 Bonuses: Just something I noticed. Um I think there's a couple reasons for that. Uh, the main reason is in the old days 80 furnaces, they didn't worry about so much.

Uh, when it didn't worry so much about the air intake, you know where it would probably? they were common air in I'm drawing a blank on what that verbiage is, but basically for the combustion would need that air, they would have to open Grades there. whereas the 90 Harvesters they do want you pulling in fresh air. for that, it's a condensing furnace and you're going to pull that air hypothetically from outside. Uh, to pull in there.

And so they want that that cover on that door to be airtight? Um, but I've seen 80 furnaces that have the solid closed doors as well. Um, especially these days. Um, yeah. Arch says our house was built in the early 70s and it's just under 1500 square feet and is not furred out and has large sliding windows.

I Think this might be why three and a half time instead of a three-tone was installed. Yeah, it's very, very possible. You know when they did their heat load calculation they have to account for. you know, if they did one? First of all, Um, they have to account for.

you know, the the lack of of, uh, you know, insulation as well. None of the contractors did a manual Jay you might want to get one. Um, just in case you know, um might be worth it. You might save some money after you get it done properly.

Even if you have to pay for it, you might want to get that done. um Carl says what a Vrf system be more feasible for two stories. We have installed the the Daikin Vrv life in a few houses and and people love them, but it just depends on the scenario. We had a system years ago.

well about a year ago we wanted to do a Vrv light and we ended up I Think we ended up just doing two conventional systems eventually, but we were looking at doing Mini Splits upstairs. we were going to do Erv life and do you know be paired with a gas furnace as well on the first floor. Uh, but it just depends. Every house is different, you know.

Buckeye I think it's the first time I've seen your name on our channel. So welcome in my neighborhood. There were three of us, all of us are in our mid 60s Anyway, we all agree with Goodman furnace and AC units. The guy across the street with the Linux and Montrose Oh yeah, those limits guys.

they'll They'll mock you. They'll make fun of you. Got their nose in the air? Um, those Linux guys, never mock some of the uh, some of the other brands though because if they do, they're they're crazy in my opinion. But we'll get off of that.

I I Personally, this is just me. I I Don't these guys that think Linux is part of the big three I don't think they are I I Now sales may may not reflect that, but I don't see it I think Linux is a maybe a nice rude or York and and shots fired I'll just say it. I I Don't see where what they're bringing to the table. you know I Think that carrier guys could probably name some things that they bring to the table that no one else does I think train can do that training America's standard and I think Daikin can do that I Don't see what Linux does I don't see where they.

that's just me. my personal preference you like Ford Alex Chevrolet That's just that's just me. Ryan says yeah, the um and that the units I Think everybody has their own verbiage. but when people when people say many split cassettes, ceiling cassettes, they're usually talking about the bigger units those four foot units in the ceiling.

whereas the units that I was talking about talking about a moment ago, most of the guys I talked to are called them recessed. Mini Splits It's just a verbid thing. Um, and yeah, Art says a manufacturer representative said that we might need a four ton to replace our three and a half R22 package unit. Is there a heating cooling efficiency difference between three and a half or 22 and a three and a half? Um.

efficiency. Maybe a little bit. Nothing you're going to notice, but a capacity difference? No, you're not getting a three and a half ton system regardless of the refrigerant is going to be a three and a half ton system. Hey Emery Good to see you Carl says the limiting factor probably would be the spacing of the wall studs.

That is very true. Um, but maybe do two fans instead of that big fan that we're used to seeing on side discharge units do some small fans with that recoil. I Don't know, you know I uh I'm gonna argue this one, you know I I think I think it's doable so Emery says we can't hear you is does anybody else agree with Emery Anybody else having trouble hearing beautiful voice of mine? Please let me know. In the comment section, Gary says I Like your idea Josh but the outdoor unit in the exterior wall could be a service man's Horror Show Um I Agree to an extent.

but you know they've got these wall hungry and eye units. Now you know they've got the wall hung ranai water heaters. They've also got the uh, you know the other uh I Worked on one of them about a year and a half ago. when I make this Uh unit where that? it's It also does the refrigerant and stuff too if I remember correctly.

Um, but you know we've seen these Tesla units too where they're I don't know I think it'd be kind of cool to see I think it'd be possible I Think the the real thing against my little invention would be the fact that you're going to remove basically this cavity of where insulation would be so they would have to account for that I think and maybe it would bump out a little bit from exterior wall. I don't know Brian says I like that I'd be worried that it's not sealed properly through the bugs growing. That's true, you know. um, you'd have to definitely have to worry about that.

Are there any old school Geus in your area? I had a one of the Uh Ge units when I first started Griffin area years ago I think it was built in 1968 or something. um I don't know how long it had been sitting there or not working. but I remember taking pictures of that thing thinking man, this thing is old Um, we're gonna be wrapping up here soon guys, so definitely get your questions in. Ryan says why do you think the Vrv Life doesn't have as long of a warranty as Daikin's other high quality products I Thought the Vrv Life did come with a 12 year.

you might be talking about the Sky Air CRV life warranty Maybe I'm Wrong Let me see, let me see. Let me see. Yeah the the Vrv Life comes with a 12. Um now maybe if you install it in a commercial location, maybe that changes.

but the Vrv Life does come with a 12. 12 year warranty. So you might be talking about the Sky Air. and I think this guy air can be uh, more towards the you know commercial stuff.

and and maybe that's why they don't get quite a long of a warranty. Never liked Linux parts were pricey Carl says Arch says I wonder why ICP uses metal hardware cloth like mesh to protect the coils instead of Louver panels. You get hail at least a couple times a year and that's why I won't go with an LCP day and night. Yeah, I mean I think that.

um I think carrier and ICP and all of those with those exposed coils. you know they they want you. If you want a better system to buy their their higher end systems so they they offer their Builder grade and they offer that I mean that is their Builder grade then you can get the what you're describing Louver type outboard Casey and their higher end systems Ryan says yikes I have a Linux I'm hurting here LOL it's I got when I bought the house at least it was the top of the line series of Linux Linux Claimed the fame as their 26th year to unitary AC Yeah, I mean there are guys out there that love Linux So don't you know I'm not the end-all on this. Um, you know there's just as many guys out there that'll bash the brands that I love and um, you know I think God made us all different, right? It's you know.

one of my employees just loves Ford and I've got another employee that just loves Chevrolet and I could just sit back and listen to those guys go at it. and I think eating in air is the same way. so we all have our preferences. Arch says I'll have to see if anyone around here can do a manual J calculation I'm sure somebody can.

um Carl says cool an argument Uh, let's see. Ken I think it's the first time I've seen your name, so welcome our dual heat pumps with that also utilize the furnace in cold weather. Worth the extra money in the Northeast and decide if the Energy savings are worth the extra upfront money and more possible issues. Uh I can't speak for where you're located Ken I Can tell you that where I'm located.

One determining factor that will sometimes play a role in this is what type of gas are you burning? So if you're burning natural gas for the longest time, historically, natural gas has been, you know, uh, a bargain in comparison to other means of heating your home. a lot of those customers will just burn the gas. they don't care. Um where I see customers have say LP gas and sometimes even oil oils.

They might definitely look at a dual fuel system and doing a heat pump so that that way that at least the heat is running on mild days and they're not burning gaps. Um, and they'll still have the LP gas furnace there to run on those cold days. But you know the hope and dream when the gas is more expensive is to save that gas right? Says you mentioned York I got quoted a three and a half ton New York package unit but didn't even consider because of all the negative comments I've read on HVAC forums I I am not a fan of York but um, you know some guys are I know a guy that loves York and he's been selling them for a number of years. He's seen the probably the ups and downs.

Um so I I You know part of my issue with you where I'm located is there's no good suppliers either so it's hard for me to love a brand if I can't even park for it right? I Will usually have to do some hunting around to get parts and such as I meant the unit replacement warranty. sorry why doesn't the Vrv life have the unit replacement um they do of your 12-year replacement compressor says so if the compressor fails uh I'm not sure if that's the unit replacement warranty, but I don't know panel I mean they all come with different warranties I'm sure they have the reasons um, you know, maybe to compete with other uh mint splits they I don't know I mean I don't know uh does Dyken make a gas furnace? Yes, they do. We install them all the time Arch says even Goodman and Reem rude offer lower panels and are comparable to the ICP Yeah, it says propane. So yeah, so that might be a reason you might look at a dual fuel system.

Ken It's in my area, propane can be quite volatile when it comes to pricing. There have been times it's dropped and folks will just flip that thing over to emergency meet and burn it, burn gas like they would have if they didn't even have a heat pump. but um, in a lot of cases they're glad they have the heat pump and they're saving that gas. Make good men, they do now.

So about a decade ago Daikin bought out a Goodman Ryan says the newest York package units don't have the micro Channel coils that people complained about New York sells a manufacturer labor warranty that software don't sometimes. Yes, New York does have some pretty cool warranties I will give them that Um, you know I Don't want to say something inaccurate, but if you look up their warranties, they do have a few things that that you know that only they offer which is kind of cool warranty standpoint. So anyway, uh, we are going to wrap up in just a moment so if you have any more questions, feel free to drop those in there. But yeah.

I um I'm excited about our announcement we made tonight. uh I am gonna be uh oh and I I forgot to tell you guys. So if you're still here and you heard my announcement earlier, let me Let me refresh for anybody that joined us. I Made the announcement that we're going to be going behind the scenes if you will.

At the largest heating and air facility of manufacturing facility in the nation, it's actually the third largest Factory Under One Roof um in the nation only behind Boeing and Tesla So that's pretty cool little bit of of uh trivia for you. All right, we're going to be going behind the scenes on closed doors and going to the die cut factory down in Houston next month. and um, the uh, next little tidbit I'll give you is timeline falls on a Tuesday night so we're going to be going down I think on a Monday it's either Sunday or a Monday and then we'll be there through Wednesday or Thursday I Can't remember but whatever the timeline works out, we are going to be in Houston So I'm bringing all my gear. We're going to have our show like you guys are you guys are.

here on our show and we're gonna have our show in Houston and I Don't know if that will change anything I Don't know if that means maybe we can grab one of those guys to jump on here with us and you guys can ask them questions. Um, live right there on the spot. Um, but you know we are going to be. you know, doing our show right down there.

Uh, just like looks like this, you know we're gonna do our live show right there in Houston So look forward to that. 3 000 says we need a three and a half replacement system. Three and a Half Ton must be the winner tonight. You know we've had several of you say that you're you're having a three and a half ton system replaced so that that must be our winner tonight.

all you guys were three and a half times. We may add six to eight hundred square feet to our home next year. should we get a bigger system like like four ton? Um, three thousand? That is a hard question to ask. I Get homeowners will ask me that all the time and some of the homeowners will even, uh, say yeah.

we plan to add on next year and we've had to make the homeowner put in writing that they're not gonna come back after me if they change their mind. and now their system's oversized so we'll We'll try to talk them out of it. We'll try to say let's go ahead and size it for what you have now and we'll worry about the addition later and they'll say no no I want to go ahead and size it for the Edition I Want to go ahead and upsize it and we'll say well, you're going to be oversized then until then and that can bring a whole nother set of issues. and because of that, we need something writing saying you're not going to come after me because your system's oversized So I don't make them sign their life away, but just just an email in writing that they understand that they are requesting for it to be sized larger what that actual area needs.

So should we get a bigger system I think only you can answer that um I'm not sure I can pronounce this name right? I'm going to say I Stein maybe maybe that's how you pronounce it Easton Einstein says recommend a long lasting condenser and coil five ton or South Texas Heat have a 12 year old carrier R22 now um I would recommend getting three quotes at least and finding a good contractor and going with the brand and system they recommend and will stand behind. That's my answer. Arch says I've seen some of the York package unit roofs and they look like good Yeah, they're not a bad looking system I Mean that that's not our deal here, right? You know? I mean that does play a role in it, right? If you spend all this money you want to, systematic actually looks like you spent the money. Um, and I think one of you guys just pointed out a moment ago I think York got their the biggest dent in their reputation because York was probably the one that went the most all in with the micro Channel stuff.

You know there were a few other brands that went all in a little bit too, but I feel like York was the one that went all in the most and um, they they really especially with 410A and the high pressures that it brought. Unfortunately that kind of dented reputation a little bit. So now that that's a thing of the past, maybe maybe that's something folks should consider and you know and consider them more often. especially a good contractor that's recommending them.

Arch says maybe you can find out if Dyke and package units aren't merely re-badged women units. Maybe maybe maybe Ryan says I don't know how much about the dike and sky or Ftq ducted? How does it compare to the fit? It appears to cost more? Yeah, so we do the Ftq ducted units. Um I don't mess with the sky air stuff a lot. in fact my supplier I don't even think they they stock it.

um the sky air stuff usually Falls in and more of a of a commercial type atmosphere usually. so especially if you go to there now. Have I ever heard of them being in homes? Yes, but I think they're usually geared and and targeting more of a commercial type atmosphere. Um, but we'll do the Fmq air handlers which is pretty much the same thing that pancake air handler.

We've done them a bunch of times and if you pair it with an Aurora unit, they can work really well down to very low temperatures. So um, how does it compare to the fit? Well, it just depends. I mean they do two different things so the fit can be compared. you know, compared with a regular air handler and have a backup heat and things like that.

So it just depends on what you're trying to do. Um, Fdmqs aren't, but so big you're not going to be able to. A man like you would a five-ton fit for example. So it just depends on what you're trying to do.

They both serve their own purpose. Um, again, we're gonna, we're gonna, um, wrap up in just a moment. It looks like we've got a few more questions here. Um, do me a favor.

We end our show the same every week and if you've shared a company before, feel free to share them again wherever you're located. If you know a good Heating and Air company, do me a favor and give them a shout out, share where they're located, who they are, and what area they service if you would like and let's uh, let's do a solid for the the companies that are good out there where they're located and give them a shout out before we wrap up here. So Buckeye says when summer ends, getting ready for Autumn and winter is it wise to cover the condenser to cover and wrap up and keep our our snow and ice. So if you don't use the unit at all so if you have a straight AC don't use it iPad customers that will cover the unit in one way, shape or form I Don't know that it's necessarily going to mean that it lasts longer if it's outside, but um I have I have one particular customer that he he covers it with a fancy looking cover every ear and keeps the leaves out of it.

and it does look newer so more than you know systems of the same age. So Ken says your videos have been so helpful as I searched it to soon replace my still working well 24 year old system. Thank you, thank you again! Hart says I agree with you that Parts availability is important with using a heat pump I I appreciate that Emery says what are the dyking warranties? It depends on which system depends on which system you uh you get. Some of them come with a 12-year Park warranty, some of them come with unit replacement warranties and and uh Some of them come with um you know it just depends on what you what you get there.

um Ryan says ask Dyke if they will release residential heat recovery heat pumps anytime soon I live with someone who has completely body temperature has a completely body temperature than I do hence why I have to keep the temperature so high um Bob what's up sorry I missed the session. We'll watch a rerun. nice Gary says enjoyed this evening as always Josh I'll be here next Tuesday to hang out with you and the Gang again good night Gary um Arch says I wish I could but have it installed yet and terped out says what's a good mini split market right now um I mean I think chirped out I think the the general consensus The Big Three are We could probably argue on who the three third one is, but the big two are probably Mitsubishi and Daikin Um so they both have good products they both have Goods infrastructure Parts availability and contractors that will work on them and you know they both um, have good you know, good um, training and support technical support if there's an issue and so they're probably the big two and then there's kind of everybody else. So there's a lot of Chinese Brands out there being made by the same company different names but um I would say if you're doing Mitsubishi or Daikin in most cases you should be pretty happy.

um in comparison to anyone? So yeah, we're going to wrap up in just a moment guys. Uh, looks like we got one or two more questions here so we'll answer those. But yeah again, if you have any good heating and air companies, wherever they're located in the country, feel free to, to, um, drop their name there and where they're located, give those guys a shout out. Ryan says I would love to be able to keep my zone of the house and Cooling and the other side of the house and heating from the same unit.

sorry about the type that's in my question. yeah I mean I I wonder if that is a thing? I think that price point is is part of it? I Think that you know it would be great to see more mini splits with heat recovery and and that be more of a thing. but I Think that most folks are, you know, not in your boat right? I Think most folks if they want one unit in cooling then they want all the units in cooling. They just gotta walk around and get them all in court with the remote.

But um, but I'm with you. Um, it would be nice if they all had that right. Turped Out says 40 foot line set mini split possible. Yes, it's very possible most money splits can do well over that.

Um, usually somewhere around I Think most of the Daikin units we install I think 65 foot is kind of where we need to look at if it's okay if I need to increase the size, if I need to go on a different unit and so on. Ryan says unlimited residential air Shout out to unlimited Down In Charlotte Good enough. All right guys. Well, we're going to wrap up now.

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