HVAC Package Units vs. Split Systems. Pros and Cons of both.
A few things to consider if you have one and want the other. Or if you're not sure which you should put in your home.
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Hey guys before we get to the video, please click that subscribe button. Thank you: hey guys, joshua griffin, air serving the middle peninsula and the northern neck. Actually, on my way to a call here and wanted to do a quick video talking about package units versus split systems and what i'm talking about is, if you've ever seen those really big units on the outside of a house. They look.

You know three four times bigger than you know a condenser sitting out there and basically it's an all-in-one deal. You know you run your duct out to it and versus having copper line, sets running between the outdoor unit and the indoor unit, whether it be a furnace or an air handler, and so i wanted to do a real, quick video, because i was talking to a Lady - and we were talking about - you - know the pros and cons of each and and there are some pros and cons, but here's the thing every house is different. There is no and that's why they make these two different styles. You know there is no end-all.

You know there's no one particular system that will make every single customer happy with every single home and so because of that um. Let's start with, you know we're going to talk about both, but let's start with package units, and you know with a package unit, you can these days you can come out the the back of the units or you can come out the bottom of the unit. So you know you'll see different applications. I would say in my area the majority.

Now we do have a couple customers. We just did one last week where we came. We it was up on a platform and then we came out the bottom of the unit to run into the ductwork going into the house. But i would say the majority of the systems that package units that we work on in uh, virginia and and more particularly we're working on the coast of virginia, and that is if they have a package unit.

Typically they're, going to come out. The back of the unit there again there's pros and cons. So, let's, let's let's say: let's start with the number one uh thing to think about, and you know i would say it's a con with a package unit and that is that unit. It contains your quote-unquote air handler your fan motor all that stuff to blow the air through there and, of course, your evaporator coil, and that is that unit is exposed to the elements it's sitting outside uh.

It's sitting out there. If it's, if it's really hot or it's really cold it, it would, and in some situations, if you can avoid that, you know if you can have an air handler or a furnace with coil in in the crawl space or attic or in the home itself, and Avoid that that is a good thing you know by default. Most package units are just if you're comparing apples to apples less efficient because of that, but with that said there are times we have a few one. In particular, i could think of one customer in particular where it would not make sense to do a split system, and you know there's a couple of reasons for that: there's there's tight crawl spaces, maybe you just simply don't have the room.
Maybe your crawl space you've had moisture issues. There is no attic, so you don't. You know you can't put it up there or there's not enough room, and you know just situations like that where you know you have to do a package unit and just run the ductwork in. Of course, you know it's done all the time.

I would say, especially these newer houses, where they're having encapsulated crawl spaces, conditioned crawls things like that. I think it's a no-brainer, you know you're getting it out of the attic. You don't have to worry about leaks coming through your ceiling, you're, getting it out of the hot attic in the summer and you're putting it in a space if you were to put it in a condition, crawl space that it doesn't have to fight that battle. It's not sitting outside with the package unit and the elements, but it's also not sitting in the attic where it could be exposed the elements.

So you know those are no-brainers. I feel like. If you have a nice spacious conditioned crawl space no-brainer, that's where, in my opinion, it would make sense even better having it located in the home if there, if they have somewhere in the home, that you could, you could put it. You know in a utility closet or some sort of mechanical room, even better, but you know every house is different, so that would be the first thing i would, i would say just talking about elements, you know the the elements that it would be or would not Be exposed to depending on where it's located, the second thing is efficiencies, so if we just take seer, for example, let's just talk about seer seasonal energy efficiency ratio.

It's currently how a lot of our systems are measured on how efficient they are. The cooling side anyway - and you know i've done other videos and there's other videos on youtube that talk about how sears is disappearing, check out that video i'll put a link to that right up here and and why. That is why it's not necessarily always the best measurement to consider, but with that said, let's just let's use that for for this example and - and i would say, with most manufacturers, most major manufacturers and there's different reasons for this, i would say the number one reason Is market share? You know how much they're selling it, but anyway, most manufacturers don't sell an extremely high seer package unit. They just don't even make it, it's not that they make it, but you don't want to pay for it.

They simply just don't even make it. It doesn't exist with some of the major manufacturers. You know you're looking at 14, 15 16, maybe 17 seer with some brands. I know bosh has a 19 seer and that especially when it came out was like groundbreaking.

You know and, let's be honest, the way the industry's moving the way they're starting to crack down and put more and more regulations on these systems, they're going to have to start making changes. You know just a couple years ago they made them the minimum standard nationwide. 14 seer on heat pumps and i think 13 seer on air conditioners, so that that's something to consider you know if you're looking for a very efficient system, you want to keep that those utility bills down you're, not going to be able to do that with a Package unit, so if you have the choice, it's kind of a no-brainer, because you just simply can't you know if you you're looking at some of these major manufacturers and you're like well, you know i don't want to settle for anything less than 18 seer or i Really want an inverter system because they're more efficient, they don't exist, they simply don't make one because there's not enough demand in the market for them at least that's what i've been told. I've been told by someone.
I'm like you know, i'm competing i'm. You know. I've got another company giving them quotes and, and i'm giving them quotes. Why don't we have you know a system, that's higher efficiency or you know higher seer whatever, and they just simply don't make them.

Because there's not there's not enough demand a lot of these manufacturers. Their package unit sales in comparison to other types of systems. It's a percent, it's a lower percentage. You know you're looking at 10, 20 percent of their sales and they're not seeing enough of a demand for them to engineer and create a higher seer system.

That's a couple of things to think about as you're deciding where you want to locate this system. I think the last thing i'll throw at you is just simply decibels or noise levels of some of the systems just check that out. If, especially, if that's a concern, if the if the outdoor unit is, is going to have to be located near a bedroom or something like that in in your home, that's another thing to consider as you're. You know considering all this, so i i think, there's other variables other things you should consider things.

You should talk to your your contractors about, i would say, a lot of your contractors are going to be able to give you some guidance. Some pros and cons, especially in your market than that i have not touched on those, are, are whether it be they're in a more colder climate or warmer climate. There's always different variables. Uh here in virginia we're mild half of the year and then you know we do have hot days and we have cold days.

So it's kind of all over the place and we've got to consider all that so again, the last thing, i would say is just consider the noise levels. I i can say that i've had a few homes. In fact, the home that i live in had a package unit. When i bought the house, it was on this platform and it went in and i was able to pull all that duct work back into the the crawl space and seal up that hole.

And then one of my guys sears actually installed the air handler inside and we made that work. But you know, every house is different: if you're in our market in the northern neck or middle peninsula of virginia, then give us a call we'd love to earn your business. We'll give you a free estimate, we'll give you the best warranty in the area. If you're, not in our market, if you're, you know somewhere else in the country in the world, and you are looking for a new heating and air system before you spend thousands, you have to check out my new website new hvac and what it is is i Put all kinds of stuff on there that a lot of contractors and manufacturers don't even want you to know, i'm putting it on that website.
I've got a whole page called no nos things to stay away from, and you know things that. Hopefully, the goal, if you were to follow this guide, would provide you with less headaches. Had you not followed the god so check that out i'll put a link to that down below thanks for watching? Please subscribe.

16 thoughts on “Hvac package units vs. split systems. pros and cons of both. all brands, trane, carrier, goodman”
  1. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Pearl Esme says:

    Thoughts on 2.5 ton, American standard silver 14-16? Split unit $6k? My 20 yr rheem died :(.

  2. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Asimo FORD says:

    Still Package units are stronger, more durable and they perform better. Service area Barrhaven??

  3. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Wite Powa says:

    I was quoted $15k for the ComfortMaker 4 ton CCA7, N style evap, and G96 furnace with installation, without duct work. Is this right? I assumed ComfortMaker was the cheapo poor people hvac system? Last year I was quoted $12k for a top of the line Trane XV18 system. Wtf?

  4. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars chrissy betts says:

    Thanks

  5. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars The Next Hobby says:

    In rural areas with old houses, package units remain popular, i.e. necessary in many cases. Ours is about to be serviced … ah who am I kidding they will recommend replacing it. Yesterday we walked outside and heard all of the coolant leaking out in a loud hissssssss.

    The house has a basement but for some reason they did not go with a split system and as a result there’s no furnace. I won’t get into all the ways we’ve had to rig up heating over the years because the heat pump function wasn’t enough … especially because the vents are all in the ceilings.

    Nice video. I’ll check out your site.

  6. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Randy Torboli says:

    I see alot of package ac units in my mobile home park that I live in here in Pennsylvania

  7. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Retired at 49 says:

    We chose a package unit mainly because of noise! We have a small 1700 square foot home that originally came with a air handler in a hallway closet and we just got tired of the noise when it ran. After we had a package unit installed the only way we can tell it's on is if we put our hand in front of a vent. As far as the "seer" ratings go,I for one think they are blown out of proportion. Example….we had a 10 seer unit in a previous home and upgraded to a 19 seer unit. We Honestly didnt see any difference in our utility bills whatsoever. To be even more honest the newer unit seemed to struggle on very hot days were our older unit didn't so…..we considered it a waste of money to be honest. However the way rebates work with electric companies work ,your forced to get the higher seer. The rebate basically covered the difference in price as the higher seer was more expensive. So basically if we had chosen the lower seer unit and skipped the rebate we would have paid the same! I also suspect the lower seer would have cooled better as well!

  8. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars purdeemc says:

    I’m trying to find more knowledge and I just find myself thankful to know what I already know. 😂

  9. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Jennifer Jones says:

    What do you mean by package unit?

  10. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars SERPENT HOLLOW says:

    if i need 3 or 4 splits to cool different rooms of my home . Using a package system instead would it be more economical?

  11. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Min Kim says:

    I have a 20+ year old 3.5 ton Goodman package unit. I don’t think I have the option of getting a split unit because of the layout of my condo. It needs to be replaced this year. Can you recommend a good unit please.

  12. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Garth says:

    I am just curious as i have had all package units. Is a crane required for the install of a split system like package units are? Are you in Nepean ?

  13. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars DizzyDavid says:

    Nice video thanks for your info!

  14. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars macknumber9 says:

    I need to buy a 2 ton package unit and have it installed….ballpark cost for everything…unit cost plus the install labor

  15. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Brian Delaney says:

    My folks in CA had a monster Carrier gas heater in a closet with a swamp cooler on the roof, and they replaced it with a 3-ton Rheem 14 SEER classic package unit back in 2007 on the roof with new duct work, and it has been running great with annual service ever since. It is less noisy than having a condenser next to one's window. That old heater closet? I turned it into a little office for my dad and he loves it! Reads his newspaper on his 27" computer screen. So more interior space (not many basements or true attics in CA), less interior noise, and lastly his condensate drain got clogged, and the overflowing water just leaked onto the roof, which could handle it just fine. In contrast, my neighbor's drain pan cracked in his AC system above his bedroom last week, and the water leaked through the ceiling through his smoke detector! My dad's unit is shaded by a tree's shadow that grows near the unit, so at least during the Summer it is not sitting in direct sun. Far less worries about carbon monoxide with the gas heater completely outside the roof. Does not take up any yard space either. If one is not in snow country, a package unit on the roof seems like a good option. Service area Ottawa??

  16. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars J Colt says:

    Don't see many Package Units in my area in Ohio near the lake. Used to have one at old job though and damn pilot always went on windy very cold days so I hated it, lol. Thanks for video.

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