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Foreign, ah, it's time to chill out and get ready for a mediocre q, a live stream if you're old enough grab yourself your favorite adult beverage and if you're not stick with apple juice, put your feet up and relax. If you have any questions feel free to ask them in the chat and now, let's queue up the intro music, so hello, everybody - hopefully you guys, are all doing well, i'm doing good over here myself, um just another monday right. Luckily, i was able to make it to the actual show. Today it's been kind of busy lately been a little difficult to uh, make it to everything that i want to make it to it's kind of crazy.
But you know i try try as best as i can, but one of the things that i kind of told myself i was going to do at the beginning of the year was, i was going to prioritize my life over the videos and you know try to Focus a little bit more on home life and - and i think i've been doing that, but what i've basically been doing is given the opportunity. If something comes up, i'm trying to put like maybe posting a video on pause or you know, doing a live stream and put it on pause, just to be able to take some time and hang out with the family and just relax. Because i felt that last year i was like super swamped and and of course i i love making the videos and i'll never stop doing that. But i've just been trying to put you know myself, just a little bit higher on the pedestal, just to make sure that you know i focus on what's important too, and that's the family right so, but yeah today was a good day mike b, so family.
First, that's right: i'm trying to make family first, i'm gon na, be honest with you guys, though i struggle. I really do because i have a hyper obsessive, like focus when i you know like when i get interested in something you know i just i just focus so in depth and even even during family time. Like you know, um i'll go watch a movie, for instance, and i get so hyper focused on that that i i just can't hear anything else and - and you know it's it's kind of crazy. So yeah, i don't know it's it's a issue in my head.
I got all kinds of those you know. I just keep unwrapping more and more of them. I'm sure you guys do too, but you know i think it is very important for us to acknowledge the fact that we are all human and we are not perfect. We all have mental issues, joe t thanks so much for becoming a channel supporter.
That is amazing. I'm super humbled by everybody's support, whether it be just simply watching the videos or financially by becoming a channel member. You know going to my website hvacrvideos.com, you know it's. It's i'm super thankful for a lot of that stuff, but but anyways back to the prioritizing things you know i try to.
You know, spend as much time like a fair amount of time on the videos and the family stuff. So yeah. You know it is what it is, i'm trying to be the best person that i can be so lots of cool topics that i want to cover tonight. I've invited a few people like uh. When i say i invited people so usually my my process of getting ready for the live streams is i start going through youtube comments, start going through emails um. You know i start going through facebook messages and and trying to consolidate questions that that um, i get repetitively you know like over and over, but then also that i think, would be good topics to cover. Sometimes i even just follow social media posts and when i find those i will email those people and say hey, i'm going to talk about this on my live stream tonight. So i could that's what i call inviting people over to the stream.
So i'm sure we got some of them in the chat right now, um, you know, there's some really good discussions in some of the facebook groups this last week that that you know i wanted to really chime in on, because there was some really cool back and Forth discussions and not arguments, but i love these kind of discussions when people don't agree but they're just talking to each other and they're asking questions and they're growing and they're learning like those are the kind of discussions that i like and i've come across. A few of them and uh, i want to talk about them tonight too. So, let's see what else uh as usual guys. I have um uh uh.
If you guys have questions that you want me to cover. If you have things you want me to talk about, it is kind of difficult but post it in the chat and put it all in caps, lock. That helps me to be able to see it. Okay, but oftentimes, there's so much going on in here.
It's hard for me to catch up with them. So if i miss your guys's questions feel free to send me an email to hvacr videos, gmail.com, okay, but remember if you guys have questions or things you want me to talk about, put them in caps, lock in the chat: okay, uh, bose gaming. Thanks again, awesome man thanks so much for becoming a channel supporter. It's really awesome so um.
The first thing that i wanted to talk about when i do see a bunch of friends in the chat: uh brett wetzel from advanced refrigeration, podcast, jason laska, chris anderson, mike b, joe t, there's a lot of people in here. It's it's really cool. I i appreciate seeing everybody all the supporters and if i didn't mention your name, i'm sorry there's a lot of you in there right now so um. So there was a really interesting discussion on the school group and i think it was yesterday and i kind of wanted to cover it, because i see this discussion and all the different social media groups that i'm in come up quite often and there's so much misinformation Out there, okay, don't just trust what i say do your research, but you need to find multiple sources that validate your conclusion.
Okay, going to simply the supply house and listening to what they have to tell you can sometimes be misleading. Okay and i'll explain that story here right now, so the discussion this week was about changing a line set and uh that i saw yesterday was about changing a line set of a system that was r22 with mineral oil to a system that is 14a with polyester Oil and the question was: how do i properly clean this line set i'm paraphrasing and it was something along the lines of um. You know. Uh, do i use an additive and the person was skeptical about using an additive, and the responses were really interesting, because a lot of the responses were change. The lines that you're a hack, if you don't or don't worry about it or add an acid flush or you know all these different things and while there's truth in some of those, there is no reason to have to change a line set specifically based on the Fact that you're changing the refrigerant or it has different oil and i'm being careful when i say that, because if you're changing to uh, you know and we need different line sizes for oil return and stuff. That's one thing, but the point i'm trying to make right now is just because you had mineral oil and you're changing over to polyester oil does not necessarily mean that you have to change the line set. Okay, so there's a lot of other reasons why you might have to change the line set, maybe it's just practical to think: there's going to be a leak or proper refrigerant, velocity or whatever. Those are all valid reasons, but the reason that, simply because you're changing from one oil to another does not necessarily mean that you have to change the line set: okay, clean the line set out as much as possible all right now, personally, i i'm not an expert In this, but personally i don't like using additives, never have well.
No, i take that back. I did in the beginning of my career use additives all the time, but i personally don't like using additives. I don't like adding flushes uh. I personally have come to the conclusion that if it didn't come in the compressor from the factory, i'm not gon na add it to the system.
I understand oil changes, but i'm saying additives, okay and what a lot of people out there don't understand is how difficult it is so extremely difficult and so extremely expensive to get something approved by copeland to be used in one of their compressors. Okay for copeland to stamp on something to say that it is completely approved. You have to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars. Sometimes it's insane.
Okay, most people don't want to spend that money and they make false claims. Now. There's other manufacturers, besides copeland, but if you are changing just simply the oil you want to try to get as much of that oil out of the system as possible. Okay, but polyester oil and mineral oil mixing is not going to make the system explode now.
Of course, you don't want to have large amounts of oil, but if you had trace amounts of mineral oil and you're putting it to polyester, it's not a big deal. Okay, there's so much overhype about that same thing with refrigerant gauges. Okay, you don't need seven different sets of refrigerant gauges in your van just because you work with different oils. Okay, that's a myth. Okay, it's not what it's made out to be on the simple fact of them just mixing now, there's other reasons why you may not want to have or why you may want to have separate gauges, but i'm talking about oil in general, okay, so one of the Biggest things is a lot of the new refrigerants. Do not carry the oil very well with it like mineral oil used to with r22 okay, mineral oil, traveled really well with r22. It doesn't do so well uh or with some of the newer refrigerants mineral oil. Doesn't really travel with the refrigerant very well there, therefore, you don't get lubrication proper, lubrication and or if the oil was to leave the compressor.
It has a hard time coming back to the compressor. Okay. So with that being said, you want to try to use the proper oil with the newer refrigerants for sure. Okay, you have let's just use 407c.
For example, a lot of different manufacturers make that it works with polyester oil. Now, yes, i know: there's some people out there that say: yeah i've used it with for with mineral oil for years, and it works fine. I'm sure that there's some certain stance or circumstances where it will work, but you want to make sure you try to follow. Oem manufacturer's specifications as much as possible.
Okay, so if you're using any of the newer um refrigerants the h or is it hfos, i think, is what they are yeah hfo. You know you, don't you want to make sure that you're using the proper oil now there's several different hfcs there you go, there's several different uh additive manufacturers that have a lot of misleading information. Okay, let me let me any additive. Uh leak, detector, fluid or leak sealer die all these different things.
They have a lot of misleading information on the packaging. Almost every one of them does it and they'll have some phrasing on there that says, oem approved or manufacturer, approved. Okay, that is such a stupid term, and it is so misleading what manufacturer approved it? Okay, just because it's an oem that doesn't mean it was an air conditioner company. It could that that's such a general uh, you know thing, it doesn't make sense.
Okay, if they wanted to tell you that copeland approved it, then they would put copeland approved on there. But another interesting thing about copeland approvals too. Okay - and this goes for all other manufacturers too, just because copeland approves an oil or refrigerant or whatever for a certain application, does not mean it's a blanket approval all the way across the board. It may be approved for use in a chiller right, but it's not approved for use in ultra low temps or low temps or medium temps.
Okay, so don't let the manufacturers mislead us and don't let miss information spread on the internet if it sounds too good to be true, it's not true! Okay, if these manufacturers say you don't need to do these oil changes or this kind of stuff be very leery of that. Okay, always lean on the manufacture of the compressor to find out what they approve to be in their compressor, because they're looking out for their best interests, they want their product to succeed, so they're the person to trust when it comes to adding weird additives and different Things to your systems, let me see what we got going on in the chat: real, quick um, i'm just i'm just looking to see what i missed in here, not seen anything as of yet that's too important. Okay, cool um, all right cool right on so yeah. Just be cautious about that, but yes, you don't necessarily have to just change the line set because you're changing the refrigerant or the oil there's a lot of variables. That would make you change the line set like i started out with refrigerant velocity. You know proper btus and different things like that. Okay, but just on the fact of the oil you do not necessarily have to change the line set. Now i'm not going out there saying i never change line sets whenever possible.
I change the line set, but i don't do it because of the oil. I typically do it because it's installed in a crappy condition and it's very corroded or pitted - and it's going to lead to a failure soon and it's easier when you're doing an installation to change a line set so i'll usually bring that to the customer and let Them make that decision, but i'm i'm not doing it simply because we're changing the oils over okay. Now, if you have large traps places where there could be oil trap, yes, that could become a problem. So in general terms, you don't have to do it just because now, if you're changing the line set because there's weird traps in it that you can't access and different stuff like that, that totally makes sense.
Okay, so just be cautious about oem approved, because that is such a misleading claim. Such a misleading, so um mike had uh emailed me today, and he asked me about and mike is uh what sounds to be a homeowner and that's fine. I have no problem answering homeowner questions. I have no problem answering business owner questions whenever possible, so mike emailed me with a really cool good question mike and i'm gon na have some opinions about this, and you can go with this.
Okay, so mike has a portable air conditioner. You know the type that is on wheels and it has a little hose that you push out a window okay and he's starting to notice that he's getting really musty smell coming out of the air conditioner. That is a very, very common thing, mike okay, what is actually happening is you more than likely have bacteria growth inside of there, that bacteria growth is having a chemical reaction and that's the smell you're, getting mildew different things like that? Okay, so um now here's the biggest thing: okay number one: why do you have that bacterial growth? Okay? If you have that bacterial growth there's some sort of conditions that are leading to that unhealthy air? Typically um or uh, mold milk, or you know that kind of stuff somewhere else in the house and it's traveling and building up in cool damp places. Okay, so you want to investigate why that's even there in the first place, is it just crappy air who knows? Okay, the next thing is is once you have that bacteria build up in air conditioning ducts, typically certain ones. If they're metal ducts, it can be cleaned, sometimes oftentimes, not always but oftentimes. It can be cleaned and taken care of. But when it comes to a portable air, conditioner or a window air conditioner, if you've ever taken a window, air conditioner apart or a portable air conditioner apart, obviously they're made to be very inexpensive. Okay, they want them to be super effective and one of the ways that they make them very inexpensive.
The 98 deville. Thank you very much for that super chat. Please smash the thumbs up button guys so one of the ways that these manufacturers of these portable air conditioners and these window air conditioners save money, is by reducing the weight and using less material. So they use styrofoam oftentimes as a duct or a baffle or a way to channel air to certain areas inside the window or the portable air.
Conditioner styrofoam is a very porous material and if you get bacteria build up mold and different things inside a styrofoam, it can be difficult to clean okay. So in a perfect world, if you ask me the question: how do you get rid of that smell? How do you you, you can try to clean your air conditioner, but the best way in all honesty is you're. Probably gon na have to get rid of the air conditioner. Okay, if it's one of those portable ones, because that bacteria is going to be almost impossible to make completely disappear with the porous styrofoams that they use to channel the air in those units.
Okay and you need to solve whatever the the air quality issue is, so that way, you don't have it continuing to build, and if you have it building there remember the bacteria and the mold and different things they travel to cool damp places. Okay, so it's just going to where it can thrive and multiply and that's in the cool damp place, but it's coming from somewhere else, you're breathing that air in you want to eliminate that problem. Okay, now there is chemical cleaners out there, and you are in not in the united states is what he told me, but in the united states, refrigeration technologies make some really great chemicals that can help to kill and break down bacteria and different things like that. In the european countries, i'm sorry i don't know any of the brands, but just look up air conditioning cleaners. You know i'm sure you can find them local suppliers different things like that: okay um. So as far as a small portable air conditioner, i mean you know: you're gon na go through all kinds of crazy stuff, you're better off getting rid of it. Solving the air quality issue, then using it again in my opinion, okay, so hopefully that answers your question for you, but um i'll check out the chat here in just a second. Let me cross off some questions.
I have a list in front of me and i usually go over everything and i just want to make sure i get to okay. I already asked that question too. Let me look at the chat, see what i'm missing in here um. Let me see what we got: um hamilton mechanical.
Yes, he said they're not made to be taken apart. That is absolutely true window air conditioners and portable air conditioners, they're simply not made to be taken apart. So they're meant to be thrown away. Uh mario perez asks in a restaurant.
How would you check building pressure ac on or off? Oh good question, mario okay? So, let's, let's i'm not gon na, give you the answer. I'm gon na lead you to the answer. Okay, so think of a building as a paper bag simplest forms. Okay, you have a paper bag, you put it over your mouth, you get it tight and you inhale.
The bag starts to collapse. You inhale enough: if your lungs can pull in that much oxygen and air, we should call it not necessarily oxygen. Then the bag will collapse completely. Okay, but let's do the same experiment.
If you cut a small hole in the back, as you start to inhale, it's gon na start to ripple a little bit, but less air is gon na. It's gon na take longer to collapse, and then, once you make the hole big enough, the air will pass right through the back. The building as a whole is a system. Okay, the exhaust fans, the air conditioning uh.
They all work together: okay, the ventilation too. Okay. So they all work together. So if you're testing air balance, you want your indoor blower motors to be on, you want your air conditioners to be in occupied mode.
You want your outdoor air, dampers or economizer dampers to be in their normal operating position. So that way you can test the true building balance. Okay, then, you can start adjusting economizer's clothes to test different things, but you do want your air conditioners. Moving air, okay, oftentimes, most air conditioners, especially in commercial restaurant settings.
They pull air from outside into the building through the air conditioners too, along with pulling it in through the makeup air. So you want all that stuff on and running now you don't necessarily have to have the cooling running per se or the heating running per se, but you want the indoor fans running and you want the outside air dampers in their normal operating positions. You want every exhaust fan running and you want all the building doors shut. So that way you can get a baseline of your air balance and you can adjust accordingly. So hopefully that answers your question for you, but um. Let's see, how would you solve condensation issues in a restaurant specifically on the vents, mr green, i would start addressing why you're having condensation? Is it condensation, that's making its way from the drain pan up on the roof? Is it condensation simply because of the dew point and the temperature of the air? Okay, because you know you could be condensating or condensing uh, moisture on your vents simply because of building conditions too? Okay, so it really depends on what the humidity is in the building. Uh and and what temperature the air is coming out of the ducts, that's where you're really going to start to want to pay attention to if it's just air, that's condensing on the vents! Okay! Now, if it's condensation on the roof, of course, or you know from a drain pan then yeah, you want to clean that out blow it out, whatever get it draining properly um. Is it safe to wash rtu coils while the unit is running with water? No, it is absolutely 100 not safe to wash condenser coils, while equipment is energized and or running.
No, there's no way that i can tell you that it's safe okay um that uh will thank you for continuing to be a supporter. You've been a supporter for a long time. Will i appreciate you but um? I don't know why it says one month but um uh, but anyways uh. No, you do not want to wash air conditioners with water running okay, just because the fans not running does not mean there's not electricity running in those wires oftentimes on air conditioning equipment.
We will have single phase motor motors that have one leg of power, always uh. You know going to the motor okay, so um they will only break one leg, sometimes depending on the equipment, so you have a potential of getting electrocuted. So no do not wash equipment with water running uh. Let's see what else we got going on here.
Have i heard uh of compressors that operate at hotter temperatures as it gets older? Uh, frank, j, f, guan. Well, i mean yeah, that's that's a pretty um, pretty simple answer and that's yes, as as compressors typically will get older. Yes, they will tend to start to run hotter, especially as the efficiency of the equipment drops off the life of the compressor as it starts to break in. Of course, temperatures will potentially start to go up, but there will be repercussions to those temperatures that start to go up for sure.
Okay, um, let me see yeah. We should come up with chips, huh guys for the supporters. We should come up with like uh. I've been a supporter for this many years or something like that or this many months we should do that that'd be pretty cool.
Uh does superheat affect overall performance. You have high super heat bacon bits, let's think about what's happening when you have high super heat versus less super or lower superheat. Okay, um superheat in general. Okay is one of the main things that the temperature of the refrigerant coming back is one of the main things that is going to help to cool the compressor off that way, the windings don't overheat and potentially cause a catastrophic damage. Okay, so the lower the superheat, the colder, the gas coming back to the compressor, the higher the superheat, the higher temperature of gas coming back to the compressor? Okay, so that's very important that we control the level of superheat so that we would protect our compressor um. So and yes, it will completely protect overall performance. The compressor is the lifeblood, the heart of the system, if the compressor's not working the system's, not working. Okay, do i like to use one brand of vacuum, pump oil oil or have i not noticed a difference between brands perez fl me personally, i have not noticed a difference between vacuum pump.
Oil brands. Now, i'm sure field piece uh, you know, has a reason why they want you to use their vacuum pump oil, but i have used other vacuum pump oil in their vacuum pumps for years and there's no specific information saying that you have to use just theirs: okay, But everybody's going to do something different to their oil to make it different than the other guy's oil me. Personally, i use what i get at my local supply house. They happen to have the jb vacuum pump oil, so i just grab those and i really appreciate that the the jb oil comes in the tiny, little uh containers so that way for my field piece pump, it barely takes any oil, so it really makes it efficient To not have to buy a giant court, you know and go through it completely so um i wanted to talk about something you know we are not perfect.
I am not perfect, nor will i ever be perfect. I'm not claiming to be anything of the sort. Okay, um, the best that i can do. The best that you can do is try your hardest to be perfect, but also understand you're.
Never going to achieve perfection, i mean there's always going to be flaws. We're humans, that's what we do. We are flawed, okay, but in my opinion, it's how we overcome those flaws, or at least try to not make the same mistakes so that we don't have those issues. Okay, so i am not perfect, but i can only try to do my best.
Okay, that that's. I think that's important with anything in life is to assume that it's taken me a long time when i was a teenager. I thought i was perfect. Okay, um, you know i i knew uh.
I was working with my dad at the time or i was starting to work with him and i knew how to run his company. I knew what he needed to do to make it operate better, but boy was i humbled when i got older and got experience and learned how hard it was to run a business, and now i'm running more than i ever have, and it's overwhelming right and - and I realized that i once thought i was perfect, but i wasn't okay, i wasn't at all um, let's see what else uh radical gaming nerd. Thank you so very much for continuing to be a supporter man. That is awesome ike. I really appreciate you bud. You are amazing: ike has always been a good friend of mine. Ike also made a discord server for me. Honestly, i don't go to the discord server very often i wish i had more time to do so, but there's a good group of people in that discord.
Server, so if you guys are interested in the discord server, i always screw this up. So i'm not going to do this. The wrong way shoot me an email, put discord in the title and i'll make sure to get you the link, because it is a private server. You do have to go through an acceptance process, so shoot me an email type, discord in the subject line and i'll make sure to get you the proper discord link.
If you any of you, are interested in checking it out, it's basically just a giant heavily moderated chat room where people get to talk about different things, and it's not just specifically hvac, there's different rooms and different things in there. So it's pretty cool little thing. It's just hard for me to focus anything more on it, but definitely shoot me. An email, hvacr, videos, gmail.com and i'll get you a link to that discord.
Server. Okay, um! All right! Let me see all right um. Lately, i've been doing this a little bit more and more, and i don't want people to think that i i'm above anybody or anything like that, but with my customers - and i think i've been expressing more in my videos too, about it um. Actually, i'm gon na step that back and come back to that, something that i have been doing more and more in my videos - and i will continue to do because it does make me feel like a better person, is to be real, okay showing more real stuff.
Okay, yes, i know this is an hvac channel, but you know what this is more than an hvac channel and the message that i want to get out to people is that i'm a person that happens to work in hvac. So if people are following me, they're going to get a little bit about me too, so, yes, i will post occasionally on my social media platforms that i'm going out to dinner with my family and i'm amazed that i actually got to have lunch. You know this last weekend, i i'm going to show more emotion and different things like that for sure, and that's just going to continue to happen. So no offense, if you don't want that kind of content, if you strictly want just boom boom boom boom boom education.
No humility, no anything, i'm sure, there's many other platforms that are amazing, it's just not where i'm going. I try to show as much about me as possible radical gaming nerd thanks so much for that super chat. I will get to that question here in a second. So this last weekend i was able to uh.
My youngest daughter went and stayed at a friend's house for a sleepover, and so it was my my teenage daughter and my wife and myself and my wife and myself decided. We wanted to go to um to lunch. You know, actually we wanted to go to a a actually. We want to go to lunch, yeah and so uh. We had asked my daughter, and normally my teenager says no, because she's always studying and doing different stuff so, but she actually said yes. So for me it was a milestone, because i got to go out to lunch with my teenager, it's funny as they get older and older. They get further and further away, and then, on top of that, she even went to a baseball game with me. That night, like that, was a a dad win right there.
So my wife, my teenage daughter and myself got to go to a baseball game and out to lunch. So it's the little things that make it tolerable right because i enjoy hvac, but i also enjoy my family. So the little things just really do help out. Okay, so i'm gon na continue to show that stuff.
If you guys have problems, no offense move on. It's all good, okay, um, so uh. What are the pros and cons of an apprenticeship versus a trade college you're at a block at which you're questioning, which one should you do? Okay? So i cannot 100 answer that question for you, but i'm gon na give you some feedback on it. Okay, because it really depends on your needs and the education and the value you would get from either choice.
Okay, assuming from the type of your question you have, you have an apprenticeship, i'm assuming with a union is what you mean and then you have the trade school route. Okay, because i have an apprentice working under me, but i'm not a union person, but typically the apprenticeship process is kind of thought of as just a union thing. Okay, so an apprenticeship in general, in my opinion, is a very important thing and i think, should coincide with trade college. Okay now, obviously, trade colleges can be good and bad too, depending on the school.
So you need to read the reviews, so i hate to make your question even harder to answer, but you need to do some more research to find out which one better fits you now, if you're going into a union job. Typically, you go into an apprenticeship program where you work and you go to school simultaneously and you agree to a a a pretty good pace: pay level while you're going to school okay. So that sounds like a pretty good deal. If the unions are strong in your area and that's the route you want to go or you go to trade school now, there's also - and you may have been talking about this too - there could just be on-the-job training and i think on-the-job training is good, but i Think on-the-job training should also include you going to night school.
That's how i have done it in the past with people i've put people through school because i hired them with no experience and what i would typically do is they would work a full day with me and then i would pay well. Let me say this: then they would go to night school two to three days a week and they would learn while they were at school night school now um, and then they would come back to work the next day. That was a really good way that we did it because they get fundamentals and different um explanations on how things work. For me, i'm the type of person that i need multiple sources to learn. So i hear a little bit from here a little bit from here and then all of a sudden, this right here puts it together and it clicks or the next time it could be this or this. So i like multiple sources of knowledge, so i don't have the answer for you bud, but on the job training, no matter what you go should be part of your education should be part of your process and or a proper apprenticeship, okay, so um. I hope i didn't confuse the heck out of you on that one uh jermaine g. Thank you so very much for that super chat.
That was very amazing, i'm very humbled by that: okay um oxnard shores. 805.. Thank you very, very much man. If you move to riverside, can you work for me oxnard shores? Uh? Let's talk man send me an email, okay, i'm not gon na commit to anything, but i'd be willing to talk for sure.
So uh, let's see what else we got in here, um, i'm probably missing a lot in the chat guys. If i miss your stuff shoot me an email, hvacr videos, gmail.com um, so anyways with prioritizing things. What i started out that little rant that i went off on was: i have been showing a lot more of myself and my videos, and also showing my frustrations in hopes that you guys learn from them, whether it be good or bad. Okay and i have been expressing frustration at some of my customers - okay now, yes, i know i should never let my customers see me being frustrated with them.
I know that it's not professional to show that stuff right. I get it and i get it that my customer can watch these videos and potentially see it on a video, but at the same time maybe you're, not my customer - and maybe you can learn from this too. So i'm very calculated about what i do share about. Frustrations and different things, i typically share a frustration when i think it might be shared by many people or when i think someone might learn something from that frustration.
Okay, so, yes, i am going to continue to show frustrations and show when i'm fed up with a customer or when i decide you know what i'll say in a video remark like hey, i'm not coming back out here this weekend, because you're not approving this particular Thing now you know kind of like a threat like if this goes down again, i'm not coming out until monday. You know like yes, i will do that sometimes now it's not something i'm going to do all the time, and i'm also going to tell you guys as employees of companies. That's never something you want to do. I'm the owner.
I can make those decisions. Okay, you always want to lead on management or the owner of the company to make big decisions on when you're going to tell a customer a certain thing or not. Okay, i do want to kind of cover real quick. You know something i covered in my recent video about quality control. It is happening everywhere, the lack thereof, quality control, okay, that was uh social media uh people were talking about it on social media, a lot lately, and then i made a video showing exhaust fans that weren't put together properly. It's pretty stupid what they were missing. You know, but it's happening more and more and unfortunately i don't think it's going to get any better. It's probably going to get worse before it starts to get better okay, so that just means that guess what - and while it frustrates me that means that even i am learning from this right.
The next time i bid exhaust fans, i'm gon na - put a little extra money in there, because i know that i'm gon na have to fix some extra things. If you're, quoting things not assuming that you're gon na have to do a proper startup and test every set screw and every wire connection right uh. Well, maybe we need to start quoting appropriately to be able to do that. Okay, you remember there's a reason why we have startup technicians.
Okay, especially when you get into heavy commercial industrial stuff, you will have equipment installed and then it'll sit there for a week, while it's waiting for a startup technician that is very qualified in what he knows. That particular piece of equipment oftentimes, they will work specifically for the manufacture of that equipment and they will come out and do a manufacturer's startup where they test every component. They test wire connections they test to make sure that they didn't have any quality control issues. Okay, we don't see that on the smaller level as much very you know very often, but um we're gon na have to start quoting for that kind of quality control.
On our end, if we're selling or installing and starting up equipment, we're gon na have to spend more time. So i learned that this has been happening. You know two three times in the last couple months, it's time for me to start appropriately, quoting for these issues. So that way i can fix them and i'm not losing money.
On my install right, oh see what i'm missing, uh, refrigeration, technology's, yellow coil cleaner is micro channel safe. Yes, it is i'm assuming someone is asking about that. Um! Yes, refrigeration technologies is uh or the the yellow venom pack. Okay, i should probably have some of those chemicals in here, but the yellow venom pack is micro, channel aluminum, safe, okay, let's just step back to the process that happens when you put uh the blue coil cleaner on a condenser coil, okay, the blue coil, cleaner made By several different brands, you know the smell, you know what it does. Refrigeration technologies even makes one, they call it brightener and that's exactly what it is. Okay, we all use it as a cleaner, but it's technically a brightener and the reason why it's a brightener is because of the chemical reaction that um, the liquid in the coil cleaner right has with the metals okay, the typical blue cleaners are not aluminum safe and Even on uh steel, condensers they're, not necessarily safe, now on aluminum, the effect that happens when you take that blue brightener cleaner and you spray it on the coil and it foams up and then instantly that coil is shiny. Well, it didn't clean as much as it stripped. Okay, that cleaner has a chemical reaction and it etches the coil.
It takes the top layer of the coil off okay, let's step back, the statue of liberty is green right, but the statue of liberty actually isn't green. The statue of liberty is copper, okay, but it's that green color because of the chemical reaction that's happening between the salt in the water around it and the copper okay. It's a chemical reaction. When i was a kid i used to take ketchup, someone told me if you took ketchup and you put it on a penny, and you came back a couple hours later and wipe the ketchum off the penny would be all clean and shiny.
It's not that it's clean, it's that it ate the top layer of the penny off the acids. The the the vinegars in the ketchup actually eat away at the top layer of the penny. Okay, so be cautious about the chemicals that you use, the yellow venom pack from refrigeration technologies is aluminum safe. It is micro, channel safe, it's not going to eat away at the coil.
The only real issues you're going to have with the yellow cleaner is, if you put too much of it and you don't wash it off, it's gon na create a bubble party. Why? Because it's soap and water, okay, but it's just a special mixture of soap that has a great reaction with greases and dirts and different things: okay, but it's not gon na eat the coil away so always be cautious, but yeah. The yellow venom pack is a great choice for cleaning micro channels. Your supply house does not carry refrigeration technologies other than the viper in the can might be.
I have the same issue because one of my main refrigeration supply houses hasn't been carrying it. So you know what, as a company, i've been buying it from trutech tools, because truetech tools gives you free shipping over like a certain amount. So when you buy in bulk and buy a bunch of the cleaner two three cases at a time i mean you know, then it's free shipping most of the time so check it out man. I i buy a lot from true tech tools.
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Let me see what else we got going on here. How can you prevent grease buildup on a condenser when there's an exhaust fan? Next to it? Mr green, you really can't that's a very stupid, install or installation place for an exhaust fan. I have several of them out there, where exhaust fans are right next to them, and the acs are micro, channel condensers and it's just a pain in the butt to keep them clean. It just really is: sometimes you can install baffles and different things, but inevitably that grease is going to make it there um, let's see uh using ketchup as a coil brightener, now see there, you go brett, you better, not be making any videos using ketchup as a Coil, cleaner man, okay, um, that that wouldn't be nice stealing my cool ideas like that, hey guess what guys i talked about this on the hvac overtime show. I don't think i've had a chance to talk about it on my channel. So all the way back at the um hvacr training symposium, i was gifted some really cool tools right, an old raygun, looking leak, detector and different things like that, and it started a little something within a few of us content creators. I know brett kind of got in on it a little bit too, but i started kind of really liking these old tools right, so i started doing some internet research and i bought a cool air conditioning manual and i like from the 1930s - and i thought it Was really cool until i found the coolest tool that i've had so far, these are really really old tools. Okay, guys, let me introduce to you my new portable current tester.
This is a portable 15 pound wooden box with a leather handle that made it portable that actually broke off so got to get that fixed. This is one of the very first, if not the first current testers, for air conditioning or for electricity. This is for measuring dc current. This is a western voltmeter and it measures dc current uh.
Let's see there is a patent date on this from 1888. That does not necessarily mean this one's from 1888. That just means the design was patented in 1888. Okay, there is a looks to be a calibration date on here of 1905, but this right here is a 15 pound current tester.
I found it on ebay for 30 bucks 25 bucks to be exact, and i think i paid 25 to have it shipped. I think this is one of the coolest tools that i have come across on the internet and it has just furthered my obsession with old hvac tools. This one right here, whether i don't even know if it works, i don't even know how to tell if it works. This is an awesome, in my opinion, uh bookshelf in whatever you want to call it thing to sit and just check out, because it is amazing.
I would love to find someone that can actually refurbish this for me because it is so cool. Looking see what else we got in here, ah see what else we got um, i'm looking through the chat right now see what else send that to mr carlson's lab for restoration, teddy tiger or teddy tiger. I have no idea who that is. Do me a favor. Send me an email, i'm sure, that's a content creator of some sort, and maybe we can do a collaboration or something like that. So send me an email to hvacr videos gmail.com. If you have any information hey - and i want to address that too. You know this channel is successful, um partially because of me, but partially because of you guys that are watching this channel and as many people have done in the past, if you can help out the channel in general in any way, please, you know share share with People, if you, if you think that it'd be cool, if i did a collaboration with someone or something like that, shoot me an email.
Okay share. My information share it with other people that you think might be interested in this content, because you know i. I have a lot of plans in the future and i'd like to get to those plans sooner where i can spend more of my time focusing on video stuff and less on my other business, but i got ta. I got a lot of work to get to that point, but it would be nice to get there sooner so um.
Let me see what else we got here. Let's see joe t, you see stickers, you actually do have stickers. I just honestly, i have a bunch of them and i just haven't had a chance to get them put up on the website um. They will be eventually they're just sitting there, because i was trying to figure out how to take pictures of them.
That's something i need help with too is just simple things like the website and stuff. So um. Let me see what else uh no edward. It does not do dc frequency bummer.
It's not that cool. Okay, it's it's! It's the lower model. Okay, i'm sorry! Um five year, resi tech. How do i self educate apply for a low temp restaurant jobs which job title should you be shooting for thanks metal mosh? Let me ask another one: let me kind of lump that in okay, i'm going to answer that with some other questions too so um joshua has got his first hvac job and he wants to know.
If i have any advice, all right and then brandon's company is going to start doing commercial service from rezzy and go into like commercial restaurant kind of stuff, if i'm paraphrasing correctly, okay um. So i want to kind of cover these in general as a technician. If you want to better yourself period, okay, pay attention know when to ask questions and do a lot of research. Okay, especially new people coming into the trade, you go work a full day.
You learn you pay attention, you listen! Even if you're, not absorbing everything, pay attention, ask as many questions as you safely can without annoying people right and bothering them from keeping them from doing their work, but then also take lots of pictures. If you can safely do so without getting in trouble. Government facilities different things like that, you can't take pictures um certain churches, too, that's a whole other thing. I i almost had to go work at scientology temple, one time that was a really interesting one. We'll have to tell that story, maybe on the overtime show but um. I didn't, though, but anyways um when it comes to that stuff. When you work take lots of pictures when you go home, start researching start writing things down, carry a notepad, take notes on your phone when you get home, that's when you're, even gon na start working harder, because you're gon na sit down at the google and you're Gon na start asking a lot of questions and doing a lot of research. Okay, that's one way you can better yourself! Um, let's see uh joshua, you know he same thing with joshua.
Joshua is focus on learning, more research, the heck out of everything, the only person responsible for your education. It's not your employer. It's not your teacher at school they're, not responsible for your education right they're, not they're, giving you tools, so you can learn so you're responsible for your education. You need to take it in your hands and stop waiting.
I heard my buddy trevor matthews at the refrigeration mentor podcast. He started up uh, actually, refrigeration, mentor, podcast, that's right. He started a new podcast, and that was one of the things he was saying is you know, don't wait for someone to pay for your education right now, there's times when your employer might help you or something but don't hold back, because you think they should pay For it, because guess what, when you leave that company, that knowledge is yours to keep it's what you do with that knowledge, so it's yours, so don't be afraid to pay for education to better yourself, because if you educate yourself then potentially you can make more money Right you've gone to bigger, better opportunities, so um. Hopefully i answer the questions in there, but in general um you want to make sure that you're trying to help yourself also you should be the number one person trying to help yourself.
Okay, don't play the pity games. Oh, it's i'm always the loser, everybody, it's always everybody else's fault. That just simply means it's your fault. If you're a person that is saying, oh my life sucks, this always happens you're, bringing that on yourself, okay, get a positive mindset, change things make yourself better.
The first thing i do whenever i get into a disagreement with someone, is i always reflect on myself - make sure check myself. Am i in the wrong here always reflect on myself? First always look at myself first and try to better myself from that point, so hopefully that makes sense for you guys: okay uh! I in a recent video someone had asked me when i was dealing with the exhaust fans. How come we didn't have backdraft dampers in the exhaust fans? Okay, i work in restaurants. Typically in grease situation, the only kind of damper you might see in the ductwork is going to be a fire damper.
You have to understand that exhaust fans that are moving grease through grease ducts, they have to be cleaned on a regular basis. So a simple backdraft damper typically isn't going to happen, or it's going to be a very difficult thing to clean. Okay, i understand the concept of a backdraft damper and while it seems like a great idea um, maybe there is something, but i don't know of much of a backdraft damper that can be operated properly and move up and down in a greasy situation. It's not very common thing. I think you'd be more apt to see some sort of heating system uh to try to compensate for cold air coming in through the ductwork or something like that in the off cycle. Okay, so hopefully that answers your question a little bit. Uh, i will kind of break the internet when it comes to some of my european viewers and yes, i did purchase a crap ton of wago 221 connectors. I'm testing them out, we'll see how it goes.
Okay, maybe you'll start seeing me use waygo connectors a little bit more in my videos. I know i have been getting grief from my european viewers for so many years and while i will agree that, if installed correctly, a wire nut, in my opinion, will last equally as long, if not longer than a waygo connector. I still do like the idea of waygo connectors and, like my first use of them, the other day was actually pretty cool. I'm not going to elaborate too much, but i was safely able to work on something that should have probably been de-energized.
Let's just say that: okay, so um, i'm not gon na go anymore, because i probably shouldn't talk about that is a suction p trap, always necessary on a refrigeration system, no nope not always necessary. Is it a good idea in most situations, yeah, but any more piping than what was designed when you make piping too long when you go in certain directions when you bend when you 90, when you make a p-trap return every bit of movement, that the refrigerant has To do in the piping is a restriction in itself, okay, so the more 90s, the more p-traps, the more pins you put into equipment, the less or the harder. The compressor has to fight to get that refrigerant to move through that system at the proper velocity to let heat transfer happen. Okay, so um is a p-trap always necessary.
No does it hurt in most situations no uh, depending on the location of the equipment, the the main purpose of a suction line, p trap or an inverted trap up on the roof, is simply for oil transportation. Okay, a p-trap! It speeds up refrigerant velocity, as it's going through the p-trap, and the theory is, is that any trapped oil, the particles of oil, would travel with the refrigerant and the increased velocity would help to carry that oil up to the roof. Okay. But if you have a compressor below the evaporator, it's not necessary all the time to have a p-trap unless you have a high line set rise.
Okay, typically you're going to size your refrigerant piping and put the appropriate traps dependent on the length of the line set and the amount of 90s and turns you have to do so. No, you do not always have to have a p-trap. No, it is always not always required on a walk-in cooler. Do i install a p-trap more than i need to? Yes, i know that half the installations - i do half the walk-ins - that i do don't need a p-trap, but in those weird odd circumstances, what's it gon na hurt to have a single p-trap on a 50-foot line set run for the most part, it's not going to Hurt much so i put them in as much as possible. Um, let's see what we got going on in here. What else do we got? Look at my buddy trevor. There you go trevor from refrigeration mentors in here trevor. I actually just finished trevor's compressor, master class and i have to say it was a really really awesome class.
So it was four weeks right if correct me, if i'm wrong trevor, it's a four week class, it's about two and a half to three hour sessions. Depending on how many questions we ask and that's the cool thing is trevor's in there answering questions, you know um, but it was a great class. I personally learned a lot. Okay, i really did learn a lot and it was an online version.