Hey guys how y'all doing this evening, I am doing well just a another normal stressful day in the refrigeration field. I had an interesting, interesting dilemma today, because I was contacted by someone from that someone had watched my video and they had mentioned something about me using our 404, a in one of my installs and long story short. I was a good friend of mine had reached out to me in a basically someone had been concerned that I was using 404 a and they thought that it was illegal in the state of California to use 404 a so that started a junk or a mess Of phone calls and different things, so you know we have all these snap requirements. Nobody understands anything about them.

Okay, a lot of the snap stuff for the federal government was basically held off because of the new administration. But apparently California has taken it upon themselves to enact their own regulations, and it was just a bunch of phone calls towards the end of my day of trying to get clarification, because my understanding was, I was good until 2020 to be using our 404. A on my systems - and I still don't have a clear explanation on whether or not that's legit or not. I ended up calling the California Air Resources Board.

Carb spoke to a couple different people very, very nice people, there's a special phone number that you can call with questions about refrigerant. You know related whatever, because supposedly some law just passed this past year, right so called them talked to them and pretty much when I got off the phone I was just as confused as when I got on the phone with them, but again very very nice people. I have nothing but nice things to say about them, but I just think it's the way that we deal with legal stuff in this country. Everything has to be written so confusing.

It was very, very misleading, and the funny thing is is that my supply houses are telling me that we're good until 2020 to use our 404 a on replacements. But in Talk with the carb people, the California Air Resources Board, basically their understanding or their interpretation of the rule is. Is that we're not allowed to use refer it? You know our four for a refrigerant on new retrofits, basically, and so it's just like a mess. Nobody knows, and I know, there's a bunch of restrictions and different things, but it's just really confusing for us as contractors to know whether or not we can use this stuff and the problem that I find with our for for a well.

I still like using our for for a because it's cheap, the the replacement refrigerant, that's the most popular one for medium temperatures. Right now is our four four eight a, and that is more than double the price for a drum versus our four for a so it's just you know how it is. I mean everybody's had to deal with these r22 phase-outs and all that good stuff, but you, the funny thing is, is to this day I still use our 22 because of yeah just a bunch of silly. It's just there's so many different refrigerants and I just need someone to come out with one: that's a permanent replacement and it's just a headache.

So that was an interesting end of my day was trying to figure all that out. I was. I was kind of glad that I found a phone number for the California Air Resources Board and they have a special helpline. They answered the phone refrigerant hotline and it was very interesting.

You know talking to them and again they were very, very nice people and I don't think any fault of their own. I think it's just the way that our legislation is written and all this silly stuff that it makes it so hard to interpret and understand what the rules are. You know and then the supply houses they have documents, and they say you know. Oh you got to do this.

You got to do that, it's just so confusing, but I mean you know it is. It is interesting, so yeah I was dealing with that and thanks to my friend, you know who you are that call or that message to me. I really appreciate that he messaged me with it. Wasn't him that was concerned? It was someone that contacted him because they saw one of my videos and just you know anyway so, but it was cool, it's kind of cool to have people that that do think about me.

You know they saw something in a video and they're like hey. You know, I don't think that's quite right. I appreciate that stuff. If you guys, if anybody that's watching that sees me, do something that you think is incorrect, don't hesitate to tell me I mean you, don't got to be a punk about it, but I'm totally humble and understand I make mistakes.

So you know I'm totally willing to accept criticism, and/or advice, if anybody's ever willing to give me some. So please do you know. I really appreciate people thinking of me that way, you know, and on that same note I had an interesting. You know my recent video that I released last night.

I released that video a little bit early too. For some reason I was finishing editing it and I just went ahead and released it last night instead of this morning, but I used the key to therm 10th + defrost controller and a couple people have commented that they think that I was incorrect about the defrost On that controller - and I'm still looking into that - so I I do appreciate people telling me that so my thought was on that controller - that you can essentially tell it to do so many defrost a day, but you can't specify a different time period for each defrost. My understanding was that you know all the defrost that you picked. However, many of them it is 4, 6 or 8 or whatever is that they all had to be the same duration.

Now I don't know if that to be true or not, but some people had reached out to me saying they think I was incorrect on that and that's really cool. I really appreciate you people, I don't have all your names, but there was about four or five of you that reached out, and I really appreciate you guys doing that because maybe I was incorrect. You know I've still yet to to figure it out, but you know we will get to the bottom of it and I will get the answers on that so again, thank you guys very much so guys I will get to well. Thank you very much nasty.

I appreciate that I will get to the the chat here. I do that, like I usually start these things. I have a couple things on my little sheet right here that I want to cover and then once I go over those then we'll start hitting the chat and answering different questions and stuff so yeah. Let me look in here and see if I miss anything yeah exactly you wonder whether making the switch exactly because it's double the price, okay.

So the first thing I wanted to talk about today, because I got a bunch of questions and the the chat and not to chat, but in emails and different things and on YouTube comments is about charging critically charged systems. Okay, how to do so with a manifold gauge set alright and it can be difficult, but it can be done. Okay, I will say that a manifold gauges them is not an ideal sit tool to use when you're charging a critically charged system and I'm gon na pick on our 290, which is running like five ounce charges, five and some change or six outright at six nine. So 150 grams - let's just say that's the easiest way to remember so it's a very, very small charge.

So when you get done diagnosing something, that's very possible that if you used a manifold said well, it's guaranteed. If you used a manifold set that you're, then gon na be under charged when you're all finished, because you're never going to get all that refrigerant out of that manifold hoses and it can be a problem. Okay, so most of you guys probably already know about these, but I use stubby gauges, okay on any critically charged system that I can use stubby gauges, one may ask well how do you charge with a stubby gauge? Well, it's real simple. I will also use my JobLink probes, but you see that little fitting on the JobLink probe right here.

I get it from true tech tools. It's a little fitting. It has a Schrader core depressor in it down to the bottom, and it's got a Schrader right here and a Schrader right here. So you can simply just put your stubby gauges on that, whether you're using digital or compound okay.

So you can put that on the system, all right, sometimes that won't fit. So what I'll do is I'll? Take my my hose right here and I'll show you guys I'll. Take my refrigerant hose. That's on my gauges, okay and just apply that to the stubby gauge, or you know, for instance, there you go screw that on to that.

So then, now you can get that into a tight little space and you have minimal loss inside that hose and you have a ball valve to work with. Okay, that's really simple. The other thing is: how do you then, so I have a little port to charge, but how do I actually charge without losing a bunch of refrigerant or getting blowback okay, so what I do I still use a manifold from time to time to, but when I Mount a critically charged system. I won't so I have a hose right here right on one end, I have a ball valve and on the other end I have one of those Quick Connect valves, okay.

So this way I don't get spray back. When I take my gauges off okay - and I tip we put this end right here on the refrigerant cylinder, so my hose will be pressurized and then you shut off the ball valve. You can purge, you know up to the ball valve and then, with the refrigerant cylinder sitting on the scale you zero out the scale with this hose full, and then you just open this guy up charge. The system turn it off.

Take this off of your stubby gage and your systems charge and you have very little loss. So that's how I would charge a critically charged system if I was working on one with my stubby gauges. You know, of course, to also have the high side you can get these little fittings. Yellowjacket makes them jb makes them.

Everybody makes his little fittings and it just screws on to a compound gage, because the compound gage is a like a metric thread or something like that so anyways, but it screws perfectly onto a compound gage and it works perfect. So you can either use this alone. If you have to - or you can add the the little fitting so that way, you can have a charging port or you can use the you know the the wireless manifold there JobLink probes or the test. Oh smart probes, I mean there's all different ways.

You can do it, okay, so that's how I access the critically charged systems. I will say - and I mention this on the podcast episode that I did with Brian or recently about Archie ninety refrigerants, if you're gon na use smart probes or JobLink probes, okay, you need to be safe and get some kind of a clarification on whether or not They're safe to use with flammable refrigerants, keep that in mind. Okay, you don't want to be using these if they're not safe or not approved to be used with a flammable refrigerant, so something to think about when you're doing that stuff. There guys and I will again I'll get to the chatting.

I do need to get a moderator, but the other thing I get a question all the time and I was recently in true re delfield manufacturing service class, where they were talking about our 290 refrigerants and it's very interesting because most of the manufacturers out there I Find that they downplay the our 290 refrigerants and the danger with the flammable refrigerants. Okay, the I'm not trying to scare everybody and say it's: you know you're gon na blow up when you work on him, but we do need to use caution. I was in a recent training class, I'm not going to name which company I was in, but I was in a recent training class where the manufacturer had stated to me that they got upset and kicked their warranty authorized service company off of a job because they Had used a placard that identified the refrigerant, they were working with as flammable, and they put up like a caution, tape around the area. They were working and they were working in a hospital okay.

So this caused this. This service company was was following the rules to a tee, because if you watched any of the service trainings that our SES puts out well, I shouldn't say any. But if you watch the service trainings that our SES puts out, they tell you to identify the area and let people know that you're working with a flammable refrigerant, so that way, they're cautious working around you is it overkill. Well, I mean they were covering their butt, but they kicked that contractor off the job site because they were scaring the customer and I think, that's a bit ridiculous - that they kicked them off the job site, because the contractor was doing everything in their power to make Sure that the the end user was aware that they were working with a dangerous hydrocarbon refrigerant, so was there so do you guys, and maybe you guys can mention it in the chat? Do you think that contractor was was was wrong for putting up a safety placard that said flammable refrigerants and putting up a ello caution tape around the area that they were working personally, I don't think they were wrong.

Have I put up caution tape around the area that I work? No, should I have maybe I mean, but I've definitely put up. You know like I've made it known what I'm doing so I don't see any Fault in the contractor that the said manufacturer mentioned. I I really don't see a problem with it. I think that that was a contractor that was covering his butt and I'm actually blown away that a hospital would allow a hydrocarbon refrigerant in him because they usually have some pretty interesting safety requirements.

I know on the medical side, you know in the labs and stuff like that. I know that they have flammable refrigerants, because I've worked on some of the medical refrigerators, but I'm very blown away that you know. I think it was in the cafeteria or something that they were allowed to use hydrocarbon refrigerants. You know so yeah.

I don't think that that was wrong on the contractors part, and I think it was wrong on the manufacturers part to ask that contractor to leave the job. Because of that now I don't know if that was the only reason they asked the contractor to leave, because I didn't get the full story, but I did find that a bit ridiculous that that the that the contractor you know went that far. Okay, but again like I said, I've never used caution tape, but I'm not gon na fault someone for doing so. You know it's one of those silly things so, on the topic of the hydrocarbon refrigerants anytime, you work on a newly manufactured Heidrich.

You know refrigerator that has let's just go with I'm just gon na refer to it as our 290. Okay, guys, I'm not going to play the game, but there is other ones, there's isobutane and there's a couple other ones, but our 290 is the most prevalent hydrocarbon refrigerants. Okay and I do work with it. We come up to a system and it has process ports on it.

The process ports are braised, shut and or pinched shut with like a laser tool. So there is no service fittings to access the system. Okay, so we have to access the system while it's pressurized. Okay, so, like I had mentioned on Brian's podcast that I did with him, is that you know you want to use your senses when you're walking up to the box.

You want to feel refrigerant lines. Obviously, like I mentioned, you got to be careful, don't just go sticking your hand on a discharge line, guys there's a little bit of common sense. You got to use okay, but you know you got ta use your senses once you've determined and you don't just grab it with a full palm. You know touch the discharge line.

Is it warm? Is it hot touch, the suction line? Is it cold? If everything's lukewarm, then it's definitely time to access the system, let's see if the compressors running once you've determined it's time to access the system. You got to remember that, most of the time, once you access a system, you're, probably gon na - have to recharge it. Unless you follow some crazy, strict procedures - okay, because putting your gauges on there is definitely going to take the refrigerant out of the system and it's gon na be under charged. Unless you follow some of the things that I was saying using the stubby gauges and whatnot.

Okay, but we are going to have to cut into that system. They do make a tool. I hate these. They have one purpose for me and one purpose at all, but is a bullet piercing valve okay made by sub co? There's a couple other manufacturers what they do is they mechanically crimp onto the line, I'll pull one out right now, it's a mechanical fitting.

Okay, it's got a hole in it. You tighten down these little allen screws and then, when you're all done, there's an Allen in the middle. You tighten that down and it Pierce's the line. Then it applies pressure to here.

Okay, then you can put your gauge on there and access it. These things suck because they leak okay, you never ever leave these on a system guaranteed, they will leak. Alright, they are good for one thing and I was just to check a charge on a system, but you have to take them off. Okay, I do not really agree with these on flammable refrigerants, because it's gon na be a leak point.

It's this is guaranteed to leak. Okay, I have used these and I'll, give you guys an instance where I used them recently. This was not a hydrocarbon system. I walked up to a Traulsen, stand-up cooler that wasn't working properly.

The compressor wasn't starting, I could hear it. I tested the starting components. The starting components were we're good, so there was probably definitely something wrong with the compressor I tested voltage to the compressor. Excuse me, it was getting 120 volts, so I knew I had a bad compressor, but before I left it was a sealed system, it had a 134a in it.

So before I left, I had to put some service gauges on it, but it was sealed. Okay. This is one where I could not get to process stubs so because I knew I was gon na go back and change the compressor I had to put one of these on. It was my only choice.

Okay, because I knew I was coming back to change the compressor and I would take this off and put a coupling right there and braze it shut okay. So there's a there's like one instance that I think these are good for. Okay, now the other problem that I see you know some of the manufacturers tell you to use these. We call these bullet piercing belts.

They tell you to use a bullet piercing valve well, if you're going to use a bullet piercing valve - and I did bring this up in a manufacturer training that I was at recently and I did find I've been to like three different refrigerator manufacturers training in the Last like month, so I've been to a couple different ones, but I did bring this up because they told us you know in the manufacturing training to put these on when we're working on an AR 290 system, and then I you know, of course, can't keep my Mouth shut, so I politely raised my hand and say no, we can't use those and he goes well. Why not and I go how what is the instance? I ask the manufacturer that you want me to use this and he says. Well, let's say you walk up to a system and it's low on charge and you need to check the refrigerant charge he goes. I want you to put one of these on there and I go okay and what happens when we're done? He goes well.

You got to take it off and I said okay, so what's the point of putting this on there, because if I use the process stubs and braze on an access fitting, then my brain, I only have to braze once you know and then on top of that, If you're, using this and you're like, let's see, walk up to a system, that's flat on gas - and you put this in there and you're gon na - do a nitrogen test on the system. This is a leak point. You can't use this on a nitrogen test because you will get a leak, so it's just kind of silly. So what I use is it personal preference.

I use a pinch off tool. Okay, this is a vice grip pinch off tool on the end of it down. Here in the jaws, it's rounded it's not flat. Like vice grips.

This is made by yellowjacket. I do not have the part number, your parts houses all have these. You can just ask them for the pinch off the vise grip style, pinch off tools by yellowjacket. There's a couple other manufacturers that make them so just take this right here, pinch off the line on the process.

Stub cut the line; okay again, while the house pressure, so you got to make sure this pinch is good. You pinch it off right and good. Then what I'm gon na do is braze on, and access fitting. Okay, you braise this guy on.

You leave the Schrader out, while you're braising it in okay. Then you put the Schrader in and then what happens is. Is this pinch point will still leak a little bit of refrigerant through, but it's not a good flow. So what I'll do where this pinch the line? Okay, I don't have a video on it.

You guys can watch it, but it's a r2 90 compressor change. I think or something like that, but when you pinch the line, what I take then, is some channel locks and I go the opposite way of the pinch and just give it a ever so slight squeeze just to open up the the passageway for more refrigerant to Flow. Okay, now remember if we are following the manufacturer's guidelines when we're all done fixing the system, whatever we had to do, you're technically supposed to cut these back off pinch it off and braise the line shut. That's at your guys's discretion.

I've done that on the first couple, our 290 systems that I worked on, then I kind of went away from that. My theory is: is that I'm not adding a bunch of extra capacitor aunt and I have worked on some systems again if you're doing a warranty job, you need to make sure you follow the manufacturer's warranty guidelines. Don't ever go off on your own on a warranty job? Okay, but if it's not a warranty and you choose to leave these on, the only thing I do is I mark them with some red electrical tape. I've also before just to just to make someone think my thing is if someone needs to think before they go and put gauges on here and don't realize that it's a flammable, refrigerant, okay and I have used before to the r410a locking caps and then usually I'll Leave the little lock tool somewhere on the job site, where my guys know where it's at I don't.

Those are for tennety locking caps are kind of expensive, so I quickly realized that that wasn't very feasible. But that is a solution. If you are really concerned about someone jumping on that system, that the whole point is is that we're not trying to prevent people from working on it? We're just trying to make people think before they realize or before they start on. You know lighting a torch and the systems a flammable refrigerant.

We just want them to think so. The whole point of having the red, sleeves or the red tape or something on there is to make a guy think. Why would someone put red tape on here and then maybe he'll see the giant stickers all over the place? That's a flammable refrigerants, because there's there's these big stickers on the the the our 290 refrigerant boxes: okay and the isobutane and all the different ones. So so those are my thoughts on that was just answering the question that people had given on the or people had asked me on.

You know the low refrigerant charge and the process that I just showed you right now technically applies to. You know systems that have normal refrigerants in them. If it's a critically charged system a lot of times on the little they cut off the they don't come with service ports on him. Okay, so even if it's got four or four 134 or whatever you know, we might still pinch those off and braise them shut.

Okay, but again I caution you guys to always follow the manufacturers guidelines. Okay, be cautious about what you guys don't do and don't just do something, because you heard some silly guy on YouTube. Tell you not to do it or whatever. Okay, don't come back crying to me when you hurt yourself, basically so, okay, I'm going to just like a million comments in here guys.

So I really appreciate you guys coming in here and leaving comments. I'm gon na try to scroll up here and see what I've got. I have never Adam Adam asks how you use the JB pliers that puncture the copper. I have never used those Bryan or had mentioned those recently in a situation where he was recovering refrigerant from a crap ton of packaged units that he had to salvage or that they were salvaging and scrapping out.

I could see the the vise grip style pinch off tool working in a situation like that, where you don't have a working system in his situation, because the units were the weird situation that they were in. He couldn't put his service gauges on him, so he had to mechanically access the system somehow and those vise grip style pinch off tool. I mean pinch tool that has a piercing device on it as a perfect situation for that, so I've never used them. I've seen him at the supply house, you would just find a place pinch it, but you obviously are doing that just to recover the refrigerant out of it.

So ya Mena reach, you said: can I show more how to do a pump down on a walk-in cooler? Sure I'll try to remember to do a video on that with some basic stuff on how to do a pump down. I can definitely do that. So, okay and let me go up into here yeah this guy. You commented I'm almost at 20k yeah.

I am I'm. Nineteen thousand two hundred subs, I think the last I looked or something like that. It's pretty crazy guys. I still can't believe - and thank you guys, all so very much for subscribing to my channel.

I it's been a year. I I literally started actually well technically. It's been a year since I started my channel, but I really didn't start uploading until, like March of last year, so yeah, I guess it has been a year. We are in March now silly so yeah it's been a year and we're almost at 20,000 subs.

That's just crazy, like I'm just a service tech guys that has just makes a lot of mistakes and there's lots of other guys out there that do the same thing that I do much better than I do. I'm sure - and you know they just haven't - picked up a camera yet so you know, I encourage you guys if any of you service Tech's out there are thinking about it. I mean I encourage you to do it. Obviously you want to make sure your companies are.

Ok with it that's a real gray area. We've we've seen that with some friends of ours and stuff. You know, but you know, as long as your company is ok with it do so I do it to give back guys. I mean you know.

I really like to help people and I feel like we as service technicians, need to share our knowledge a little bit more because I definitely think it's gon na help bridge the skills gap. We've got a large influx of new people coming in and if we don't do something we're gon na have a problem, we need to get these people trained fast in no way. I'm gon na go off on a tangent right now, but in no way do I think that YouTube is the only training resource that you should use, and you need to be very careful because there's lots of jokers on YouTube too. That really don't know what they're doing you know so just be cautious about that stuff.

I really think that a proper apprenticeship is important. I really think that you need to go to a trade school of some sort. I prefer a community college because they tend to be cheaper, you're, not gon na. Let don't ever think that, if you're new don't ever think that you're gon na go to trade school and walk out making a bunch of money, that's not gon na happen.

Just because you went to trade school does not mean you're gon na hit the ground running. That means that you got the basics and it makes it a little bit easier for the company you're going to work for to train you. Ok, so just be cautious about that. Ok, you will not hit the ground running coming out of any trade school.

I don't care who you are either experience is a must. Ok, you know, or you could you'll definitely put yourself in a dangerous situation and nobody wants to be in a dangerous situation. Ok guys so anyways sorry rant over. Ok, Gary black jr.

brings up a really good point. He says he feels like making a video will make the service call longer, since you wouldn't have to explain since you would have to explain - and he doesn't want his company to watch video. Okay, you bring up a great point. Gary okay, I have been asked this question.

Some people come on and they leave like a nasty comment and say: are you charging your customers for all that time you spend on a video, I'm gon na. Tell you guys something in my situation. I have an undiagnosed mental disorder. Okay, I'm crazy.

I talked to myself sorry, I'm driving down the road. I talked to myself. I have conversations with myself. I rehearse things as I am working.

I literally talk to myself. That's how I troubleshoot I rationalize things as I'm as I'm troubleshooting, I'm talking, I constantly get on a normal basis. People saying excuse me, are you talking to me? No I'm not. This is how I troubleshoot.

I talk to myself in my situation and maybe not everybody's crazy, like I am okay and hopefully the the people that are looking over my concealed-carry application aren't watching this live stream. Okay, because they may consider me crazy and not approve my concealed carry permit. I never thought about that, but anyways. You know as I, as I walk what you know work through a troubleshooting situation.

I talked to myself so for me it really isn't any more time to sit there every couple seconds and pick up the camera and go like this, but I will say there has been instances where at the end of a job, for instance, I have a video Where I think it's called walk-in freezer defrost explained okay. That was a situation where I spent 15 extra minutes on the roof and I made sure that that time was deducted from the bill. I took an extra long lunch on that job, okay and made sure that so I always try to make sure it's fair for the customer. But what I'm getting at is.

Is I really don't spend any extra time? Okay guys. So that's just how I do things. So it's it's. You know it's just my troubleshooting process and for me to turn the camera on for two seconds.

While I'm talking to myself is really no different than my normal troubleshooting okay, so it is what it is, but you know always get your company's approval and stuff like that, and you always got to be careful about the locations you're at a lot of times. Your company may have signed a social media disclosure, so you've got to be cautious. I can't film at every location that I go to because there's different rules that apply to the locations that I'm at so you know there's some things that I can't show in my videos you know. So it is what it is all right: okay, Rapha free, as you said, experience or schooling.

I don't know if you're asking that in context, because I just answered that, and I think that someone needs schooling and experience both. I don't know if you were asked if that was response to what I said or, if you're asking me or what, because I kind of read that out of context, okay, but so yeah. I think that schooling is very important, but experience is also important at the same time. I think that and again I've said this before guys I'll just cover it real, quick.

I believe that if it's okay to go to school, while you're getting your experience, that's why I'm a firm believer of like the community college programs because they usually have night classes, not all of them do and I'm not knocking a for-profit trade school. If, if you're gon na get an education out of it, then so be it, some people prefer to choose that okay, they prefer to dedicate a bunch of time and get it done in a shorter amount of time. There is, I will say there is some for-profit trade schools, not all of them, but there is some out there that are kind unscrupulous and that kind of promise the world tell their technicians that they're going to be making crazy money when they get out. I have some local teachers that I work with that do work for for-profit trade schools, and I can tell you that they have really good programs at their trade schools, but I do know of some other ones in my area that are a little bit on the Sketchy side and do promise a lot of stuff and not really deliver to the students.

Okay, so I think it's you can't just jump into any school. Just like the school might interview you to come to that school. You need to interview the school. At the same time, to ask questions: go to supply houses, ask the supply houses hey! What do you think about this trade school? What have you heard about them? What are the bad things for anybody that you you're any school, you're gon na? Go to what I'd suggest you is Google search, negative reviews for that particular school and Google search positive reviews and kind of take a mixture of both okay.

Any school is only as good as what you're gon na put into it. Essentially, okay, so you can't just go into a school and expect to walk out knowing everything it's going to take effort on your part. To so that's why I say it's a mixture of both experience and schooling, okay, so okay, let's go down here, see, but that's the problem Ted again. I really shouldn't be saying this out loud, but I do answer myself.

That is the biggest problem. So, oh, that's really interesting, John, so yeah but Ted. I do answer myself so again. Maybe I shouldn't be saying that because I do have an existing application for a concealed carry permit and that is kind of sketched on.

Maybe I shouldn't have said that maybe they're watching this, the government yeah, but I'd seriously, do you rationalize things, I'm sure it's an undiagnosed mental disorder guys so, okay, guys I'm not going to go all the way back up into the top of this chat, because you Guys are chatting like crazy right now, so throw your questions again down in the bottom. Okay do so and then I'll try to get to them guys! Okay, I do have some other topics I want to cover, but I'm just going to kind of look at this. A little bit big or I'm going to answer some more questions, so I did get a question on where to get the Hoshizaki tech specs book, the big orange book. Okay, what you need to do is you need to reach out to Hoshizaki from my area.

It's called Hoshizaki Western is my parts distributor and their direct Hoshizaki. So it's not a united refrigeration cell in Hoshizaki parts, I'm dealing with Hoshizaki z' parts department, direct okay, I get the books from them. I'm not saying the supply houses can't get them for you, but it's easier to get them direct from Hoshizaki. You can, let's say alright.

Chris we can. We have a video with all your cans. Haha yeah, hey Zeus, YouTube frowns on guns, buddy. So I I don't know if any of you guys watch demolition ranch the YouTube channel with Matt character.

He has a normal YouTube channel. Where shows his family stuff too, but yeah he's been getting in trouble he's been like skirting the line with his channel. He has some really cool stuff, but but yeah he gets into a bunch of trouble with with his guns and different things. So Isaiah you're asking me if it's ok to take your time to a value.

It's all. I think you need to take the time to evaluate everything now, at the same time, I realize Isaiah in your situation it's a little bit different, but I'm answering this in general to everybody. You know you do have a service manager. You have to listen to.

You. Do have a company and you do have a restaurant manager or wherever you're working. That is expecting you to get something done in a certain amount of time, but you do need to take your time and fix it properly. If it's taking you too long, then your service manager or your company owner or whatever it's their responsibility, to decide whether or not to pull you off of that job or to send someone to help you.

But in no way do I ever think you should rush through a job just to finish it because someone's pressuring you you guys have to, but I mean that's your guys's decision. I can't make decisions for you guys, but you guys have to fix something correctly and or you need to say something to your service manager. Hey he's pressuring you to leave and you just politely don't be rude, but just say: hey, look, dude, I'm really having a hard time with us. I need some more time to figure it out and if he's not ok with that, maybe he'll send someone else out there, or at least he understands you know no, I don't care just get it going and get out of there.

Ok, but at least you made it known to him that you wanted to spend more time, so definitely need to take the time and evaluate things properly. So, ok, yes, bear down said you can download the book from Hoshizaki direct. That is absolutely correct. I am a person that likes to hold something in my hand.

I I may preach that we have all this access to digital stuff on our phones and whatnot, but I prefer, if at all possible, to have a paper book in my hands, but I'm also old-school. I came up in a different time. I know I'm older than a lot of you, young guys - and I know I'm still probably young compared to some of you older guys, but I'm 35 ok and I can still remember times before the internet. I could so so to me: it's not it's still, not natural.

For me to have all my books on my phone. I still prefer to have paper and hold it, but there is instances where, if I don't have my ice machine book, it is convenient to be able to download it on my phone, but I prefer to hold it in my hand, that is dying out, though, because A lot of the manufacturers don't want to print those books anymore, because even when they sell them to you for 20 bucks, they sell them to you for 20 bucks at a loss because it cost him more money to print that book. Essentially so there trying to get away with the paper copies and trying to go digital for everybody and eventually we're not gon na have paper copies of everything anymore. So Cody you did bring up the fact that Sharkey I'll answer your question in a minute Cody is bringing up the fact about the QR see the heat craft.

Quick response control are being replaced by the intelligent controller, and that is the case. I've been installing a bunch of the qrc controllers lately, because one of my restaurant customers supplies them. I don't buy those qrc units, any other ones. You've seen me install that's for a particular restaurant chain that purchased those purchases, those themselves, okay and they just send them out in I install inform I have been noticing in the supply houses, there's all the Flyers for heat crafts, intelligence system and it's supposed to replace The qrc and be much better than all these fancy stuff we will see I have yet to work with it.

I do from from what I've heard about the intelligent is: is that it has a lot of the features that the key to therm stuff has built into it as far as communication and being able to connect with your smartphone and stuff. So it's kind of interesting. It kinda is, in my opinion, heat crafts answers to the the key to therm products, because key to therm has been producing those those things you're. Seeing me install those products have been out for like five or six years or something like that with the kita therm they've had that that that's software and that set up and stuff in those controls for quite a while.

So it's kind of, in my opinion, heat crafts answer to that stuff, whether or not they're gon na push kita therm out of the way. I hope not because I really like the kita therm stuff and I think kita therms doing something interesting and they're starting. If, if you guys don't know kita therm house like an arrangement with trenton, and they, you can get a certain trenton, evaporator coil with the key to therm circuit board installed in it, it's not a typical kita, therm, evap efficiency controller. That's mounted external! It's actually a proprietary circuit board that still has all the same features, and it has like a little display on it and it's it's really interesting I've.

Yet to install one of them. One of the trenton. I think it's called the TL PL or some of their TL P, or something like that evaporator, but I've yet to install one. But I really would like to because it's really interesting.

They don't seem to be that expensive. It's just been something I haven't been able to sell yet so, okay, someone had asked about. Let me see were you at somewhat ho shark e55. You asked about a concealed, carry permit in California and yes, we can get a concealed carry permit in California.

It's just ridiculously difficult, especially in the county that I am in. I am in Riverside County, and I have heard I don't know recently, but I have heard that the backlog of you know basically, applications for the concealed carry permits to be able to conceal carry a firearm. Basically is like two to three years long. I don't know if that's still true to this day, but I know that uh that that's that's been a thing, but yeah they'd.

It is kind of difficult. You know to get one, it's kind of like having a concealed carry in New York. You basically it's it's. You can get it, but you got it's almost impossible so, but there are certain counties in California that you know the sheriff, because it's kind of it's, I believe the sheriff's discretion for the individual counties and some sheriffs make it a little bit easier for my understanding.

But I because of the county that I live, and it takes a lot longer so: okay, yeah Jeff, there's all kinds of crazy restrictions on firearms. You know you know that there's there's waffle groups out there and there was a waffle group that I had one. I didn't win, there was a waffle group. How do you say that correctly there was a waffle group on Facebook that I don't know how to politically correct, say it, but there was a waffle group that I had won a firearm.

It was a little handgun and I couldn't get it because it was not California approved and what was interesting when I went to the gun shop to register that handgun the guy was like you want to know something crazy. He goes if you get that exact gun in a different color, its California approved, but that's that's a tangent. We're not going to go off on guns right now, so Mitchell right renders you asked if I own the company. Yes, I am one of two owners of the service company that I work for it's my dad and myself.

We run the company together. He started the company in the 80s and I have since partnered with him and we run the company together now. So, yes, I am an an owner, crazy! Russian hacker he's an interesting YouTube. Guy yeah I've watched his stuff before okay, okay running coyote.

You said what, if you take classes, but your company isn't putting you on jobs to learn. Does it have to do with the fact that it's not summertime, yet it all depends buddy, it all depends on you know. At the same time I mean you have to look at yourself to. I don't know if this is the situation that you're in, but I mean, are you slow to learn? Have they been trying to teach you something and you haven't been picking it up? I don't know you have to evaluate yourself, but you know I mean if you're not learning, you know you got to do what you got to do to figure it out, but you know this industry is what you put into it.

So if you try and you strive - and you show people that you can do things, then you know you got to do what you got to do. Alright, okay, let me go back up in here. Yeah I'd appreciate you guys, if you guys hit the like button, give me a thumbs up on this video. It really really helps with the YouTube analytics and all that good stuff.

You know what's interesting, you know, I don't do these videos to really make money or anything I mean I'm not gon na lie, though it is a byproduct. I do get a couple bucks from YouTube. Nothing when you look at the time that I spend on it, though it's pennies but anyways. It is what it is, but I don't do this, but if you do analyze like how YouTube works and stuff these live streams, they actually hurt.

My channel I'm gon na continue to do them. Don't get me wrong cuz. I, like the format of these live streams. They serve a purpose for me, but when you, when you look at how your channel grows and stuff like that, they want all your videos to have like consistent numbers.

And if you look at like most of my videos, like the views on the video that I released last night last, I look. It was like in the 4000 range right since last night, but my live streams. They typically don't get any more than a thousand views. So if you look at my views like on a graph, it shows like two videos boom, really high spikes and then the live stream really low.

I really don't understand the YouTube stuff very much I just you know. Did they have all kinds of data? You can look at, but in no way am i stopping these live streams or anything like that. That's not why I brought that up, but I just thought it was interesting. Okay.

The next thing I want to bring up is someone had asked me a question about mounting temperature controllers on evaporating oils and they were concerned about vibration and that person - I'm sorry. I don't remember your name, maybe you're in the chat, maybe you're watching, maybe you're, not you bring up a really good point. Okay, very very common was the old mechanical pen, a nineteen temperature controllers. Okay, I still have a few.

I still use them every once in a while, but I've been trying to replace them with digital x' on the a 19 pin or Johnson Controls. Now, temperature controllers right, there's a coil bulb and then there's a remote Bowl. They were very susceptible to vibrations, so, especially after the control got to about two or three years old, then the vibrations, the control would start adjusting itself, believe it or not. You could go and you could go on a walk-in freezer and the first couple times.

I did it, I thought, maybe maybe the customer is maybe the customer is messing with the controller. Something like that. But no that's not the case. You know what I started noticing is is if they're mounted on the evaporator coil after a while the vibrations start to adjust the control, so you'd get the constant walk-in freezer call where you go out there and it's set at 20, and he needs to be a Negative tenth turn it down.

Three weeks later, you get the call again. Okay, again, like I said, I thought at first, it was a cook's messing with it, but it's not okay, so on the mechanical controls, they're very susceptible to vibration, especially after they're a couple years old. So the solution on those was to move them to the back wall, run a piece of s j cord to the control you know and then to the coil. I don't see that problem so much with electronic controls or digital controls.

Okay, so like a Ronco, etc' controller or the key to therm, tenth plus defrost controller, I don't really see the problem with them vibrating too much, because if there is a vibration honestly, you need to change the fan blades or something like that to eliminate the vibrations. Okay, so to answer your question yeah, I really don't see a problem with the digital's per se, but with the mechanical yeah there, it's kind of sketchy to mount them on the coils, because you will typically run into a problem eventually. So, okay, next one people keep asking me. This is like a silly one.

People keep asking me where I get all the stuff inside my van okay, my van came with a bunch of Adrian steel stuff in installed in it already. Okay, basically, the shelves - and it came with one refrigerant rack. The ladder rack on my van is by a company called prime design that came with the van alright. I did customize the van and change some stuff up everything that I added to the van after the fact.

I got different refrigerant carriers, two of them and then I got the the floor drawer unit and then the shelfs I made myself for the for the parts cases, but on the drawer unit I got from American van American van comm. You can look at all kinds of different sized drawer units and then the cylinder holders, where I keep my nitrogen and my co2 and my oxygen and acetylene. I got him from Granger's. You just look up cylinder holder on Granger's website and it came up with a part that was discounted and that's where I got the the information on it.

If you guys want more information on the cylinder holders, I can get you actually the part number, but you got to reach out to me because I don't have that on me handy right now, so I do wanted to bring that up last thing. Well, I want to bring up, is let's talk a little bit about Headmaster's and then I'll do some questions and stuff for you guys too, that doesn't mean it's over, but this is the last thing on my list here, Headmaster's in winter charge I on a weekly Basis, I get a question from someone saying: how do you check the level and a receiver? How do you check the winter charge? Okay, and I realize that I have a controversial method for doing that, but let me stress you should always follow sport -- lens 90-30. One guideline for charging a system with a head pressure: control valve: okay, essentially, if you follow a 90-30 one, what it's gon na do is it's gon na. Have you measure the the length of the condenser find out how many tubes are in it? Then it's going to give you an equivalent length for each return, Bend and you're going to add up the total length of all the tubing, including the return, vents.

Okay and then it's going to calculate the volume of liquid refrigerant that that condenser can hold. And then what you're going to do is you're going to look at the different temperatures at which you might be running on your system and you're gon na calculate how much flooded charge you would need for your system to work correctly. So if you can, I always encourage and stress you guys to follow the spoilin 90-30 one guideline on charging nasty. I really appreciate it man.

Thank you so very much for that super chat, but yeah follow the spoilin 90-30 one guidelines. Okay, it's really really important. Now, what's interesting is with the advent of the micro channel condensers. We can't follow that 90.

30. One because 90 31 guideline is for a tube and fin condenser, so with micro, channel condenser, essentially you're left with clearing the site, glass and filling up the system with the maximum amount of refrigerant. Okay. By that way, or you can charge the system on the coldest day of the year and clear the site, glass or you can call the manufacturer heat craft is one of the common ones that uses a micro, channel, condenser and I've called heat crafts, tech support and They've simply said just put the maximum amount of effort during the system.

Okay, I've asked them all, but they have like guidelines on how to charge and how much winter charge the system takes. It is also very, very small if you look at like a smaller. Like 2 and 1/2 horsepower condenser with a micro Channel, the winter charge usually might only be like half a pound. It's kind of a trip, ok because it needs a lot less refrigerant because of the micro Channel.

But I digress so you know they. I've had heat craft tech support. Just telling me. Oh no, don't follow our guidelines, just fill it up with the maximum amount of refrigerant.

So the little two and a half horsepower condensing unit that I just installed on the video that I released today. That thing took 14 pounds that was the the 80 percent maximum pumped down charge on that system. I just I just drop in 14 pounds and let it roll okay. What you could do in that situation is, you could put the 14 pounds in there and then go ahead and pump down the system and check the liquid level in the receiver.

Now, when I tell you guys to check the liquid level again, I'm gon na tell you all the silly disclaimers that I tell you. You got to remember that there's a pressure relief device on every one of those receivers, whether it be a mechanical one or whether it be a soft plug, which is simply just a piece of low temp solder. That has a melt point, usually around 400°. So you know, most of my receivers have a soft plug on them, because I work on the smaller stuff, so you're gon na take a heat producing device.

I'm not going to tell you guys what device to take people may say it in the chat. That's fine! You have to take a heat producing device that does not get over the temperature of the soft plugs melting point and you take that heat device and you go up and down the receiver.