Evening, everybody, hopefully you guys, are all doing well and you can hear me loud and clear seems like I plagued with audio issues when we have this this stream. Last week I apologize. I know the audio was a little little crappy, so hopefully it's sounding a little bit better. Today, I'm gon na try to pay a little more attention to the chat, and hopefully you guys will.

Let me know how it's all going inside there and that you can hear me loud and clear and all that good stuff. So we do have our spoor Lin BQ, TeV kit, giveaway tonight, right behind me right there we're gon na be givin that away so we're gon na. Let a few people roll in here. Let the number get up again before I sweet thanks guys for letting me know you can hear me: okay, yeah we're gon na.

Let the the stream build some people and stuff and then we'll do the giveaway. So I've pretty much got a timer set on my phone and we'll do in about ten minutes or so so a couple videos that I uploaded this week. I had a couple bonus videos in there too, and just kind of wanted to discuss them a little bit kind of give you guys some feedback and get your thoughts and different things on that. Okay, so the one video was kind of controversial, and I think a few people misunderstood me about the dye.

I had posted something on Facebook and then also went ahead and made a video out of it and posted it on YouTube. Also about how I was a second opinion on a on a walk in refrigeration leak where some evaporator coils had been condemned and the previous contractor did a great job condemning them. But as you guys, if you watch the video, you guys saw that what they did. Though was they added dye to the system so that way they could find the leaks a little bit better, which I do carry a dye kit in my van and I was very forthcoming and let everybody know that you know I have used die before.

I really really don't like using it. I've used it two times in my career, they were both kind of last case. You know scenarios and you know there was no other choices. We had to do it.

It was a multiplex system that had just tons of leaks and anyway as long as we're short, so I have used it before, but I did put it in this walk-in system I had noticed. Actually, the customer told me that the previous company had just put dye in there and they showed them all the leaf. So I kind of had an idea when I went to go put my gauges on it and brought out my UV light and was kind of you know. I showed you guys in the video where I saw the leaks, but I thought it was really really interesting that my electronic leak detector and the big blue soap bubbles were picking up a leak that the dye would not show hey Robbie.

Thank you so very much for that super chat dude. That was really awesome. I really appreciate it. Every little bit helps dude.

So thanks a lot so yeah. I was kind of blown away that uh. Is there a flicker in the background you know what it is. It's probably my my ceiling fan.

Let me turn it off and see if it makes the flicker go away hold on your site yeah. It's probably my ceiling fan that you're seeing so it should slow down here in just a second. It's got a little bit of a delay, so so anyways. So I was not the person that put the dye in that system, but what I did notice was that you know the leak.

Detector was picking up a leak and the big blue soap bubbles was picking up a micro leak, but the dye would not pick it up. So I thought that was really really interesting and that was kind of a great example that you know dye only works when refrigerant oils leaking out. It doesn't work when just the refrigerants leaking out now. In theory, there is oil in the refrigerant that's leaking out, but in that situation we were getting leaks at the bottom of the coil and we were seeing the dye, but at the top of the evaporator coil we weren't seeing the dye very much.

So you know that's just one of those things I I called it a usage case for using big blue and an electronic versus using dye, so you know to each their own. Some people like to use dye - I'm not a fan of it because and I've been educated more in the last five to six years about refrigeration oils and how the refrigeration system works. You know there's times in the past that I would use like a flush in the system and different things and I've since learned. You know over the past couple.

You know a few years that you know that stuff's not good for the system and it really breaks down the the windings on the compressor and all kinds. You know all these different contaminants that we put in the system to help us they're, not good, essentially, okay. So really the only thing, in my opinion, okay and I'm not criticizing anybody that doesn't do this. But in my opinion the only thing that really belongs in that system is refrigerant and oil.

And if we add these additives to the system, then you know we don't really know what's happening inside that system. So if at all possible, I really urge you guys not to add additives to the system, whether it be dye, whether it be you know, leak sealants. You know all that fancy stuff. You know.

I really think it's a good idea if we don't add that stuff into the system, so so the other thing I wanted to point out too, was that shame on the manufacturers. Shame on the manufacturers of those products and shame on our supply houses for not properly educating us on this stuff see because for a long time you know we relied on the supply houses to tell us what was good and what was bad and what we should Do and what we shouldn't do, and you know when we go to the supply house and they say: hey yeah, this stuff is OAM safe. The OEMs recommend it well that's kind of baloney, because the OEMs don't recommend it. You know if you pay attention to a lot of those things they get one om, it doesn't say which om it was.

You know for all. They know it could have an OEM, condenser fan motor manufacturer and you know they say it's om approved and then they print that on their cam, but they don't say which om approves it right. So you know shame on the supply, houses and shame on the manufacturers. For the deceptive marketing and the pushing of those products and not telling us that they could potentially be bad for the system, you know it wasn't until recently, when we really really started hearing, I'm gon na give a lot of credit to mr.

John Pasteurella with refrigeration Technologies, because you know when Brian or started having him on his podcast - and you know we were enlightened to to the things that we shouldn't be putting in the systems. Okay and yes, if we had listened to the refrigeration compressor manufacturers, you know they would have told us a long time ago. Don't use that stuff. But you know those guys it's it's sometimes hard for the general technician to hear from the refrigeration manufacturers like Copeland and Tecumseh, and all those different.

Well, okay - and you know when something like Brian released his podcast and it was you know just kind of blowing up and everybody was downloading it and they got to hear that stuff. You know we really got to hear how bad that stuff is for the system. So you know things are changing. I think we're changing the way that we look at things and you know - and I think it's it's bettering us as technicians and you guys again, I'm going to reiterate you know I have used die, have used it two times in my career and you know it's.

I wasn't a fan of it and it sucks because those systems are still out there operating. I will say, they've been operating for about four years and we really haven't had any major repercussions because of it, but I still don't like it. I'm still afraid that it's going to cause some problems, so you know to each their own. If you use it, you know more power to you.

If you don't, you know, I'm not gon na knock you for doing it. I just you know I prefer not to, and I'm gon na tell you the things that I don't like about it is. I don't know what a dye is gon na do to the system. I don't know how it's going to harm it because it didn't come in there from the manufacturer, and you know it.

It gets all in my gauges. Excuse me: it gets all over my hands. It sprays everywhere. If you get blowback, especially if you're not using a ball valve hoses, and if you have a you, know, Schrader's and you're pulling it off, you're gon na get spray, and it's gon na get everywhere and even the little the kits that come with a die.

It comes with like a little spray to clean it up, it doesn't clean it up, it just makes a mess. So if you are gon na use it you know again, I really would rather you not, but if you are gon na use it make sure you follow the instructions and don't overdo it. You don't need to add three capsules of it to a small system. Okay, you just need to add what they tell you to add just a little amount, but again I I'd.

Rather, you not okay, and the same thing goes for all these weird funky additives that they make for the systems and again this is my opinion, guys, I'm not the end-all be-all. I'm not going to tell you guys how to do your job. You guys got to make those decisions for yourself and you guys will suffer the repercussions that are bad. You know from using those products, you know.

Sometimes the customer maybe requests it. Sometimes the customer I've I have used it actually. Sometimes I've had the customer come to me and say: hey. I don't want to change that evaporator quo.

I want to put a leak sealer in there and I tell him you know I had one customer that I told him. I really don't want to use that stuff. It's gon na cause problems and basically the customer was was given the option to replace the evaporator coil and they were like. We don't want to spend that much money.

They just wanted us to add that leak sealant and I wasn't I wasn't happy about it. You know I'm gon na be honest with you. I actually sold him a set of gauges when I put that leaks Ilyn in there. I just had a cheapy set of analog gauges sitting around the shop and I added some money for those gauges because I didn't want that stuff.

In my my expensive digital gauges, you know so sometimes the customers request it. Sometimes you got to do what you got to do so all right. I want to look at the chat here and see what I'm missing and see if I'm missing anything in here so far, let me see yeah, I see you guys say you hate the dyes. You know it is what it is so and see what else do I think, given enough time the dye would have showed up? No because if you well, I mean I don't know that I think from my understanding what the customer had told me, the previous company.

It had been like two weeks, so the dye was showing up in multiple leaks, but it wasn't showing up in that one. In the video on the top of the coil, so you know yeah really yeah. Refrigerant really is the only thing that really needs to be in the system: refrigerant and oil. So, okay, I'm just kind of going through here and seeing what I miss and I find myself missing a lot of stuff in the chat.

So I just want to kind of pay attention to Justin pea. Hey you love the dedicate the winter charge. Explanation: video cool! I really appreciate that guys Justin, so, let's, let's kind of segue into that, so the video that I released this morning was basically a walkthrough of using the Spore'ln 90-30 one method of calculating the proper winter charge for a system that was equipped with a head pressure. Control valve okay, so a couple things I want to reiterate - and I did get some comments about this and I want to make sure that you guys understand the number one thing the spoilin method outlined in the 90-30, one which is actually this spoiling bulletin.

You can download it on spore lens website 90-30, one okay, this this method only applies to tube and fin condensers. So what that means is you cannot use that method for a microchannel condenser. So, if you're working on a new heat craft system with the hyper core, microchannel condenser, thus portland 90-30, one method will not work. Okay, there's two ways: you can do it as far as I know, with the spoiler with the the heat craft condensers with the micro Channel.

The first thing I say is you need to lean on the manufacturers. Whoever makes the condensing unit you need to ask them their methods for adding the winter charge to the system. Now I've been doing a lot of heat craft, condensing units lately, and I call tech support just to kind of run things by them and ask them what they feel and how they want to do. Things and I've been told multiple times that, even though, in the heat craft installation manual for the condensing units, there is something in there.

It tells you an amount for a winter charge. They say that they've had a lot of problems using those numbers that are in the books and what they highly recommend that you do on the heat craft. Condensing units is just put the maximum refrigerant charge in that system, and so basically they list them in their installation manuals and they list them in the the product information for their condensing units. They tell you the maximum pump down amount that can be stored in that receiver, and usually it fills up the receiver to like 80 %.

Okay and that's what heat crafts actually recommends that you do is charge to the maximum filled amount. So that's on a micro channel condenser, but again you want to talk to heat craft and or whoever the manufacturer of the condensing unit is and ask them their methods. Okay, now any way that you do it, even in my video that I just released where I showed the spoilin 90 30 one method. Okay, what I highly suggest is once you've calculated that amount and the same thing goes with the heat craft, condensing units once you've weighed in the maximum charge and those things.

What I strongly suggest you guys do is mark the receivers liquid level with a paint marker. Okay, I keep paint markers in my bag pump. The system down, take your heat producing device. Again, I'm not going to tell you what to use, but you get the drift.

Okay. Take your heat producing device make sure that you don't put the heat producing device over the soft plug or anything that can be damaged, maybe two passes, maybe three passes up and down the receiver then take the back of your hand, starting at the bottom of the Receiver - and this is all while it's pumped down and start running your hand up the receiver, and you will feel the liquid level, because the moment you get to a burning hot point on that receiver is the point at which you're not feeling liquid anymore. On your feeling, vapor, okay - and that tells you the liquid level, so if you've weighed in the maximum charge mark that level for the next guy. So that way, if yourself or someone else, comes to work on that system and you, you think it might be low.

Uncharged, you can add charge and you could just fill it up till that that paint marker level and then you know you have the factory charge back in this assay or the maximum amount or the proper amount. I should say so. That's my suggestion on that. So, okay - and you know I've gotten a lot of comments from people too, like it'd, be really cool, but on the small stuff that I work on, they don't add site glasses to the receivers.

Now I have heard that on the big giant industrial and the supermarket systems that sometimes they do have site glasses in the receiver, so you can actually fill them up to whatever mark in the receiver. And then you know, okay and I've said this before a long time ago, I used to work on Vogt ice machines and the Vogt ice machines used to have a sight glass that ran up and down the receiver, and it was really cool because you could pump It down and you could see it was a giant glass sight, glass and I think I've told you guys about it before it kind of looked like the sight glass on this dial a charge. That's right back here, long cylinder, running up and down the receiver, and you used to be able to fill the liquid level up and just see it right in there and then that would help you to so. Okay, I want to get into some of these questions in here and see what you guys are posting in here, and I say we give it a few more minutes and then we'll go ahead and do this giveaway too.

So that way, you guys that came in just for that. You guys can listen to that and we got some more educational stuff to talk about after that too. So, all right now, real quick before I go too far. Let's cover for for the the basics.

What the head pressure control valve does. Okay, I've done. Videos on this before I've showed videos, and this showed you the temperature differences across the head control valve, but in its simplest form, the head pressure control valve. The easiest explanation I can give you: is it simulates blocking off the condenser? Okay, there's a lot more to it, but it's a valve that simulates blocking off the condenser.

So if you have a refrigeration system and air conditioner or anything and you block off the condenser while it's running the head, pressure is going to go up right, so this valve essentially brings the head pressure in the system up now, there's a lot more to it. Okay, the main purpose of the valve is actually to help maintain a pressure drop or pressure differential across the expansion valve. Okay, because you have to have so much force, pushing on one side of the expansion valve to push the refrigerant at the right velocity through the expansion valve okay. So as your ambient temperatures outside drop really low.

So does your head pressure right? So when your head pressure drops okay, then that pressure drop across that expansion valve gets lower and lower, and then the valve starts to act erratically. Okay, we don't have this problem so much we're not so concerned about the pressure differential with new wear expansion valves, but especially we're not so concerned about it with an electronic expansion valve okay, because electronic expansion valves they can operate at a really low pressure differential. Alright, because they're, not using mechanical parts inside the valve to help the valve operate properly per se. Okay, like a thermostatic expansion valve, is alright.

Hopefully your eyes aren't glazing over in your head right there. When I'm talking about that, but these things they really do matter. Okay, so it's very interesting because I was just explaining to someone that's working with me and still learning right now. You know the the very small window that refrigeration systems operate in okay and essentially you know in a perfect world, you want your ambient temperatures to be between 70 and about 90 degrees between 70 and 90 degrees is like the perfect operating temperatures for a refrigeration system To work without having to you know, add sub coolers and head pressure, control, valves and different things into the system.

Once you start getting below 70 degrees ambient, then your liquid temperature drops and you tend to have pressure drop problems and then, once you get above, like the 90-95 degree range, then your your efficiency starts to fall off the map, because the liquid saturation temperature, the condensing Temperature and said the system gets too high, so it is kind of interesting that refrigeration only works within that small window perfectly now you know one could argue that you know you can bring outdoor ambient down to sixty degrees without anything and vice versa. You can go up a little bit higher too, but you know for the system to work perfectly and needs to be within that 70 to 90 degree window. You know somewhere in there, so it's very interesting how that works. Primetime you and the headmaster valves man hey.

If they banned headmaster valves, then we wouldn't have cool things to diagnose and we wouldn't have to go out and adjust the charge, and you know all that fun stuff. So it keeps us busy right. Hey, that's that's that's my opinion on it all right. Looking at the chat here, seeing what I'm missing guys, why don't, I think we got enough people going on in here? Can anybody in the chat right now tell me what the the view count is right now how many people are watching this at this point, so I don't have to change windows.

Someone tell me in the chat and I'll get an idea. I think yes, I can pull it up, because I'm not that slow it'll. Take me a minute, though anybody anybody see it in the chat, how many people are watching the stream right now, let's see okay, I'm looking up here to see what other questions I have. Okay, 115, okay, so yeah.

I think we're good right now. We're gon na go ahead and announce the winner of the spoilin B Q, TeV, KITT, okay. So what I'm gon na do is you guys are going to hear my audio, but I'm gon na show you I'm gon na share my screen with you guys. So that way you guys can can see who the winners are.

So let me put this right here and let me go ahead and display capture transition all right, so I used a thank you very much Ralph. I really appreciate that. But okay, I a app called King sumo and that basically helped me do the giveaway guys and what King sumo does. Is it basically just keeps track of all the numbers and helps me to count all the different bonus entries and different things, because, with the amount of entries that I had in this there's no way, I could have done this just by email? Okay, your guys's emails that you entered into this, I'm not doing anything with those I'm not selling them to anybody, they're, not going anywhere.

Okay, so don't worry about the emails that you gave, I'm not going to play with those or anything like that, all right. So what we have here is this tells us that we had six hundred and ninety seven contestants, okay and out of those six hundred and ninety seven contestants. We had nine thousand two hundred and twelve entries. So that's basically all the bonus entries and you know, by liking, sharing all that good stuff.

Okay, so out of that right here it says status and awarded once I click on this, it's going to show the winners email you don't have to be in here to to win this. I didn't make that any part of the rules - okay, so we're gon na go ahead and announce it right now, I'm gon na click award it and it says that the winner of the spoilin be cutie Evie KITT. Well, your email, it's Ryan at Grant. Mechanical 585 comm, so you are the winner, Ryan, I'm assuming your name is Ryan.

So if you reach out to me or I'll, send you an email? Okay, let me know if you are inside the chat. I just had a curiosity. You want to know if your in the chat but to everybody else that entered don't worry, there's gon na be plenty more giveaways coming. Okay, so thank you guys so very much.

I'm not ending the stream either okay, but thank you guys so very much for entering the giveaway. I wanted to do this for you guys, okay, so I'm gon na put this in here: real, quick, okay! So that's Ryan at Grant mechanical! You were the winner. Okay, so congrats to Ryan, I'm gon na go ahead and transition back into the. If I can figure out how to do this here, let's see video capture device and oh, this is how I do it so display capture turn that off transition back.

Okay, I'm back so yeah congrats to Ryan, and thank you everybody for entering the kit. You guys. One thing I got ta say is no that's right. One thing I got ta say is, thank you so very much to sport'ln.

Okay, so guys. Here's the deal I at this point in time, I'm not affiliated with sport lenore, not paying me nothing. Okay, not saying that's. Never gon na happen in the future.

Someday, hopefully imperfect world crossed my fingers, but that's not what's going on here. Okay, I had an idea. I reached out to spoilin - and I said hey - I want to do a video on my BQ, TeV kit and I wanted to know if they wanted to work with me and spoilin was totally ecstatic about it, because the whole point of this giveaway for them. For me, I wanted to give one of these kits away to you guys, okay, but for them they just wanted to raise awareness about the BQ, TeV kit, all right, they've had this kid out there forever for I'm.

I don't even know how long I mean it's been there for a long time. Okay, my whole career we've had one of these in our trucks. I think that the awareness of the kit has really really gone down, and I don't think many people realize how easy it is to keep. Excuse me that kit, in your truck and be able to stock all those expansion valve.

So, thank you so very much to the guys. That's Portland that took a gamble on sending me this kit. I really appreciate you guys and all you guys that entered the contest. Thank you so very much for doing all the bonus stuff, because I really wanted to show spoilin what the community that watches these videos could do to their social media and their YouTube page and to their podcast.

And I wanted to raise awareness to the stuff that they have out there, okay guys, because there is a lot of great information out there. So thanks again to spoilin for sending that out and Ryan, we will get this sent out to you bud. Okay. So I don't - I don't see you in here, but a good luck all right.

Let's go to some of these questions in here, okay and well, we'll try to do more of these giveaways, like I said guys, anybody you know anybody that wants to work with me I'll try to work with them. So hahaha there you go superior alright. What's my favorite electronic leap detector, I have some other things I'm going to cover on my paper, but I'm going to cover some of these questions. First, okay, so the electronic leak detector that I use and is the detect select.

I've used it for a very, very long time. It does really well for me. So that's just been my leak detector of choice. I've probably used it for at least the last five years and they've lasted a long time.

The only thing got to do is change. The sensor on it, which isn't the tip it's actually inside the leak detector, so I've done really good with those and they've worked really well for me. So all right, thank you. So very much for the super chat.

Count. Sense counts, senseless, okay, cool sorry! I could it took me a minute to write that I really appreciate it, but Ryan tanner, any business advice and guys if I miss your questions, write them again. Okay, I'm not gon na like go up through the whole chat, so you're not gon na piss me off by rewriting a question okay. So if I missed your question, try putting it in caps, lock or something okay, so that way, don't miss it.

So Ryan Tanner! You said any business advice on changing new walking equipment, markups, labor-hours, pitfalls; hmm, that's an interesting one! I've been doing a lot of walking change, outs lately and, unfortunately, a lot of the customers, because I work with chain restaurants. They haven't allowed me to sell them the equipment so they've been buying the equipment and I've just been selling them labor and like line sets and disconnects and all the little stuff. So when I do quite a bit of them lately there's a couple. I do at least two to a month walk in installs and that's just you like retrofits, changing evaporators and condensers.

So you know it's it's just about getting a routine and trying to plan ahead for your jobs. Okay, everybody getting to the job and trying to figure out what's gon na happen, that's when you start tripping over things and things tend to take a long time. I prefer to do installs with my vendors and a soft line set for the most part. Unless I have to do really long runs that I want to look straight on the roof, I find that using my benders in a swaging tool speeds up time dramatically.

Instead of doing braze joints so plus using benders is a lot less um. You know. There's a lot less pressure drop across the fittings when you're when you're brazing on a 90 vs. bending a 90.

You know there's a lot less issues inside that and there's less for potential leaks right. So yeah, that's some of the advice. I would highly suggest that you email me a little bit more about that, and maybe we could talk some more kind of off the top of my head. That's that's all I got as far as markups and stuff I'd rather not discuss that in the live stream, but send me an email.

We could talk about it a little bit so bill Burnett, just the tip yeah watch out for the tip, but that's just the tip can get you in trouble there. Sometimes. So you know, because if you accidentally submerse the tip and water, it can make the leak detector get in in air in a cuz. I know that's what you meant right.

You were talking about accidentally getting the leak, detector, tip and water right bill. Alright ha ha. Thank you very much. Susie.

That's that's really cool. I appreciate it. Ok, so interesting, primetime yeah. Those are interesting numbers.

So interesting numbers. Ok, Ralph. You said why are some reach in fridge? Reach and refrigerators have 35 degree air temps and keep product at same temp, and some other brands need to have 30 degree return air to keep product at 35 degree. 10.

I don't know about that. One Ralph I mean typically, most refrigerators are going to be Jordan. Don't let me miss that question, but I have I have an answer for that. So Ralph's most refrigerators are gon na have typically about a 20 to 25 degree, evaporator TD on them.

Ok, so that means that you know the the evaporator coil temperature needs to be 20 to 25 degrees below the box temp to maintain the temp okay. If you're running your box, temp down into the 30s that evaporator temperatures getting really really cold and you're typically gon na, have to have like an electronic defrost on the system. Okay, so you know I guess we would have Ralph. We would have to talk about some certain situations.

I need more details to talk a little bit more about that, but for the most part, a refrigerator is going to have a cut in temperature. You know somewhere in the 38:39 range, and so the theory is. Is that it might melt any of the frost that builds up on the coil, but to maintain a 30-degree box temp that refrigerator? I think you might be mixing something up there or something dude, because unless it's like a custom special refrigerator, I don't know of any that are maintaining 30 degree box temp. So, okay, keep going.

If I don't care okay, so yeah there, you go bill, see see we're thinking alike right bill. Alright, yes, in my opinion, superior again, not knocking anybody, but in my opinion, spoilin does make the best filter dryers and it's kind of funny, because my supply houses know me very well. I frequent to sub to different supply house chains and they know me really well and they know not to give me. You know when I call and say hey give me a dryer convinced unit and all this did.

They know not to give me Emerson, stuff or Alko the old brand. I typically like to use spoiling a personal preference. Okay, I like their stuff. I like the quality of it.

I, like the sight, glasses different stuff, like that, so I Mass Portland fan already so yeah, just a personal preference. You know I'm a when I'm using thermal expansion valves and different things. I typically tend to prefer spoilin some of the old Emerson or alcove valves. You know they didn't have power heads on him and when the power head went bad, you had to change the whole valve which is kind of a pain in the butt.

So I really really do appreciate spoiling products, and you know that's just my preference. So, okay, I'm looking at this so Suzy, you said so. If you're using T 2 coz and you're looking to purchase a micron gauge, would you stick with test? Oh Suzy, I'm a fan of the key tools. Blueback micro engages - and I honestly have no opinion about the test.

Oh stuff, I've never had anything test. Oh hey, Zack! Thank you so much, but I really appreciate it. The test, oh stuff, just a personal preference again, not not knocking test. Oh okay, because a lot of guys love their stuff, it's just to each their own.

I like the a key tools: blue vac, micron gauges. You know, I'm a field piece fan boy, but I'm not using their micron gauge. So you know I'm not. I don't owe my allegiance to one particular manufacturer.

I basically stick with what I like, so I'm using an a key tools, leak, Terry, a key tools. Micron gauge, you know, field piece gauges, all that different stuff, all right, so p-traps, so thin Asus. The Nasus wants to know if I want to talk about p-traps. So if the NASA's are we talking about drain line p-traps? Are we talking about refrigeration like suction line? P-Traps, give me some context there and I can answer a little bit better, yeah, okay, so primetime.

I I think I watched didn't I watch. Did you make a video on that or who made a video on that we're? Thus Portland 163 filter dryer failed in something broke yeah? That was you? Wasn't it primetime? I I think I watched a video where you made that and you or was it a Facebook post or something I swear. I remember that where there was it, wasn't it a bye, flow dryer or something like that and the like little check valve broke off inside and blocked off the dryer. I think that was you all right.

I'm reading the chat here. Oh, so someone asked me earlier what the oldest refrigeration system that I worked on. You know way back when I was a little kid coming up. I'm sure there was some some really old stuff, but the best thing that I can remember was a 1960 64 carrier split system, air conditioner.

This was a day and I don't do work for them anymore. So I can say who it was. This was that a Joe's Crab Shack in Long Beach, California. I was right by the water.

It's not there anymore, they've since closed it, but um they had a an attic on top of the building and it was a trip. It was a really old carrier. Air handler, but it had a Carlile, Oh 6d, compressor inside of the air handler. So the compressor was in the air handler and then it had a remote condenser on the roof and it was a 1964 carrier.

Air conditioner system - and I changed it out. But it was a trip because taking that thing apart, oh my gosh, it took us like three days to cut that thing into pieces because the the building was literally built around it. It was so big that thing was a was a chore and then the new one we put in like a york air handler. It was like a york, i don't know if it was the predator line or what everybody was.

It was a york air handler with a remote condensing unit. It was like so much lighter and like so easy to install. So that was the oldest system. I worked was a 64, so it was a very, very interesting system.

Okay, so, prime time so someone had someone had posted a video. I don't remember who it was about us, borland, suction dryer. I think they may have posted something on Facebook or something like that. I don't know someone did and it was about a by Flo dryer, that that, like a check valve broke off and inside, or something like that, I've had good luck with her stuff haven't, had any bad luck so again to each their own.

All right keep going into here, see someone manufactures good, sometimes yeah exactly so. Some manufacturers are great. Some are just a so-so okay. I want to get to some questions that I have written down on my thing again.

I want to cover that and I'm gon na pop up a screen share again real quick for just for shits and giggles to let anybody else that just came in here. No, we did announce the winner of the spoilin BQ TeV kit and it was Ryan from Grant mechanical, so Ryan from Grant mechanical was the winner of the spoilin BQ TeV kit. So I will get that shipped out to him and again I post it on here. For those of you that entered that didn't win, don't worry, there'll, be plenty more giveaways coming so well.

You know I'll work with some people and try to get something. I want to try to give back to you guys, because I really appreciate the time that you guys take to watch these videos and it's very humbling to have the conversations that I do with you guys, whether it be through the chat or through emails and different Things, you know, I'm just a simple person, just a normal service tech. I make mistakes. Just like you.

My smells the same as yours, I'm no different. Okay, I just have had the opportunity to pick up a camera and I'm able to film my mistakes. So I just like to share the little bit of knowledge that I have with you guys and, and I'm super humbled by the amount of you that watched these videos and watch the channel. You know the subscribers I'm blown away by the subscribers that I have right now.

You guys are killing me here. We just broke 21,000 100 subscribers, like I'm so blown away by that it still just humbles me to think that you know pretty much a year ago. I started making these videos to share with my technicians and then now you guys are all watching this. So thank you guys so very much and I hope to share continue to share the knowledge that I have with you guys.

Okay, so thank you guys very much. Hey Joel, how you doing bud okay Ralph! When do you know it's time to change the sensor on your D, Tech, detector, it'll, tell you when the sensor it has a life, a life expectancy on it. It's based off of so many hours of runtime but it'll start flashing. Like some funky lights, you got to read the instructions, but basically you turn it on and it flashes like the battery's dead.

But the battery is not dead and it tells you that the sensor is bad, so we keep one of those sensors at the shop. Third, I want to say a hundred bucks or something like that, so something in there hey. You want to know something interesting. I heard this has nothing to do with HVAC, but I heard that Disneyland, which is a trip I was watching.

Something Disneyland has an official policy right now here in Southern California, where they're completely banning smoking within the park. No smoking within the Disneyland Park and the other thing that blew my mind if any of you've ever been to Disneyland is they're. Banning oversize strollers again has nothing to do with HVAC. I just thought that was an interesting fun fact, because if you've ever been to Disneyland every I mean even when I had kids, we would take the biggest stroller.

We had and load it up with an ice chest and food and everything and they're banning those, and they have like size restrictions on strollers now like when you're going to the airport, with your carry-on luggage and stuff. So I thought that was funny all right. Let me see what else what else am I missing here? Okay, so again, thanks so much to spore land? Okay. So someone had asked me what I use sorry for the squeaking from my chair.

Someone asked me what I use to find the liquid level in a liquid line: receiver, okay, I've said it a bunch of times, I'm not going to tell you guys what to use, but I use a heat producing device. Okay, I just wanted to cover this. A little you know clearly make it clear: I use a heat producing device whatever that device is, it's got to be hot enough to get the metal hot you wave it up and down the receiver. Some people have asked me: can you use a torch? Can you use a heat gun? Can you use a hairdryer all these different things as long as it gets the temperature hot enough, so that you can use so that the outside of the receiver gets hot enough, then then you can use that? Okay, I'm not going to tell you guys what to use.

You got to use your imagination, but I will tell you that I am gon na go, get my oxy acetylene torch and bust it out to heat up a receiver. I'm definitely not doing that. Okay, so, but whatever you use, you got to be cautious to make sure that you don't overheat the receiver or overheat the soft plug Dmitri. Thank you.

So very much dude, all right. Let's keep going in here and seeing what I'm missing, you guys got any more questions, throw them down in the bottom of the chat I'll get to them. Okay, Ryan! You, you know Hey to each their own bud. I'm I'm gon na say that there's people in this chat that yeah they've hit the nail on the head on what I use, but I'm not gon na say it.

You guys I live in California, come on. You got to be careful, California, we ban everything and we sue for everything. So you have bans. Selfie sticks for whacking people on the rides yeah, that's a Disneyland thing too.

So, okay, let me go back up in here and see oh right on just rest. Cool Disneyland, Hotel, interesting, huh, all right and see what else I got in here guys. There are some more questions down in here and I'll get to them. Okay, anyone use the spin flair for drill bits on trend.

Thank you so very much. I really appreciate these. These super chats are awesome guys because they really do help me with this streams. You know it's totally.

Othon Asus really really appreciate: okay, refrigeration, p-traps gotcha, so refrigeration, p-traps. The point of a refrigeration p-trap is to speed up the velocity of the refrigerant, so potentially catch the oil. This is a standard, non inverted p-trap, okay. So it's there to speed up the the velocity of the refrigerant in hopes that it's going to catch the little oil droplets inside the evaporator coil.

So if you think about it, if, for whatever reason, we have any vapid Akoya, yet the refrigerant oil has left the compressor flood back anything washed, the oil out of the compressor right and it's made its way down to the evaporator. The problem is, is that sometimes the velocity, the flow of the refrigerant, isn't fast enough to put the oil back up, especially if we have a really high riser? So the riser is the the vertical section going straight up right. If we have a really high rise going up to the roof, we could have a hard time or maybe the oil will make it like halfway and then it'll drop back down because the velocity slows down. So we have some creative ways of speeding up the velocity of the refrigerant okay.

If we follow and there's another, this -- is actually gon na segue into something else, but if we follow the manufacturer's instructions on piping the system correctly, we can do something. So we can put a p-trap down at the evaporator or at the vertical riser. It doesn't necessarily have to be in the evaporator. It could be just at the vertical riser okay going up and then, if we dizzy Dallas.

Thank you so very much. I really appreciate it and then, if we we can put an inverted trap on the roof, that's also going to help to speed up velocity, but then also help to not let refrigerant oil back down the suction line. Okay in an off cycle, we can also downsize the suction line on the top of the p-trap, as it's going up to help speed up velocity. So there's a couple different things we can do, but the whole point is to get the oil back in the compressor.

Now, in a perfect world on a perfectly engineered system, what they're going to do is they're going to install an oil separator at the up on the condensing unit, essentially, okay. So that way, the discharge line coming out of the compressor, the if there's any oil in it, it goes back into the compressor. It basically runs into the oil separator, separates the oil and just puts a you know, vapor refrigerant, to the condenser. Essentially, and then you know, turns it into a liquid and follows the process, so what you want to do, if I would highly suggest I brought it up last week, I'm gon na take off my headphones and grab a manual, and it's gon na explain some things For a really quick, easy read, I just went over to my bookshelf.

I brought this up last week, get yourself the old-school, Honeywell, I'm sorry Copland, refrigeration manual, it's going to give you a Cliff Notes, version on sizing, refrigeration lines, okay, and if you open up this manual. Essentially, this is the book right here that I showed you guys. Last week, the Copeland refrigeration manual - this is a very, very old manual from the 60s, but this one was revived it revised in 1986. This book right here part four, is going to tell you system design and it's going to help you to design suction line risers.

I actually had this all the way back in trade school, and you can actually see that I marked the tabs because when we were doing our refrigeration load calculation and system design class, we had to use this Nathan so very much man. Thank you so very much. I really appreciate all these super chats guys. You guys are blowing my mind so get one of these books and it's really gon na help you now what I, what I wanted to segue into is leaning on the manufacturers and following the manufacturers, installation instructions.

So what you guys can do is go to heat craft heat craft, our PD, comm. Okay, you can go to Russell condensing units. You can go to Tecumseh condensing units. What I keep in my van is the refrigeration systems manual from heat craft.

Okay, this refrigeration systems manual tells you how to size suction lines. You know I if I, if I die I'll, try to do a video on line sizes guys, and we can break this down a little bit more. But this oh there you go Ralph from Honeywell says that they've got a line: sizing calculator in there, James Ron's product, soft property software, so good, good information there. Okay, it's always good to have a manufacturer in the chat because he can leave information.

So you can get all this information from heat crafts website. Okay and the same thing goes for I have an old Copeland condensing unit. Catalog has all kinds of great information in it to come. See you know, I mean everybody has their catalogs.

All you got to do is search their their websites and they have all kinds of good stuff in there. Okay, so if you guys have more questions, get to them in a second, I'm gon na show you guys one more thing inside the chat. One thing I want to show you: let me go ahead and display capture and follow over you guys can go to spoilin online.com. They have a literature section.

If you guys go to the literature section, you guys can find all the information that I told you. The pressure regulating valves it has the head pressure regulating valves inside there. You can find all kinds of good information and it's downloads you can download on your phone your tablet, whatever you're using ok. The next thing I want to show you is: if you go to heat craft dot, our PD comm same thing, they have a literature, tab, you go to literature, you go to technical bulletins, miscellaneous! You can find the quick response.

Controller information. This engineering manual is like the the refrigeration Bible, tells you to do load calculations by hand it'll pop up here in a second, it's taking a second to load, but it'll tell you how to do refrigeration, load calculations and everything. So I'm gon na go ahead and turn that off because that's taking too long to load for whatever reason their websites taken well but um, yeah heat crafts are PD comm and you can learn a lot more about that stuff. Ok, so keep an eye or you know, look into that stuff guys.

All the information that I share on on my streams is just information that I looked up from the manufacturers guys it's not some magical information that I know that nobody else knows. I just know where to look read: that's all I do is just read manuals and learn. So, ok, let's see yeah, everybody has great information. So Ralph from Honeywell in here is saying he you know, like I said, he's got that line sizing calculator and their gent Ron's property software Honeywell also has great information on their refrigerants and different stuffs.

All you got to do is go to their website. If you guys have questions reach out to Ralph Ralph's in here right now, Ralph, you can put your email in here. If you want to give it out to people anybody that wants to ask him questions about Honeywell, refrigerants. Okay, Ralph is the one that turned me on to the r4 48a that I'm using in my condensing units lately, so no Jason, I did not go to Brownson.

I went to mount sac Mount San Antonio Community College in walnut. If anybody's familiar with that class, there was a lot of really great teachers. Mr. Darrow Soares, Lanny Richardson John Lane lots of great teachers that worked at that school and I learned a lot from those guys.

So, okay keep right manual. Yeah everybody's got great information. You just need to know where to look for it, so Ryan, Tanner business advice, how many hours labor do you think should be charged for an ice machine, cleaning and sanitation depends on the ice machine. But if we're talking a Hoshizaki machine, it's gon na be minimum.

Four hours, four to six hours, if it's just a normal dirty machine and then sometimes more if it's like stupid, stupid, dirty, Manitowoc ice machine about the same, it's gon na be four to six hours for a cleaning. I don't care what the installation instructions say. That's what I'm quoting and that's what we're gon na do if it's two machines, it's gon na be an all-day job and we quote it that way. You know I do ice machine cleanings a little bit different than most people.

Okay, one of these days I'll do a video on how I do that. But essentially I have a giant Rubbermaid bucket again, because this came up. I don't have pictures or anything, I'd love to give you some visual aids, but I buy a Rubbermaid bucket. That's about eighteen inches tall, you know the ones that have like lids that you store crap in you know I just throw the lid away or sometimes you can keep the lid, but I keep brushes and like cups and different things in there and we take that Rubbermaid bucket, we fill it up with half a bottle of ice machine cleaner and some hot water, and you disassemble after you've, ran cleaner through the ice machine.

You run cleaner through the clean cycle. One time, then you disassemble the entire machine and put all the parts into that Rubbermaid bucket and let them soak in there. And then you do a scrub down on the ice machine, while you're waiting for those parts of soap once you've done a scrub down on the ice machine in a perfect world, I've emptied all the ice out of the bin. I take a hot water hose and I've got that with me and I'm spraying, as I'm scrubbing once you've done that clean the underside, then you disassemble the parts if the machine was emptied out which, which is really how it should be done with no ice in It then I'll use the ice bin as a sink and take the parts open.

The bin door take the parts and rinse them off in the ice bin, and then that way you know and then put them into a clean whatever and then run sanitizer through the machine. Once you've ran sanitizer through the machine, then you put it back into normal operations. So that's gon na take me typically four to six hours, all right: okay, superior you're, asking if a series start from new Calgon, is it good or bad for converting an r22 unit? Okay, I don't want to talk crap about new Calgon. I don't want to be a basher okay, if you guys choose to use their products, then more power to you.

Okay, I don't choose to use those products. Okay, I don't know if I don't even think it was new Calgon, but there was a there was a refrigerant manufacturer out there. I don't remember who it was. They made a can of something that you added to the system, so you didn't have to vacuum it down.

That's where they really lost me. You sprayed this in the system like on a mini split. You sprayed it into the system and it supposedly took all the moisture out of the system and turned it into a solid and made it get stuck in the dryers. But then, now that I said that I wouldn't work on a mini split because many splits don't have dryers, but whatever this crap was okay, I don't buy into those gimmicks all right, in my opinion, again to each their own.

But in my opinion, you don't add any of those things to the system. Okay, look! If you have a refrigerant and Ralph. I hope I'm not stepping on your toes here. Okay, but if you have a refrigerant any of the new refrigerants they're only meant to be used with polyester oil, okay or the PVE oil they're not meant to be used with mineral oil anymore.

Okay, so any of these r22 replacements. Yes, they will. They have like they will do okay with mineral oils, all right, but they always have a disclaimer in their paperwork that says for best, you know, operation best results, use it with polyester oil, okay, there's not anything! You can do to that system. Besides, mixing adding extra oil and different things to it, okay, in my opinion, that's gon na make it work right with the refrigerant.

If you want to solve your problems, don't add any of that stuff to it.