In this video, Joshua Griffin goes over the best refrigerant replacing 410a when it's completely phased out in the U.S. He also goes through the website R32reasons.com and touches on the highlights of what makes R32 the best choice when replacing 410a HVAC equipment in your home. Joshua goes over several R32 facts and shares why this should even matter to the average homeowner before they purchase heating and air conditioning systems.
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Chapters
0:00 Intro: 410a phase out and new refrigerants
0:47 R32 Reasons Website
1:19 Why R32?
3:49 More Reasons
5:43 In Summary
6:58 Why should you care?
7:32 Outro: Your comments?
#hvac #refrigerants #r32

Hey guys I Want to do this video As we are in the midst of new products on the horizon, they're going to be introduced to the market as 410A refrigerant continues to be phased out or phased down whatever verbiage you want to use. But basically 410A refrigerant is going to eventually be gone and in this process, we're going to see equipment with these newer refrigerants a2o refrigerants being introduced to the market. and right now, whether you know it or not behind the scenes, there's a little bit of uh I would say battle where some brands are going to be going with other refrigerants. and of course you got some brands that are going to be going with R32 and I want to do this video because there is a website talking about R32 we're a Daikin dealer at Griffin Air Daikin's the biggest in the world and I just really like their products.

but I do gotta say in this whole grand scheme of things this website goes through. R32 Why you should consider it. You might say as a homeowner, why does it matter I'll just pick one or the other I think it should matter and I think going through these reasons why you should consider our 32 for your home might help with that. There is a website that I'm going to put a link to down in the description.

It's called R32reasons.com and we're going to go through some of those right now. Reasons why you would want to consider R32 as the refrigerant That you're going to choose in the equipment that you're going to choose for your home. So let's dive into this. Reasons why you would want to go with R32 versus some of these other options.

First of all, it is more efficient than 410A refrigerant. R32 Systems can be up to 12 percent more efficient than similar 410A refrigerant systems. The refrigerant itself requires a less capacity in the unit. meaning if you had to have eight pounds of refrigerant with 410A now you need say six pounds I mean I don't know the exact ratios, but I'm just using that as an example.

And because of that, they're saying the equipment itself is going to be lighter in weight and that plays a big role where you install the unit and some of the other challenges, especially as time has gone on with these efficiency standards. I Remember being able to buy one and a half or two ton outdoor units. They were small, you could almost put them in the back of your car. and these days it seems like some of these systems when you buy them the higher the sear and capacity.

Some of them are as tall as I am almost. and so seeing that some of these systems are going to be a little lighter in weight, that plays a difference. It's better than 410A for the planet. most of these newer A2o refrigerants have a lower gwp, but not just lower significantly lower a fraction in some cases a 410A refrigerant.

The next reason I would say is probably one of the biggest reasons, and that is it's globally accepted. R32 is being used in tons of other countries out there. It's been used for years. Over 160 million R32 units have been safely deployed worldwide.
It's non-proprietary unlike some of these other refrigerants where someone is holding the patent. it's all about money for them. R32 is readily available for multiple suppliers. it's going to cost less than 410A that's more readily available because 410A is going to be phased out.

that's going to get even higher and higher. Another thing that jumps out at me about R32 versus some of the other options is it's a pure refrigerant. It's non-blendid and so a lot of folk when they I hear like a three digit number refrigerant. What they're not realizing is the reason it has such a longer name or require specific measures.

When you're adding that refrigerant to a system such as flipping the tank over, it's because it's a mixed refrigerant. R32 is not mixed. It's a pure refrigerant. In fact, R32 is in the makeup of 410A refrigerant.

So you may say, well, I'm not sure I want R32 in my home or system. It's already in there. it's part of 410A It's also a part of some of these other refrigerants that are being introduced to the market. so it's just more available.

And it's been around the town right? Because it's pure and not a mixture. it has no Glide a lot of homeowners probably don't know what that is, but a lot of Blended refrigerants do have what's called a Glide a temperature. Glide When the refrigerants have different boiling points in that system, because it's pure, R32 is going to be easier to work with in a lot of cases because of that. One of the big conversations is the patents themselves.

Daikin does own the patent to R32 in the United States but they have granted free access and pledged many R32 equipment patents to increase the pace of R32 Innovation It's designed to draw less electricity. It's also difficult to ignite. A lot of folks that are concerned with these newer refrigerants that are mildly flammable. R32 Refrigerant requires approximately 100 times more energy to ignite than propane commonly used in household appliances.

Another thing, because it's a pure refrigerant, it has zero composition change as time goes on. R32 Refrigerant maintains performance efficiency over time. It's easy to reuse and recycle because it's a single component. refrigerant.

R32 is easier to reuse and recycle compared to Alternative non-asiotropic Blends Also, because it's pure, it can be charged in the system in liquid and gas forms. That's huge. I Remember years ago when we would use R22 a lot If a system just needed a little bit of refrigerant, you didn't want to add it in liquid. You were going to overcharge that system so you would see guys just leave the tank upright.

Give them a little charge. that way you're not over charging the system and it was just simply easier to work with. As I said before, it's got a proven history with 160 million units installed worldwide. Since its Inception in 2012, R32 systems have become the global standard to replace 410A and many HVAC applications 4 million new units annually being installed and that's before it's even being offered in America.
So anyway, I don't know if any of this helps. I Think in the grand scheme of things as we see these products continue to be rolled out. Daikin already has the atmosphera being offered in our country. certain States already have A2l refrigerants passed as approved refrigerant use, so we're going to see more of these products coming out and I Just think as time goes on, we're going to see one or the other continue to be the winner.

In a lot of cases, the Gwp rating is low enough to meet a lot of the standards that are coming out, and as time goes on, we'll probably see refrigerants replace all of these A2l refrigerants that are being introduced to the market. In the meantime, R32 is going to most likely be the easier one to work with. It's going to be readily available. It's going to be a pure refrigerant, so you're not going to have these mixture issues that we've seen with other refrigerants in the past including 410A refrigerant when you compare R22 from the old days to 410A when it first came out, there was a big learning curve there where guys had to learn how to work with a higher pressure refrigerant but also with a blended refrigerant.

and the last thing I'll say is you're going to see it used a lot of places. With Daikin being the largest in America, you're going to see R32 systems being offered in almost every Market. Considering the fact that Daikin also manufactures the Goodman and Amana Brands so is this a sales thing Am I trying to sell you on R32 I Think in the grand scheme of things, homeowners are going to be worried more about other things than the refrigerant that's actually in the system. but I Do think that if you catch this video, this is something you need to consider before you make that next Purge purchase because of the investment that homeowners have to make when they're purchasing their heating and air systems.

Worrying about one more thing like which refrigerant is in that system is not fun. but if you know the facts then maybe you'll be able to make a more educated decision on that. Maybe it will play a role in the decision you make before you spend that money. And finally, let's wrap up with is this something that you have been concerned about If you've been keeping an eye on these A2l refrigerants that are being introduced to the market and does this play a role in your decision making when you're buying a heating and air system I'd Love to hear about that.

Please comment down below. it'll be interesting see how this all shakes out. In the end, we might be having a totally different conversation 10 years from now when it comes to this stuff. Anyway, thanks for watching.

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19 thoughts on “Refrigerants 410a out! r32 in! here’s why!”
  1. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Steve Bennett says:

    And the customers and us are getting fucked by the epa

  2. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars RJ S says:

    how do the pressures compare between r-32 & 410A?

  3. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Sam says:

    Can 410a be replaced with 32?

  4. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars ๐Ÿ’ฐ Make $749 Per Day says:

    "You can do anything, but not everything." —

  5. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars ๐Ÿ’ฐ Make $749 Per Day says:

    "Success is … knowing your purpose in life, growing to reach your maximum potential, and sowing seeds that benefit others." –John C. Maxwell

  6. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Clay Godfrey says:

    My 13 year old ac just went out Wednesday evening and we are looking at purchasing a whole new system. Do either of these refrigerate affect the inflation reduction act tax credit? Thank you. Service area Kanata??

  7. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars David Johnson says:

    R470A may be future. R32 has too many dangers when mixed with heat strip or furnace. Are you in Ottawa ?

  8. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars ttt14 says:

    Rheem 3 1/2 ton air handler and heat pump install cost 9,000 total? Is that the going rate for Virginia 2023?

  9. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Carl Lungwitz says:

    What is the GWP of R32?, is it A2L? Or A3.

  10. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Brian Hopkins says:

    Oh goody, more expensive, less effective. good thing .gov loves us. (not)

  11. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Home Rapid Repair says:

    I canโ€™t keep up with all the a/c changes ๐Ÿ˜‚

  12. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Nick S says:

    Can my existing R410a use R32?

  13. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Garth Clark says:

    Here is the big problem when it comes down to the overall impact for "the planet". For a homeowner the cost of HVAC has to make sense, in its efficiency, cost to operate and initital cost to install. When the DOE/EPA decides its time to get "cleaner" and makes all of these changes since the day of R12, the cost to move up from an existing and working HVAC doesn't make any financial sense nor do the added benefits per home. However, from the views of the EPA/DOE, the small benefits that are financially NOT feasible to one homeowner are looked upon as a whole, meaning the entire USA or an entire state population of HVAC's. When you add those up, there is a benefit in being "clean" however they ignore the cost of this benefit.
    Those same groups are doing the same thing with energy production such as wind mill generators that are very expensive, have environmental concerns, do not produce energy 24×7 and have high maintenance costs. Yet they push these ideas without any concern for the costs being weighed for the actual net benefits overall. The public are being forced to spend their money on energy products that have counter values from the get go. Some areas in the USA benefit from heat pumps, some don't and some benefit from natural gas while some don't or don't have access to it yet the feds and the states are forcing the public to spend extra amounts of money, in some cases its 8 times more, to operate new HVAC systems plus the cost of being forced to replace older systems with new "approved" systems when they are at the end of their life.
    Its as if the DOE/EPA wants their views to take hold overnight vs. performed over the next decade or two like it has been for decades. People are being robbed of their money and many of them are retired which means they have to use their savings vs. income to meet these standards way too soon to make any sense.
    R32 has one benefit in my opinion, its efficiency if that is true. The rest of those "benefits" on their list are mostly hogwash reasons. Also, when these experts suggest a new refrigerant is better than an older or existing one, they need to put up a chart and show us how much better it is compared to R12 or R22 and at the prices of those refrigerants when they were the norm in HVAC.

  14. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars OhioPat says:

    I think not being a blend sells me on it. It removes a bunch of variables like you said.

  15. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Jax Angela says:

    Perfect example of excelllent thought leadership content. Mega props to you and your marketing team — you all are definitely doing it right!

  16. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars bob boscarato says:

    Joshua I think EPA will come up with other refrigerants in a couple of years or so to add to the confusion and service companies will need a trailer to carry all the refrigerant tanks!๐Ÿ˜†

  17. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars optionstraderdan says:

    I will likely have to replace my vintage 1999 R22 Trane XL1800 5 ton dual compressor home system in the near future and I like the idea of the R32 primarily for the reasons you outlined, but especially because the availability of the refrigerant should be plentiful and reasonably priced. I think the ridiculous price of R22 and others has a lot to do with the licensing, patents and greed, kind of like drugs. Once the patent expires, the pill drops from $150 each to $1.50 each, and the availability goes through the roof. I will be specifically looking for a new system that has R32 for sure.

  18. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Steve Murzyn says:

    R-32 should have been implemented long ago. Service area Nepean??

  19. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars SEEMORE45 says:

    I think that if they , being the powers at hand , are going to force the industry into this direction then they also need to standardize the type refrigerant that will be used ASAP . If they don't then the cost not only to the homeowner but to the service providers is going to get out of hand fast. The HVAC companies will have to have two trucks or vans for each service call to be able to have the right equipment on hand to service the unit, not knowing which type refrigerant they would be working with before hand .

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