In this quick class we cover run capacitors, how the are rated, how they are tested and how they work.
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All right so we're going to talk a little bit about capacitors. Here, let's go ahead and just put to put the meter on the capacitor scale. We will measure what we've got and just see see where we stand. So the first thing you always want to do is look at what the rating is.

So what's the rating of what you got in your hand, 20 micro, farad, 20 microfarads. Now there's a voltage rating on there too. What does it say, 370 or 440.? Okay? So a little trick there the reason why it says 370 or 440.. So here's why? Because there used to be 370 or there is 370 volt capacitors out there, but that's just the maximum rating that they can handle.

So 440 is better. But if people read 370 on it, they'll ask for a 370 volt capacitor to replace it, and so a lot of people didn't know that you could replace a 370 with a 440., so amrad and some others started printing 370 or 440 on the capacitors. Just so that way, everybody knew that it was compatible, but really, when you say 440 you're automatically saying 370 or 440., so 20 microfarads is the rating so go ahead and take the measurement and use the alligator clips, which is nice for this purpose. It was in a system you'd, make sure to discharge it first, but we are measuring 20.46.

So it's well within its rated operation. Now you're gon na notice, it's a little bit over is that a problem is 0.46 over a problem. No, what does it say? The tolerance is plus ten minus five plus ten or minus five. Okay, so plus ten would be acceptable.

Minus five would be acceptable interesting, and so what that's telling you is right out of the box. That's acceptable, i generally will say, plus or minus ten percent before i'm going to measure, mention it to a customer and really i'm saying minus 10, because you're almost never going to see plus 10 like we talked about in our previous video. So let's go ahead and test the other ones, real, quick and just see where everyone, where all of them stand seven and a half seven and a half all right, plus or minus six percent. Well, is it connected on there good 7.6? Okay, 7.6, all right, so that one is also within range of what it should be now this guy here just shows you the inside of a capacitor.

We got our um, basically sheets of mylar or whatever type of plastic that is with metal coatings on both sides and that storage of energy across that plastic between those two metal halves is what makes a capacitor a capacitor, which is why, when a capacitor starts to Get weak what's happening is, is that metal coating is breaking off and flaking off. It's very thin. The reason why modern capacitors fail and the old older ones didn't tend to fail is because they don't have as much foil or as much oil. The foil was thicker and the oil was better nowadays, the oil isn't as good and the foil isn't as thick.

That's why they don't last as long as they used to, although i do like the amrat capacitors, they do pretty well, let's take a look at this one here, because you can see what it should be. You got 10 microfarads between this red terminal and the center and then all around it shows you what the different ratings should be, but we've got a problem with this one and what's what's the problem here, it's bloated. So it looks like a toad that set out in the sun too long after he done got deceased, so this capacitor, we know, is bad. We don't even have to test it.
We're going to what happens is this is a design feature when it overheats pressure builds up and the top is designed to displace like that and it disconnects the terminal, so it actually intentionally disconnects. So that way, it doesn't explode, because, if you've seen some of these come fully apart, they make a giant mess as oil gets all over everything and is not pleasant. But we're going to go ahead and test it and see what we get so we'll do. The 20 microfarad yep and then the one in the center.

What do we got? We got the dashes of nothingness, which means that we have no microfarads. We have an open circuit because also this is auto ranging between microfarads and ohms. So we have no path whatsoever. Now some people will teach you on a capacitor to also check from the terminals to ground on the shell that used to be more of a common problem.

Nowadays, these are all plastic lined. You almost never see a capacitor shorted to ground anymore. That used to be a more common problem, so really not a test we do, but if you wanted to, you could take the terminals and measure to ground. So let's just show how you would do that real quick.

This is an example. That's it you just check from the different terminals around to make sure that nothing's grounded out, and in that case, if you measured something from a terminal to the casing, that would be a problem right, because that would mean that the internal plates or the wires in There somewhere were actually connecting to the metal just curious. How long ago did they use those kind of capacitors? So the question is: how long ago do they use those kind? You'll still see capacitors from the 90s 80s that are they're much larger physical size and, in some cases, they're even going to have a dot, which is the side that you need to connect to the common side. If it's a single cap, so you'll see some of these, where you'll have a dot on one side and that's the side that you're supposed to connect to common and the other side is designated to your herm or whatever start winding you're connecting it to modern capacitors.

Don't have that anymore, all right, so let's talk about what a capacitor actually does. What does a run? Capacitor do not talking about a start capacitor. What does it actually do? Stores and discharges, energy stores and discharges, energy, okay, yeah, so the blade or the compressor off runs filtering so that the comp you said so the compressor runs smoothly so that the motor, whatever motor it's connected to run smoothly. Okay, those are both true statements.
What do we connect the capacitor to what winding do we connect it to start connected to the start winding right now, whatever motor we're using? So if it's a blower motor condenser fan motor compressor, it's always going to the start winding. And if you pay attention to how they're wired you'll notice that one side of the the start winding part goes into one side of the capacitor and then the other side goes to the same side. That feeds run so, even though it says common, it doesn't get connected to the black side of the contactor and usually that's the side that we would call common. Generally speaking, right, you have the side, that's where you make your measurements on your contactor for your amperage, because that's your common for your windings, but your common for your capacitor connects to the same side that you connect run.

But here's what's actually happening inside that capacitor and it's what matthew said. You have energy a field, that's collecting on both sides and then releasing again collecting and releasing so again for every site. So you are seeing one side of this on the other side of this is another metal coating and the one side of all of those wraps connects on the bottom and that's common, and then your other wraps connect on top, which is the other side of that Plate, so basically, if you imagine in fact, they'll call those plates, it's as if you have two plates, but rather than you just having two plates with some plastic in between that are flat. You have two plates with plastic in between that's wrapped over and over and over and over and over again.

So the two sides don't touch. That's the point, just like a transformer and a transformer we have our primary and our secondary. These two sets of electrons never touch each other, it's induced through the iron core, the iron laminations here, in the same way that, on your transformer, these two sides don't touch on your capacitor, the common connections, which connect to one side and each one of these terminals. On the outside, or if you're looking at it here this side and this side, one side connects to the bottom.

The other side connects to the top, and you have two completely different sides to this plate. That's wrapped all around the circle that makes sense, so the electrons never go from this side. To this side. A lot of people assume that somehow it's boosting up the voltage - it's not when you measure a higher voltage across that capacitor.

What are you actually measuring? Have you ever done this, where you go across the capacitor when the system system's running and you measure the voltage, it's it's higher. It's not always it's not always a set thing, but it's always higher. Do you know why it's higher back feeding voltage, because the motor is a generator because the motor is acting as a generator exactly so the motor simultaneously as it's spinning that rotor is also inducing additional potential into the stator? So, while it's acting as a motor, it's also acting as a generator. That's what we call back emf back electromotive force back emf is showing up in our capacitor and the reason it's showing up is because our capacitor has this separation so that when it generates on the on the start winding side, it's actually showing up over here now, When it's connecting to alternating current, this capacitor is charging and discharging how many times a second 50 to 60 60 times a second in the us 50 in europe right depends on the hertz, that's the frequency, so it's charging and discharging that fast all the time.
So it's not storing energy for very long, but a capacitor is an energy storage device and in fact, if you, when you're measuring with your capacitor, how do you imagine that, when you put this thing in capacitance scale, how is it measuring the capacitance of that capacitor? Yeah jfm yeah: how does that work, just freaking magic, just freaking, magic, pfm ron, kerry, used to always say pfm, pure freaking magic. The question is: how does it measure it when you put your meter on the microfarad scale? How does it know what the microfarad of this capacitor is? Well, wouldn't it send a slight charge through it to read the difference that microfiber one millionth of a ferret right right, and that is a millionth of a volt or something now it's it's the actual. What the definition of a ferret - i don't remember what it is, but it's like a coulomb at one volt or something like that. One cool limit one voltage is sensing power, so it's in a very small amount.

It's just looking at because it this this meter knows how much potential it's giving, how much voltage it's giving and it's a very low voltage. We just measured it right and this meter is less than a volt, so it knows how much voltage it's giving. It knows how much pressure it's giving and it knows how much current it's taking at that pressure, so it can charge and discharge that capacitor and now it sees how much energy. Now again, i'm i'm acting like i've invented a meter, and i know exactly how this does this and i don't so i'm not uh.

Let me let me be clear here, but that is how it does it right actually send them. Power function correct. So the meter is charging and discharging that capacitor and then it's looking at how much energy that was required to do that. That's basically what it's doing now, exactly how it's doing it and the math and all that stuff.

I don't. I don't know. I just know that is what it's doing. It's literally charging this capacitor now, why isn't it dangerous now? Why doesn't it shock me? It's such a low voltage because it's a very low voltage.

So here's the lesson the capacitor is only charged to whatever voltage it's given. It cannot boost voltage, it's not a voltage booster. Let's do the experiment. Take our nine volt battery here.
Put this on volts dc, make sure first that we've got nine volts coming out of it. Yup nine point six volts, so we got a good nine volt battery. All right now take your jumper leads and wire your nine volt battery up to this 20 microfarad capacitor. Don't try this at home.

Kids. Actually, it's fine! If you try this at home, it's not dangerous at all. You guys are afraid of a nine volt battery. Come on give me a break, give it a second go ahead and disconnect your leads off the capacitor make sure they don't touch each other when you're doing so.

All right now measure the voltage on your capacitor. I've actually never done this before. So i'm really hoping that this works properly. Not only does it read nine volts, it reads exactly what the battery gave it for once that experiment went the way i hoped it would go without prior testing.

It's actually discharging because the meter, even though this is a very low impedance meter, it's actually discharging through the meter itself, meaning impedance means resistance. So this meter has a resistance, and it's literally that that power is trickling through. If you disconnect it, it'll hold its charge. It'll stop trickling, there's a reason why that same experiment doesn't work as well on alternating current, though so.

If i were to do that exact same experiment, and i was to do it with 120 volts, i would take that capacitor and wire it up to 120 volts. I wouldn't necessarily get exactly 120 volts on the capacitor, and i want your theories on why that is because it's alternating okay, so what does that mean so it would. It would literally depend on the moment that i disconnected that lead where it was at. So i could read anything from zero to one across it.

Actually above 120., because 120 is called rms voltage. We actually run higher than that. So when we measure 120 on a meter, your meter is doing a calculation, an rms calculation and it's looking at that average. You want to do it.

You can get shark pretty good doing this. So let's do it! Well, maybe we'll just shut the camera off before we don't do that test. We're absolutely not going to do that test because it's not safe. Wear your masks at home.

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40 thoughts on “Run capacitor fundamentals class”
  1. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Leroy Smith says:

    No mask at home, that is silly

  2. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars OthmanEmpire says:

    Thanks for the video =)

  3. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Jay pimmalai says:

    Thank you for your great video
    Best instructions ever to learn on line Are you in Nepean ?

  4. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Kreg Chapman says:

    Thanks for the video, it is great learning the wiring of compressor and fan capacitors. Way back in the 80s when I worked on cars, one of the practical jokes was to take a ignition capacitor and charge it with a spark plug wire and the lay it somewhere where you know someone would pick it up and of course it would shock them 🙂

  5. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Technical says:

    Lots of thanks sir
    Your videos are really good and helped

  6. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Rick Via says:

    No professional HVAC experience here. Great instruction and your principles are solid (from this old electrical/ electronics guy). Especially at the end: RMS 120VAC = 170 V-Peak

  7. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Michael Mantion says:

    Why are you wearing face diapers? Are you in Orleans ?

  8. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Frank Montez says:

    I can't get to coils to check / clean unless I take it apart even more quite extensively than I have so far and so I guess I'm going to try replacing blower motor capacitor . Coils sitting on top of furnace and I would have to cut freon and drain lines . Yes it might be very dirty but don't wnat to go further and capacitor is only $12 . That might work ?

  9. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Sam Andrew says:

    What were the details of the dangerous test that they wanted to do? I couldn't hear what the bad idea was.

    Are you not able to connect 120v to the capacitor using a switch, then turn the switch off, and then measure the voltage? Are you in Kanata ?

  10. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars iLoveNYthisMuch iLoveNewYorkThisMuch says:

    where can i find those alligator clips off that meter?

  11. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Siddharth Gargi says:

    Good teacher Service area Kanata??

  12. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Hog says:

    Wear your mask at home?? Lol are you in fauci's Pocket?

  13. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars IVAN MADRIGAL says:

    HEY guys you talking to fast please try talking a little bit slowly BTW your videos are fantastic

  14. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Bryce Lawmaster says:

    thumbed down purely cause you all had masks on.

  15. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Deoran Ferguson says:

    Really wish I work here man so much knowledge

  16. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars joe head says:

    RPM-run/power to the marked side, never seen one. Understand the marked side terminal is the plate closest to the housing and would short to the can and kick the breaker.

  17. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Damon0mania says:

    Now try explaining how a mask works to that ol' dude. I'd love to see that tutorial.

  18. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Tomorrowsyoutube says:

    Where do I get those multimeter leads?

  19. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Super Duper says:

    The meter has high impedance when measuring voltage…not low impedance. This makes the discharge go slowly

  20. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Dylan Drymond says:

    Well done. We're always learning. Thanks again. Service area Barrhaven??

  21. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Randall Sammons says:

    The run capacitor creates a 90 degree phase shift in current when properly sized for the load with ac going through it. This causes a rotating magnetic field around the rotor.

  22. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars N. Ramos says:

    Does a motor still run if the run capacitor is bad?
    Or still runs but doesn't run as it supposed to?
    Please help. Service area Ottawa??

  23. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars JK Brown says:

    There's a channel Ludic Science that has a video 'Making a High Voltage Capacitor' out of 3 disposable plates, a couple pieced of aluminum foil and baby oil. Very good if you need a visual of what makes a capacitor. They just roll something like that up in the can for run caps. Also, his 'Electrical Reactance Demonstration' video is the best for seeing how inductors/windings and capacitors act like resistors in AC series circuits.

  24. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Eli says:

    Hey I wanna see that last experiment. 😂

  25. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Joe DC says:

    62 years old. I have been in the HVAC Trade since my early Teens in my Dad's Marine AC Biz. I am now Manager of Technical training for Home Serve USA and found all your Videos to be a great resource. And accurate.

  26. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars eastcoasthvac says:

    What brand meter leads are those?

  27. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Michael Costello says:

    Did you do the capacitor test ?? with AC voltage . What were the results

  28. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Luke Teyssier says:

    mF usually means milifarad, no microfarad, uF

  29. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars MY PLANET says:

    Nico information

  30. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Waylon Levins says:

    PFM LOL! I think “the math” is probably based on this equation. Amps x 2652 / Volts=MFD. For example you can check a capacitor on a running system without disconnecting by measuring the amps on the start wire multiplied by the constant 2,652, and then dividing that number by the voltage across the capacitor terminals. This trick comes in handy in situations when shutting the system down is not an option or when using a meter that doesn’t measure MFD.

  31. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars a11ten071 says:

    Thank you!

  32. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Bobcat Arts says:

    Me: Your capacitor failed. Needs replaced.
    Customer: BUT I JUST REPLACED IT 6 YEARS AGO. THEY DON"T MAKE THEM LIKE THEY USED TO! RAAAWWRRR!
    Me: You're right, they don't! It's cheaper, thinner materials so they fail faster. Your system is failing now. Starting with the capacitor.
    Customer: GET OUT!

  33. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Herb Levin says:

    A/c's will have complete diagnostics on board with blue tooth to your router and will be monitored by your A/c company & manufacturer. Reading will be continuous and diagnostics codes thrown will alert the A/c service and manufacture.

  34. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Saints Gun says:

    I wish fieldpiece meters would display OL. I don't have one. I've been using a UEI. But that's a little petty thing I don't like lol

  35. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Trust_Jesus1213 says:

    You need to a video within the next week before my final exam lol!!! A video on how the electrical is hooked up on a wooden simulator board thing in our classroom showing the wiring from the the thermostat to the transformer, contactor, heat relay, indoor fan relay, compressor, electric heat, indoor fan and outdoor fan!! I bet you $100 bucks you can't make this electrical video with a week!! Really lol 🤷‍♂️ Service area Orleans??

  36. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Luke Grinder says:

    More of these types of videos please Bryan. Great stuff man.

  37. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Vincent Gelles says:

    Where can I get the alligator clip meter leads that you guys were using in the video? I don’t care for the ones that came with my Fieldpiece meter so I bought some Amprobe alligator clips which look similar to the ones in the video but much larger. And by much larger I mean way too large. I like the ones in the video, they look like just the right size for me

  38. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars John A says:

    Always good info.

  39. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars more jello please says:

    rumor has it they're still putting out the fire from that off-camera test

  40. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Christopher Smith says:

    The next generation of techs will be much more ethical and efficient with access to good training like this!

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