In this video, Joshua Griffin goes through a big fight going on in Washington over high-efficiency furnaces, and whether or not homeowners will have the ability to purchase low-efficiency furnaces in the future. He goes through the pros and cons of each argument while sharing some of the arguments from politicians on both sides. And finally, he covers whether this is a good or bad thing for your future when purchasing HVAC equipment.
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The Bot Administration is taking aim at gas burning appliances, including the gas furnaces in your home. The Department of Energy has said that these new Energy Efficiency regulations would slash household utility costs by $ 1.5 billion on an annual basis while reducing greenhouse gas emissions from the residential sector. According to the Doe, this proposal would require non weatherized gas furnaces and those used in mobile homes to achieve a far higher level of efficiency than the cheaper models that are on the market. Jennifer Grome, who is the Energy Secretary Said quote at the direction of Congress Doe is continuing to review and finalize energy standards for household appliances such as residential furnaces to lower costs for Working Families by reducing energy use and slashing harmful pollutants in homes.

Across The Nation Before I go any further in this article that we're referencing I will put a link to to this article in the description of this video. but I Just want to say if you're watching this, I'm curious what your thoughts are on this. Do you like it When the government is trying to raise standards on how efficient a furnace has to be? Maybe to save you money, but I think we all know when they do this. it makes it to where the barrier to entry the purchase of these products does go up.

And I'm curious. Do you like that? Do you want them to make you save money? but you've got to pay more money on the front end. Let me know what your thoughts are down in the comments. but I will tell you later in this video.

I'm going to share a couple stories with you where we had some successes in this department at my company, but we'll get to that in just a moment. I Wanted to take a quick break from the video and thank the sponsor of this video Aeros Seal Leaky Duck Work is one of the biggest if not the biggest energy wasters in most homes in the United States and my favorite way of fixing that problem is Aeros Seal. They'll come into your your home, they'll test your duct work and how leaky it is. They'll seal all the duct work with a machine and then they'll test it again and make sure that you got what you paid for.

Customers have reported a significant savings on their energy bills after using Aeros Seal. I'll put a link down in the description of this video. Thanks again to Aeros Seal and now let's get back to the video. Today's measure, along with the administration's past and planned energy efficiency actions, underscores President Biden's commitment to save Americans money and deliver healthier communities.

she continued and so before I go any further with this article. I Just want to put a Quick Clip here from a recent interview with a Republican named Bill Johnson out of Ohio where he referenced some of these efforts and whether it's a good or bad thing, well, it's not more efficient. Uh, not only is it not more efficient, but it's more costly. Uh to uh to to remodify your home to handle electric ranges I can tell you I represent Eastern and Southeastern Ohio which is very rural here I Don't know very many people in my district that can afford to have their homes rewired uh to handle electric ranges and uh, um, electric furnaces.
Uh, that's not going to work for the people that I represent The Doe's finalized regulations, which are slated to go into effect in the year 2028 specifically require an AFU rating of 95% meaning manufacturers would not only have to sell furnaces that convert at least to 95% of fuel into the heat within 6 years, the current market Standard of AFU for residential furnaces is 80% and I Want to point out one thing. This is not just a matter of saying hey, all furnaces need to be more efficient. Another thing that should be mentioned is if you are going to go from say, an 80% furnace to a high efficiency condensing furnace like 95% the flu vent may need to be changed out so it's not just swapping a box. You might have to swap way more than that, so just keep that in mind as you consider for your home what you're going to do As far as furnaces go, Because of the stringent AFU requirements, the regulations would largely take non-condensing gas furnaces which are generally less efficient but cheaper off the market, but consumers who replace non-condensing furnaces with condensing furnaces after the rule is implemented face: Hefty Installation cost and I Got to tell you, the furnace itself is not a big deal, just swapping a box but that fluent that I was telling you about.

And also when it's a condensing furnace now you've got to figure out what are you going to do with this. You know, water, when a condensing furnace has to have a somewhere to drain to, you might have to install a pump. You might have to redo the drain work if it's a furnace that already had air conditioning already had a coil on. It may not be as big of a deal, but it is something you need to know.

Richard Meyer Who's Vice President of Energy Markets Analysis and Standards at the American Gas Association Previously told Fox News Quote: There are some really technical reasons why this is such a concerning rule unquote and so he goes more into what I was just talking about the flu Vents and some of the other things you're going to have to do to meet these newer standards. You could definitely check out that article that I was telling you about if you're curious. The article goes on to say that these regulations would remove up to 60% of the current residential furnaces off the market. However, the Department of Energy said in its announcement that the gas furnaces account for only 19% of annual Us residential energy use, meaning that higher efficiency would save energy and therefore curb emissions.

It projected that the regulations Friday would cut carbon emissions by 332 million metric tons over the next three decades. I Think we can all agree if this is true, that doing things for the environment is a good thing. I Think where a lot of folks will get frustrated is when it comes at a cost to them and their family, when it affects their income, when it affects how much they've got to pay for utility costs and how much food they can put on the table with their family. what are your thoughts? Comment down below.
I'd love to hear that. In addition to Consumer furnaces, over the last several months, the Doe has unveiled new standards for a wide variety of appliances including gas stoves, cloth washers, refrigerators, and air conditioners which we've done other videos on those it referenced all this earlier in the article it talked about mobile homes. I Can tell you that a lot of homes that are installed cheaply. so if they installed a mobile home furnace of some type, gas or electric with an outdoor unit, a lot of times they were going with the cheapest thing they can find.

And this isn't just mobile homes, this is homes in general. A lot of Builders are constantly just going with the cheapest thing just to get the house built. And one thing I'll encourage you to do is to not just consider the efficiency of the gas furnaces self, but the technology itself. Maybe explore options, get quotes we have customers I was telling you I would I would tell you a success story.

We've had customers at our company that had electric furnaces with a straight AC outdoor unit or a gas furnace with a straight AC outdoor unit. and if that gas is LP gas which it is in a lot of rural areas, then both of those options can get quite pricey in the winter time and so when you go to replace that system I would highly encourage you to maybe consider a dual fuel system or a heat pump outside that, if nothing else, it can run heat. on those mild days you're not burning gas, you're not burning an electric furnace with higher electric bills. And we had one customer specifically who saved hundreds.

Not a little bit of money per month, but hundreds of dollars per month. In fact, we did the math and within the first year of putting in the system that we put in, she saved enough on her electric bill because she had an electric furnace that it paid for itself in the first year. so every year after that, she was saving money. So I'll wrap up with this: I Don't think this is the end of all this I think that over the next decade we're going to see more regulations coming out.

higher standards on some of the appliances we install in our home good or bad, and I think it's going to dramatically affect how expensive a lot of these things are. I'm not saying it's a bad thing to get a system that's more efficient, but there were times when maybe you would would have gone with something less efficient. Maybe you were selling the homes you don't care what the utility bills are going to be like. Now you're going to have no choice with some of these higher standard equipment.
If they cost more, you're going to have to bite the bullet and pay that extra cost. So if you like this video I Think you'll like this one even more. It's where I Talk about six reasons why your furnace may not be working. Thanks for watching Hit that subscribe button.

We'll see you next time.

13 thoughts on “Big fight over furnaces in dc!”
  1. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Zachary Johnson says:

    Perhaps a compromise regulation would be “you can install a <90% efficient furnace but only as part of a dual fuel system and only if the heat pump lockout isn’t user-serviceable.”

    Such a regulation would give space to people who can’t practically install proper venting and condensate drainage or for whom a heat pump can’t reasonably meet their low-temperature heating requirements, but at the same time it would still ensure that the furnace nearly never runs (meaning it’s suboptimal efficiency would be irrelevant).

    Problem is I’m guessing don’t nobody make a packaged dual fuel system with a low efficiency furnace—why would they when the only people buying dual fuel implicitly want a highly efficient heat pump? Are you in Ottawa ?

  2. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars J Lee says:

    They want total control=Energy-Food and then Money CBDC it's not about the environment.

  3. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Zachary Johnson says:

    I think with the majority of hvac professionals being a risk-averse bunch of folks—very reasonably trying to avoid customer callbacks because they’re “uncomfortable”—there isn’t much choice about mandating more efficient equipment. It takes all the blame away from the contractor so that they don’t have to worry about installing the right equipment; if the customer is mad blame the government.

    Without a mandate contractors are going to keep doing “what they know works.” If I owned a business that’s what I would do…

  4. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Mical Caterina says:

    I would love to believe government is working towards a positive and cost efficient solution for homeowners but I don't believe a F^&*g word out of DC. These clowns spend more time bashing each other, making wild statements. (IE:MTG) Who in their right mind would believe their doing anything for us? Most of our representatives are clueless and couldn't find their own A$$es with both hands…Most of our representatives are bought and paid for by lobbyists. Lastly, the article you referenced is from Fox News, another of those questionable sources… (yea right) End of rant…

  5. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars ivan nightly says:

    As usual they quote the total number over the industry of savings which is a pure estimate, how about listing the savings a year per house because if I only save a few hundred am I going to be realistically happy about spending the extra $2000 to put it in, this is the numbers that matter to the average guy. I'm all for encouraging high standards but not every body has cash so no I dont want to see them mandatory, Poor families who couldnt afford it, if mandatory would be forced to continue with there older furnace than upgrade to a better one that may actually increase emissions and is the likely result if you think about it.

  6. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Lord Terry of Franklin says:

    Not only more money on the front end, but parts costs are out of sight. Then there are the constant calls to contractors to keep these expensive POS running. The government should keep their GD noses out of the private sector. Service area Nepean??

  7. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Donovan Lewis says:

    Most of this is common sense stuff that we should have been doing this a long time ago, the congress man you showed is just pandering to oil and gas lobby. I just replaced a regular electric water heater with a heat pump water heater and it's using 70% less electricity. It will pay for itself in under 18 months. It should be the standard today. People have to stop being scared of new energy efficient stuff because most of this stuff has already been used and tested in Europe and Asia for a decade +.

  8. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Wil Mue49 says:

    Good video, but a little heavy at the beginning on advocating for the fossil fuel "cheaper" alternatives and making higher standards "gummint overreach". Isn't it a bit hypocritical when you promote Aeroseal for consumer cost savings, and then criticize the Feds for requiring higher operating efficiency which will save consumer $$ over the life of the appliance. I guess the "business ethics", in your neck of the woods, are down with installing the cheapest inefficient junk available so the property can be "flipped", and it becomes "the next guys" problem! Show the lifetime $$ numbers next time for for low vs high efficiency, and let the consumer decide if the Feds are trying to "take away their rights".

  9. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Garth Clark says:

    Its wonderful to know manufacturers can develop more efficient products however, not if they are forced to. Why? Because mandates are a terrible communicator to anyone in business or as citizens. Our society is smart enough to know what is best for them, its been that way for centuries. Government wasn't having any part of that, successful manufacturing and service was all about that. This is no different than the Feds or the State telling people who have swimming pools they will soon be illegal. Its no different than outlawing the $5 bill one day. Folks already have them and shouldn't have to take a loss just because someone in Govt feels they are a waste or inefficient.

    We all know and have known for decades that natural gas is cheap and there is plenty of it. It's more available than oil in this country yet the liars in Government would have you believe that for all of these EPA/CARB and DOE decades of the past, they suddenly find that gas is not good? It's B.S. Folks have private property rights…screw those idiots trying to politicize our markets. Everyone with an IQ also knows that to use electricity, you have to make it and its made with generators that use natural gas, hydro, coal, wind, solar etc. and of them all, the most reliable and cleanest is natural gas plus its less expensive except for coal. So, you still have to burn gas to have power consistently and when the sun is gone. People are wrong about solar being the best because it requires filthy manufacturing processes to mine and use the materials to make panels, it isn't working at night and it isn't producing enough power and won't all on its own without backup power sources.

    Think about, we have third graders in office telling the many Government run agencies such as EPA and DOE what to force onto the public in the name of their green dreams. Most of the engineers are laughing at them. And in CA, they won't sell an internal combustion powered vehicle in 2035 forcing folks to buy electric, not hybrids but all electric ! By that time the state will be outlawing gasoline, diesel, limiting it, closing fuel stations, likely working with insurance companies and DMV to make them too expensive to use etc. That's not a free market and it will eventually become a doomsday cluster F.

    HVAC is already in hundreds of million of homes and buildings yet all of a sudden, the DOE (Biden) wants us to believe that electric everything is the way to save. That is complete utter B.S.
    If they want heat pumps and other things like electric water heaters and stoves, that should only apply to new construction. Just think of the wasted money if the USA will suffer because a replacement HVAC will require every structure to be "updated, current codes and other requirements" just the replace a gas water heater or a gas furnace or stove. Few homes were built to have extra space in their main electric panels. Few homes have the plumbing, electrical, build etc. to suddenly inherit completely different appliances. This isn't all as most installs are going to require all new ducts, vents, intakes, returns, exhaust and mounting locations. It's a major major flop that any home will adapt cheaply and then even more of a flop that the utility bill is going to be less. In many areas, the energy bill will increase overall as some locations have high electric rates, like CA and NY. Funny how high dense populous locations can't sell power as cheap as those in the rural or suburban areas. It's all political…its all a rip off. Think back a decade or two, electricity was not a subject, we had it, used it, got the bill and easily paid it. NOT TODAY.

  10. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars SFL says:

    Problem is many politicians are supporting big oil companies because of the campaign donations they get and it’s in the millions. I look at the environment and not some paid guy who is supported by certain politicians. I am glad that Biden is taking this issue seriously and not destroying the plant.

  11. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars SFL says:

    Everywhere around the world they are making new changes, funny Europe has been way ahead of us , even split systems have been around for years.

  12. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Jacob says:

    I like energy efficiency standards. I wish they were higher. They save you money and help protect the environment.

  13. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Joe Scott says:

    Two strikes 1) these rules are being proposed "at the direction of congress" President Biden does not care about furnace rules and 2) you are quoting FAUX NEWS………………..

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