In this video, Joshua Griffin discusses a concern many homeowners have when they have a multi-zone mini-split system. Most of these systems can not heat and cool at the same time having two different indoor units in a different modes. These units must be in the same mode if installed on the same outdoor unit for the system to operate. Joshua gives a solution to this issue that many systems that are used more in commercial atmospheres with heat recovery technology. Installing one of these systems in a home may give a homeowner added capability and comfort.
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Chapters
0:00 Intro: Multizone Minisplit issue
0:39 Units in the same mode
1:20 Heat Recovery
2:10 Line Sets
2:38 Daikin 4
3:12 Outro: What to look for
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Hey guys I Thought I would do a video on this after our live show that we do every Tuesday night. One of the questions we were getting was someone talking about how they have a multi-zone mini split. So they have one outdoor unit with multiple indoor heads or evaporator units whatever you want to call them and they didn't get real specific on what they have exactly inside. Meaning do they have wall mount units? Do they have floor? Mount units ducted? many splits? We didn't get into all of that, but one of the things they were talking about is how they have to have all of the units in the same mode and how big of a headache that could be Sometimes, especially if you have a little bit of a larger home and you might have a unit on one floor and you want to switch it from cooling to heating, you've got to run upstairs to get the other unit moved over to the same mode and things like that it sometimes can be.

You know, a little less fun, right? just trying to get them all in the same mode so you can get a little heat and so you know this is a problem that is not on common that there are multiple systems out there. Multiple Brands making systems, different types of systems that have the same function. It's the technology that's in the system that all of the units have to be in the same mode, so that way you can turn it from one mode to the other and again, it could be quite inconvenient at times. Well, there is a solution out there and I will say it's very limited.

It's not like there are tons of residential systems out there that have this technology, but the verbiage you want to be looking for. If you are in the market for a heating and air system, you've got your heart set on Mini Splits of some kind and you want to have the functionality or the ability to have one zone in cooling one zone and heating one zone off and so on. You want different modes on different units even though they're all still sharing that same outdoor unit. And the verbiage you're looking for is something called heat recovery.

That's the verbage that a lot of the brands are using. It's the type of technology that the system uses, and all of these systems typically have three sets of line sets instead of just two. So usually when you have a split system and you have your copper lines, you might have a larger one and cooling mode. We'll call that the suction line and then we call the smaller line the liquid line.

But in these heat recovery units, there's actually three line sets. and you know again, it's the technology. so that refrigerant can be flowing through them in different directions and so on. So as you're looking across the industry the array of products you want to be finding ones that say heat recovery on them.

we are a Daikin dealer. Daikin has their Daikin 4 Series heat recovery. They do make the Daikin 4 heat recovery series all the way down to six tons. So you know if you have a larger home you're trying to get multiple Mini Splits installed.
You can do up to 12 indoor units on this Daikin 4 heat Recovery Unit and again, they could be in different modes so this isn't a commercial for that necessarily. There are other brands and other products out there with that heat recovery technology. Just thought I would throw one out there that you could look at. So wrapping up, if this is the type of technology that you're looking for, I would definitely stick to some of the bigger Brands out there like Daikin and Mitsubishi and these mini split kings if you will.

I would not just settle for any old unit on the internet that says heat recovery, but you are going to most likely have to go with some sort of Vrf or Vrv system where the refrigerant is variable, but that's a whole topic for a whole nother video. You want to look for units that say heat recovery. That's the verbiage you're looking for. If you want that functionality, let me know if this helps.

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7 thoughts on “Ductless mini split that can heat and cool together!”
  1. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Gary Smith says:

    Josh, I have always liked your honesty in describing pros and cons with HVAC gear. May I add. Commenting before and receiving a reply from you in the comment section let me say a bit of something I found with my Mitsu system. I have 3 handlers on a 30K btu ODU. I learned last year (my first year with the new setup), not only the well known fact about what you state here about heat or cooling only at a time but……

    I found out, at least with this brand, you CAN NOT even run it in FAN mode in any one air handler unless they are ALL in FAN mode ! I wanted to leave AC on in the main part of the home, but just circulate air in the master bedroom while sleeping. Simply put, could NOT do it. I am not sure if other brands have this same scheme or not. What can you add?

    Thanks, and I do catch your Tuesday night 'shows' 🙂

  2. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars ChrispyCritter says:

    Hi Josh! Thanks so much for all of your info on the ins and outs of mini splits. I had lived in Tokyo for 6 years back in the early 2000s and I had LOVED both my Daikin and National (the parent company of Panasonic) units. They were so awesome to have since the humidity in most of Japan is just awful in the summer. Do you happen to know of any Daikin or Mitsubishi installers here in my home state of Colorado/Denver area that are reputable (or perhaps your Daikin sales rep may know)? If you don't that's OK. I'm just trying to find someone locally like yourselves that do a great job as an HVAC tech and know how to install/repair these units. Thanks again! Christine in sunny CO

  3. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Ted Bell says:

    I want one that actually makes snow in my house Service area Nepean??

  4. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Kathleen Kroll says:

    Thanks for the info, very helpful. Have you done a video on a ducted minisplit system? Looking to replace my central system with apparently a heat recovery unit!

  5. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Ryan says:

    Wow that was my question in the live stream. Great to see you made a video about it. I’m very interested to see this technology come to more residential products in the future and see all the brands compare to made it better for customers overall. Having more choice is good. I know LG has LGRed that is available for residential. Most other brands have it available also but in light commercial systems that can still be used for residential.

  6. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars eric mac says:

    i have been doing heating and air for like 8 years now. im in Pennsylvania and any mini split system i had a service call on is a nightmare. tech support for hours–2 week wait for parts. –control boards that cost 400 dollars. i would just tell customers to stick to the old school stuff. parts easy to find . i work on alot of boilers up here–mainly steam but some reg boilers, but also probably around the 50,s and 60,s. reg central air i think is better and just shut your heat vent if your too cold.

  7. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Bruce Elias says:

    Hi Grif

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