So, ah, it's time to chill out and get ready for a mediocre q, a live stream if you're old enough grab yourself your favorite adult beverage and if you're not stick with apple juice, put your feet up and relax. If you have any questions, feel free to ask them in the chat and now, let's queue up the intro music, so yo. What is up everybody? Hopefully, you guys are doing well just uh trying to wake myself up because i'm tired for some reason some hot tea, keep me going. You know what's funny as i get older, something like hot tea.

I look forward to it like i can go. You know. I look forward to waking up in the morning to have coffee like i am excited to get up in the morning to have a cup of coffee, and then i look forward in the same way to have a cup of hot tea. At the end of the day, of course, in my shameless plug hvac overtime, yeti cup that nobody can buy, so why am i even plugging it, but maybe someday? So if you guys don't already know on the hvac overtime, youtube channel uh, it's a channel that my buddies and i all do a show on um adam joe bill myself.

We do a show on the hvac overtime youtube channel on friday evenings about 6 p.m. Pacific time uh, what is it like? 9, 00 p.m. Eastern time, um, it's just a relaxed show, and i got ta say so. We are currently having someone work on a website for us and we're having a lot of fun with this right.

We kind of talked about it on the overtime channel, but um we're talking about because they're gon na like set up merch and stuff like that. And but it's really funny because we all had to like come up with bios and stuff. And then we have this person. That's writing our website information like an editor, that's kind of proofreading it and changing it and stuff and uh.

We talked about it on the overtime show, but she sent a message not to us but to the person. That's that's handling. The whole process for us and was basically saying that, like she, doesn't understand our humor on the show it kind of disgusts her just. It was just really funny - and it's kind of hilarious, to think that someone who doesn't normally talk like myself and my friends and if you guys don't know if you haven't watched the overtime show you have to go, watch it and you'll understand.

It is a completely uncensored show where sometimes we talk about hvac. Sometimes we talk about gibberish, whatever um. I've definitely shared a lot of stories about myself, um, it's it's pretty funny. So anyways we were just kind of reading the first draft edit of the website and everything, and it was it just made me, laugh so hard, because just knowing that these bios, that we wrote for each other and then this lady's having to edit this stuff.

And it's just hilarious, but anyways. I hope you guys are doing well see a lot of people going through in the chat right now. Please do me a favor guys. It really does help out the stream smash the thumbs up button interact in the chat.

It just helps youtube to recognize that you guys are here and that i am a person uh, so many people stream on youtube and stuff so um it uh. It would be nice, so hello to everybody. That's in there. I really appreciate all the support you guys coming in here.

This is awesome. Thank you. So very much um, let's see uh yeah, exactly um, so uh, exactly everybody in the chat right now is talking about all the different stuff. That's in there.

So when i said i share some stories from myself, everybody in the chat is blowing me up right now, because a lot of them are stories and poop stories. Oh man, that is hilarious, yeah. You guys there's a whole different side to me that if, if you strictly watch this channel and these live streams, you would never even recognize the person that is on the hvac overtime show because um i go from a censored somewhat censored. Person on this stream to a completely uncensored person on the other stream, we're usually drinking and being silly and just having a good time.

So it's actually something i look forward to you know friday nights. I look forward to just relaxing and talking with my buddies and - and we just have a good time so definitely go check out the overtime channel um joe, if you could throw in a link to the overtime channel that'd be great if you get a chance. So, as usual guys, i got a bunch of stuff. I want to talk about um.

I want to get to your guys's questions in the live chat. If you guys have things that you want me to talk about, put them in caps, lock i'll try to get to them. If i don't answer them right away, go ahead and repost them again until my self-real moderator tells you to stop posting them. Okay, because sometimes i go off on a rant, i'm about to go off on a rant right now and i'm gon na ignore the chat for a few minutes.

So a lot of stuff's going to go by. So if i, if i don't see it, throw it back in there, if i miss your question, all together feel free to send me an email to hvac our videos gmail.com. So what i wanted to start this off with you know, i'm not going to name names. Um i'm not going to, but some of you guys are gon na be able to figure it out.

Okay, i wan na talk about this new thing. It's not new, but it's becoming more and more popular of these. These people that are going around consulting and there's nothing wrong with consulting okay, but these people that are going around and training, especially on the residential side, how to be a salesman, how to be a sales tech and all this different stuff understand something. Sales is a part of our industry.

Okay, sales is a needed thing, but if you have to deceive, if you have to lie to get a sale, there's something wrong with you: okay, um. It's plain and simple right and i'm going to get up on my soapbox here and i'm going to talk about this for a minute because, again not going to throw out names. But i was privy to someone's new content that they just released. And i got to see someone's sales training practices, okay and it was disgusting.

It was absolutely disgusting to see how this person goes around teaching people how to be better salesmen. Everything about it, screams used car salesmen, it is manipulative, it is horrible and it is disgusting. Okay, um watching this person explain their sales process and how they try to trick the homeowner. They literally go into the home and say you know what i'm not a salesman, i'm just a maintenance, tech and uh.

You know, but i'll get my boss on the phone and then he pretends to make a phone call to his boss, saying that he's not a salesman and trying to convince his boss that you know i know your busy boss. But if you could just give me a quote and basically trying to corner and pressure people into sales, that is wrong plain and simple. There is plenty of money to be made in this industry, and i understand that sales are a big part of it. Okay, sales have to happen, but manipulating people deceiving people that is just wrong.

Okay, it's just absolutely disgusting and i'm so sick of seeing all these people popping up on social media feeds talking about how they're gon na go around and train you to be the best company they're, going to improve your profits and all this stuff. If that training doesn't include some kind of technical skills like literally how to actually do something, then what are they truly teaching you other than to be a manipulative salesperson? I mean it just dumbfounds me the way that this is becoming acceptable and it's sickening too to think that the manufacturers of this residential equipment are behind this stuff because they're not pushing it away. They're, just letting this stuff happen, and it's just crazy and again i understand that sales are a part of our industry. I understand sales have to happen and i see the need for salesmen.

I get it, but manipulating people and lying to people. It's just it's disgusting and it's sickening and - and it's really sad - that our industry right now has a lot of young people that look up to these influencers right. These people that are on social media just going out there saying how their business is, making millions and they're they've got fancy cars and they're flying on jets and they're doing all this stuff, and that is not what this trade is about. This trade is about hard work, honest work, making really good money right, but in the honest way and we're just setting ourselves up for a really bad outcome.

Here i mean if, if we're, if, when i go to buy a car, i'm disgusted i'm already in a bad mood that i have to go, buy a car because i know what's going to happen. I know the sales practices that are going to happen and you go in on the defensive. Okay, these these sales companies. They talk that they want to become a partner with the homeowner that they want to.

They want to um. You know, educate the homeowner and become a relation or have a relationship with them, there's nothing about what they do with these homeowners, that is is is fair, honest or right, okay, and i'm just talking about the manipulative companies again, i understand that. There's a need for sales, and i know that there's good companies out there that do good, honest work. Okay, unfortunately, the bad companies are giving us a black eye and guess what here's the the sad thing people are going to get so fed up you.

You realize that, right now, with all the issues that we're having with with buying a new car with buying a used car right now, the dealerships are marketed up crazy because they have to make a profit because they're hurting all this crazy stuff right. The end game to that is that the dealerships are going away, the car dealerships in the future mark my words will be gone and there will be internet sales, so we're gon na put someone out of business and maybe maybe i'm wrong, but maybe if the car Buying process was a little bit easier and a little bit nicer. Maybe we would want to go in to a car dealership and not feel disgusted. I enjoy going to buy a new tv.

I enjoy going to buy a new computer. It's a pleasant process. I know what i'm in, for i don't enjoy, buying a car and with these sales companies that are selling residential equipment and they're they're selling, snake oils and lying and all this different stuff they're, giving us a black eye and they're setting themselves up to be replaced. Because when consumers get sick of us service technicians trying to sell them every single thing that they don't need, they're gon na replace us and they're gon na go to the online retail, and that is already happening.

The online sales stuff is happening right um. All these different companies, you see little blurps about amazon's, doing this or home depot's doing this or whatever they're all trying to go direct to consumer and they're, cutting the middleman out and then they're paying us pennies to install the equipment. Okay, we're doing that to ourselves with our horrible, manipulative sales tactics that we use or that some of us use, but unfortunately, when i say we as an hvacr service technician, that's what we're all portrayed as the same person. So if enough of us do the industry dirty, then everybody's going to look at all of us the same way, so this is horrible, and these these sales practices are just ridiculous.

You know what these companies are training on right, um. Let me see what i got. I'm sure that there's a lot of people in the chat talking about anything but um see what i got. Uh yeah carvana, all those different ones so guys.

But i i just i don't know how to solve these problems, but i'm watching a few different people on social media, talk about how they're training technicians and how they're doing all this stuff, they're, not training and by the way, there's a new content thing right. Where there's all these new things that we can learn from, i'm not going to name, because you know some of you may know who i'm talking about or what i'm talking about. But i don't want to give them any more attention than they actually deserve. But i watched some of this new content and it's disgusting, it's disgusting and there's no technical training whatsoever in there and, in fact, uh at the time of me watching this content.

There was a technical video and that technical, video, myself and my friends just watched it in private and we ripped it apart, because it was all incorrect what they were teaching. They they're not service technicians, honestly and some of these companies that are literally just sales companies that do manipulative sales practices and stuff. To be honest with you, i could only imagine what their warranty callback rates are and different things like that, it's probably through the roof. I mean it's just disgusting, so i don't know how to solve this problem.

I'm just sickened by it. I'm sickened by my social media, feed being blown up. I've blocked a lot of these people because i don't even want to see their content anymore, but it's sad because i know that they're preying on every new business owner out there pay this person 10, 000 and they'll come train you to be this amazing service tech, They're not training you to be a service tech, they're training you to be a salesman that pushes manipulation right again, there's nothing wrong with the salesman and there's nothing wrong with consultants. Even i've thought about doing consulting before but honest stuff right, because you guys see what i do in my videos.

I'm not a i'm not here trying to sell snake oils and crap like that. I'm just just out there opening my eyes and saying this is what's wrong and that's the crazy thing i mean. I realize that there's a lot of profits and installs and things like that, but there's a lot of money to be made with existing equipment too. All you got to do is open your eyes and know how to look at it.

I can pretty much guarantee you that almost every contactor electrical contactor in every piece of residential equipment out there that's older than five years, probably needs to be replaced um. You know i mean, and all we got to do is measure. Do some measurements do a visual inspection. We can be honest about it and we can.

We can drive sales again. Sales are not wrong right, that's what we do. We sell our technical skills and our knowledge, so you know i don't know how to solve this problem, i'm just disgusted by it, and you know it's just one of those things. It is what it is but um.

Let me see what we got going on in here. What safety glasses do i have and or recommend tyler m is asking so um. I wear bomber safety, glasses, uh bomber is an eyeglass maker. They make floating sunglasses they're a southern california company.

If you just google bomber b-o-m-b-e-r and they make ansi approved, i don't know whatever safety glasses too, and i really dig them because they're super wide they're clear and in fact my sunglasses that i wear every day are approved safety glasses too. That's why i wear those bomber sunglasses, so um there's a there's, a link. I think, in the show notes of this video, an amazon affiliate link for the safety glasses that i use so take a look at that. Let's see what else we got on there, what else? What else um yeah exactly uh? Have i ever autopsied a failed ecm.

Motor ecm motors are pretty much useless to autopsy, because uh the electrical components are typically encapsulated in a rubber insulating material. So there's really not much to autopsy, i mean you can pull the motor apart and see the bearings and the stator and the shaft pretty much but uh the electrical module and everything like that they're pretty much, not really anything special to see because they're just encapsulated In rubber i have cut them apart as best as possible, but i haven't really learned too much about it. So um, let me see what else we got going on in the chat. How do i feel about pinch off tool for fan, cycling, switches on ice machines, j, gonzo, um? The only time i use a pinch off tool, i don't like pinch-off tools, i do use them.

Okay and i do a lot of ice machine work and manufacturers actually want you to use a pinch off tool when you're replacing encapsulated pressure, controls and encapsulated fan cycle controls. I personally don't like them, because a pinch point is a leak point. In my experience. Oftentimes, you have to pinch it off and then what you can do.

This is kind of sketchy, but what you can do is when you're all done and you open up the pinch point. You can very carefully lay a brace joint on there, but here's the problem when you try to lay a braze joint on there, there's gas on the other side of that system. So if you don't know what you're doing and you overheat the copper, you can have a catastrophic rupture right and there could be an issue. You could scare the crap out of you could hurt you, but a pinch point.

Even if you round it out is a weak point in the system, and i don't like doing them - i have done them in the past, but if i can, i get away from using pinch off tools, but i have to regularly use pinch off tools on r290 Systems when i'm working on them, so it is what it is um all right. Let's go cross that one off my list now that i went off on my rant, i do have to address the fact that my youtube comments have finally gotten out of control, and what i mean by that is, i can't keep up with them. There's so many comments, i used to try to acknowledge every single comment and and leave some sort of a response for every single comment, but i just can't get to them anymore. I have a hard enough time just reading every comment, so i try guys, but it's actually getting to the point now where it's just getting out of hand, and i can't get my eyes on every single comment.

I do try my best to get in there and read and acknowledge as many as possible, and i appreciate all the support, but i just can't get to them all. So just keep that in mind. If, if there's something that you're trying to ask me in the comments, keep commenting it and or send me an email, hvacr videos, gmail.com and i'll try to get to it there too, okay, um, let's see what else we got going on in here. Let me mark that one off, let me get to the stream uh.

How do i keep track of my refrigerant usage for my technicians, the same thing about it is uh. To be honest and frank, i don't track my refrigerant at all. Okay, i put a lot of trust into my technicians, i'm a small company right now. I only have myself and another technician that is actually handling refrigerant um.

I have two other guys, but they typically don't handle refrigerant back when i did have five or six techs out in you know in trucks and everything uh we just kind of worked off the honor system, which is kind of sketchy, but you know if i can't Trust, my technicians, it's not worth it to me, i'm not in the business to grow and scale and all this crap to make my business huge. I just want to focus on providing really good quality service and i find and again maybe it's my business practices. The bigger i get the harder it is to make my company work the way that i want it to work, the smaller i am the easier it is to make sure that things are going the correct way. So i purposely kind of keep things small, although right now i'm a little too small.

So i definitely do want to hire a couple more techs, but i don't think i ever want to grow it bigger than five techs again, because it just gets out of hand for me alaska. Thank you so very much um for the use for the super chat. Velasquez says i'm becoming too famous. I can't keep up with you.

No, it's it's more or less that i'm trying to prioritize my time and spend more time with my family is really what it is, but all right, let's see what else we got going on in here, um, exactly i'm human. That is exactly it: okay, uh uh yeah, it might be. It is kind of crazy, sometimes so um pinch off tool equals vice grips. Cyborg sheep.

Well, there's a special pinch off tool. If what i use in my videos is not actually vice grips, they use, vice grip makes them, but it's not a typical vice grip tool. It's it's a set of pliers that has a rounded off in so when it pinches it doesn't make a crease it more or less pinches it softly if that makes sense, so it's rounded on each end of the the the mating surface of the tool, but it Looks just like a set of vice grip pliers? Yes, but it's not the same so um! If you have the money, is it worth getting the mr 45? And that is the field piece recovery machine? Absolutely if, if you're in the biz or looking for a new recovery machine - and i would strongly suggest the fieldpiece mr45 hands down - that is an amazing recovery machine um - i use it every single - i mean it's in it's in my van. I love it um.

I have not put them in all my employees vans simply because i haven't had to buy a recovery machine, but, as i phase out recovery machines, yes, i will be buying the field piece mr45 for all my vehicles um. I also love their vacuum pump. Now i go with the 10 cfm vacuum pump. That is way oversized for what we do, but there's times that i do use that.

So i prefer to have a bigger one and the cool thing about their 10 cfm vacuum pump. Is it's the lightest of their vacuum pumps, which is a trip? So it's really really cool. Let's get into here, i'm probably missing a lot of stuff where's the best place to find technician. Eli boy.

That is the golden question. It is so difficult to find technicians right now, honestly, it's it's just to the point that i'm just not even trying right i mean i have a platform here where i can say that i'm hiring or i'm not hiring and i'll get resumes, but it's really difficult To compete because you know: there's these companies out there that are just paying crazy sign-on bonuses, they're doing anything to keep the doors open to bring technicians in right. Now we are struggling honestly, i would say: train from the ground up would be your best bet. I know that's difficult: i'm currently training an apprentice, it's a lot of work and a lot of commitment on both our parts right, because i'm spending a lot of time not really making very much money if any at all.

While he's getting trained - and you know i got to do my best to keep him with me um, so it's just one of those things. You know it's a struggle, but my choice is to train from the ground up unless that one unicorn tech comes across my doorstep right now, i'm training from the ground up and i'll probably hire another apprentice. When i get this one trained and work my way up there and build my workforce and then i just got to do a good job of keeping them with me, which i've failed in the past with other technicians, so um, let me see going through the chats. Have i serviced a walk-in that had more than one condensing unit for one box uh? No, i can't say i have um laska's saying he uses the brown colored circular pinch off tool.

I don't know if i know which one that is laska you may want to send me an email. I'm sure you got it. You know my email um all right, so there we go going through the chat right now, seeing what i'm missing. If i miss you guys stuff make sure you repost it again: okay, um there we go see, i'm not i'm not gon na stop doing videos roger of course.

Thank you very much. That was a very nice comment. Man hey! You know the whole point of these videos. I i still get comments from people that are bitter, that i make youtube videos that are bitter that you know um.

I share the knowledge that i have right and i only have a little bit of knowledge and i will never claim to have it all. I'm always learning i make mistakes. Just like all of you guys. We all make mistakes, it's how we learn from them.

That's the that's what i see in a technician, it's how you learn from your mistakes and grow from them. Okay, it's inevitable that we're gon na make mistakes. You wan na hope that those aren't crazy mistakes, but it's inevitable right. So, in my opinion, it's how we grow from those mistakes and how we learn from them.

I've certainly made a lot of mistakes and i've certainly learned a lot from those mistakes and that's why i make these videos. I remember i started making these videos for my own service technicians. I was sharing the little bit of knowledge that i had with them and then it became a thing and it it grew legs. And here we are, you know, three years later, whatever it is.

I started this channel in november of 2017 and it's just exploded to epic proportions that i never wanted it to be this big and while i'm thankful for it, it's definitely a beast to control um. But i'm just here to just share right. I just you know, and the cool thing is, is now that i've gotten kind of you know whatever you want to call it. I've gotten to a place that now manufacturers and other educators and stuff reach out to me and we can collaborate and we can share knowledge that way.

I'm about to do a video with my buddy trevor matthews, where we're gon na. I posted a thing on the internet on social media, about a compressor diagnosis and i i'm i'm literally going to someone that was the the one of the main guys in at emerson in canada for copeland compressors, and i'm going to have one-on-one conversation with him and Have him explain things so that way we can put it on the internet, i'm sure he's going to put it on his platform, i'm going to put it on mine and we're going to share the knowledge right understand. Something, though - and i don't really talk about this - okay um - i'm fine - i really am - and i'm not e-bagging or anything like that, but understand something all the different content creators out there right any support. You can give those content.

Creators helps them. Okay, um! That's why we make merchandise and different things like that. I don't want to just ask you guys for money. That's just not my style.

Okay, so i make a hat. I make a shirt. I make a couple bucks. I don't even make that much each one of my items, i price it at like a five dollar profit on each item after all expenses and costs.

Okay, so i'm not trying to rob you guys on it, but every little bit helps right, but any content creator. You guys watch when and if you get an opportunity to support them in any which way that you can okay, whether again, if you're watching someone's youtube videos just watch the videos right watch them all the way through without skipping through anything. That's the easiest way to support these guys interact with them, send them emails, interact with the live streams and different things. Every little bit helps because myself and all these other guys are putting a lot of time into this stuff and girls.

You know trying to share that knowledge. Okay, i'm a firm believer in sharing information and those people that reach out to me and say they're mad at me, because i'm sharing that knowledge. I just think it's silly, because i'm not afraid of myself losing my job, i'm not afraid of getting replaced, because i know that the skills that i have are going to transfer i'm going to be able to go work for someone i'm going to be in demand For the rest of my life, and so are you if you're a good service technician so jump up on that soapbox and share every little bit of knowledge that you have trying to grow the trade and make it a better trade, because we need that help. You know you have these amazing people much better than myself brian orr trevor matthews.

You have uh um ty branaman. You know amazing, educators, sharing their knowledge on youtube right, um. Those people see i just make entertaining videos that shows me working on things. You can actually watch one of their videos and you can truly learn some crazy technical skills, so i suggest go looking at all of their channels right.

It definitely helps it out. Laska. Thank you so very much and eli again. That's not why i said that stuff, but thank you guys so very much for those super chats and that support.

It is amazing. Okay, um there you go laska, i get it now. No, i don't need a visual anymore. Please don't send me that email laska, i don't need to see it.

Okay, that's funny! That's too funny! Oh man, um! Let me see you guys are cracking me up in the chat right now. If you guys are watching this and you on a tv or something you don't know, you're missing out on the live chat um. So if you watch this on a tv, you can try to pull up the live, chat, um or you can uh. You can um pull it up on your phone or something like that, but the chat's hilarious, because people are in there.

I thank you so much for being a channel supporter for 17 months. Now. That's amazing ike, that's awesome, but thank you so much so ike actually runs a discord. Server dedicated to this channel um discord is basically like a giant organized chat, room kind of like facebook, with individual rooms um and a little bit less drama than facebook.

At least ike does a really good job of keeping the drama out of the discord server now to be completely fair, i'm not in the discord server very often because it's hard enough for me to keep and stay on top of my normal social media. But i do go in there. Occasionally, i'm going to post a link to the discord server right now in the in the live chat feel free to go. Join it it's just a cool place to hang out, there's no money involved or anything like that.

It's just a place to hang out and talk so um. Let me see uh the thing about it is, he says, he's been doing residential service for 11 years and started watching the videos from the beginning. I did oh. Thank you very much man.

I really appreciate it, but that was really nice comment from you. Okay, um, that's funny! Uh! You guys are great with these comments. This is hilarious. Oh man, you guys are killing me in the chat uh.

Can i look at my email for go over in the chat daily, hvacr sure i'll, pull up my email and see what we got going on in here? Let me read this: i'm reading your email right now, uh, okay, so he's talking about in the email, i'm paraphrasing his email. He says he works on a lot of dell field units and he starts to notice um, a white and a green, corrosive material on the copper again, i quickly blazed through your email there reading it so he's starting to notice like a white and a greenish color On the copper first off the white color, in my opinion, that you're seeing on the copper is typically a flux: okay, some sort of a fluxing material that wasn't wiped off from the factory if you're, seeing like a white color. If you start to see greens and different uh flora, like greens and purples, and different things like that, that is typically corrosion happening from chemicals that are attacking the copper. Typically.

The particular customer that you mentioned has a lot of uncovered food in their their their boxes and different things like that and again i didn't spend a lot of time on your email. So if i didn't quite answer, your question correctly feel free to respond to that email after the live stream, but typically um. It's it's corrosive materials that are attacking it and that particular manufacturer del field. We have just like any manufacturer out there, we've seen a lot of quality control issues, because when they came back and are trying to re-hire their workforce, in my opinion, they're having a hard time, hiring their workforce and they're pushing stuff out without quality control, truly going Through the equipment, i've had a lot of equipment from all manufacturers delivered to the customer completely flat on refrigerant, with a braze joint, completely missed, not even like missed a spot on the brace joint.

Just straight up missed a coupling like didn't braise it up like. So how would they ever charge it and when they did charge it? How did they not see gas leaking out it just dumbfounds me um. So it's a lot of quality control issues with the manufacturers. Now keep keep something in mind, though.

I've talked about this. I've talked about the amazon effect and different things like that. These quality issues right these, these low-cost boxes, not so much the quality issues in the last two years, but the low-cost equipment, the cheap equipment that all manufacturers are making we're. The reason why they're making that equipment, because we as consumers, demand cheaper, cheaper, cheaper right.

We because we don't want to pay nine dollars for a burger. We want a five dollar burger and all this different stuff, so we're demanding cheaper, cheaper, cheaper. So therefore, manufacturers are making cheaper, cheaper, cheaper, okay notice that in the 80s you could get a refrigeration unit that would last for 25-30 years a reaching cooler. Nowadays, you can buy a brand new reach and cooler and spend all the money in the world you want.

On it - and it will not last more than five to six years because they just rot out around themselves because we constantly drive the quality down. So again, if i didn't answer your question accordingly feel free to respond to that email. Okay, um so jonathan had asked me a question and i'm paraphrasing, but he has a receiver that has a receiver pump down capacity of 28 pounds. This is a freezer unit, okay, so the receiver capacity is 28 pounds, but he added 33 pounds and wants to know if it will be okay.

So jonathan couple things, i want to ask you: okay, number one. When you say receiver capacity, is that system pump down capacity, or is that the 80 capacity of the receiver? If the information that you got that said receiver capacity of 28, pounds is on the receiver's information or on the the receiver's gnome likature, then more than likely. That just applies to the receiver and then, when you add a condenser and the liquid drain coming out of the condenser going into the receiver, you're, probably going to have a little bit more storage capacity. So to answer your question: if you put 33 pounds in a system that had a 28 pound receiver capacity, there's always the potential that that is still okay.

Now, if this condensing unit has a pump down capacity of 28 pounds and you added 33 pounds more than likely, you are going to have issues and more than likely, you potentially overfilled the system with too much refrigerant. Now, judging by your numbers, i'm going to guess that you're working on a heat craft, condensing unit - you may have said that in the email, but i don't have that on my notes. Right now, because 28 pounds capacity with 33 pounds of refrigerant. I swear that i just did a heat craft three horsepower that had a 28 pound pump down capacity, but all together it took 33 pounds of gas for me to charge the system properly.

So i had to verify by pumping the system down and checking the liquid level in the receiver that it was not overfilled. So again, some of you guys may not understand that the little caveat i went off on there, but i just recently did a system and those numbers match up exactly to the system that i did so i'm kind of curious about that jonathan um feel free to Answer me a little bit more, but just remember i'm asking: is it receiver capacity or is it system pump down capacity? So let's talk about this right now, so we have a condensing unit that will have a system pump down capacity that tells you that pumped down this system, the entire condensing unit can hold this much refrigerant. So you t, you cannot put any more refrigerant than what the pump down capacity is. If you plan on pumping it down at the liquid line.

Receiver now there's some ways you can get around this, but if you're going to try to pump it down at the receiver, you need to make sure that is not overfilled and especially if it has a micro channel condenser. If it has a micro channel, condenser and you're trying to pump it down, you could have a catastrophic failure of the condenser and it can rupture and that could be a problem. So keep that in mind and be very, very cautious about that. But if there's there's ways you can get around it because sometimes some of these stock refrigeration units receivers are not big enough to properly hold enough refrigerant and what you can do is you can manipulate the system by moving the liquid line solenoid valve down to the Evaporator and only pumping it down at the liquid line solenoid valve during normal operation, and then, if you ever have to do service work, you're going to have to recover the charge because you, you typically wouldn't be able to pump it down at the receiver.

Okay, so that that again i need a little bit more context there jonathan, but hopefully i kind of answered your question a little bit. Okay, but inevitably, though, you need to pump the system down check the liquid level uh, you can use a thermal imaging camera. You can use a heat producing device heat up. The receiver feel the liquid level just run your fingers down at the moment or up it and the spot where it gets red hot on the receiver and then right below that a half inch below it is cold.

That's your liquid level, so that's the level with the the refrigerant is staying a liquid and then it's turning to a vapor uh. The reason why we have a maximum eighty percent fill on a liquid line. Receiver is because there's always going to be vapor and liquid. In there - and you want to make sure that you have room for expansion as that gas heats up, it may condense or it may vaporize a little bit more and you want to make sure that you have that room for expansion.

So that way, you don't have a catastrophic explosion of that storage vessel. Hopefully that makes sense for you bud. Let's see serious question, though: how? How do i feel about pumping down with scrolls pumping down with scrolls can be tricky uh. You have to make sure that you're not pumping down too low copeland scroll compressors have floating seals in them.

This is the head of a copeland scroll right here: here's the floating seal and this will move and they have safeties built in because you don't want to run a scroll compressor in a vacuum. So if a scroll compressor runs down into a negative pressure, if it's a newer copeland scroll when you turn it off you're, going to hear a pressure, relief go almost like a blow-off valve right and it's going to relieve the pressure from the high side into the Low side and then you'll start to see short cycling and different things like that. So typically you don't want to set your pressure. Controls too low always follow what the manufacturer recommends for pressure control settings and again, if you want to know what that sounds like it goes just like that.

Okay, because i'm sure someone's going to ask me all right dino, he said sorry for being late. Did we miss a video on sunday had withdrawals yeah? No, i just didn't have the mental capacity to do a video on sunday so had a lot of stuff going on, wasn't feeling too good had some family stuff going on and just needed a day to just chill, i'm still kind of dealing with some of it, Because we had a death in the family but um, i'm good i'll, all as well, but but yeah. Just kind of you know dealing with the morning and stuff so um have i serviced to reach in with a flawed design. I'm sure i have bud, but i can't think of one right now: uh, let's see okay, i'm gon na go and get to my list.

So mike i'm paraphrasing mike's question: okay uh he had a walk-in freezer. It's a heat craft, qrc evaporator units. He said a couple of days ago: he had an e6 code which is low superheat on the qrc. Qrc is the quick response: controller um, it's the predator! Well, it's a dumbed-down version of the beacon system, um and it's the uh.

It's been replaced by the intelligence system, now the whatever it's a whole bunch of different stuff, but the qrc. I have plenty of qrc controllers out there, so he had a low superheat code. He tried to call tech support on all the readings all of the sensors and thermistors jive with his probes and clamps. The super heat swings from five degrees as much as nine degrees and it's set for seven.

What are my thoughts he's asking me so mike the first thing, i'm going to say you said all the sensors and everything jive and they're all good, but i'm assuming that you checked proper calibration of the pressure transducer to make sure that the pressure transducer, if you Don't know what a pressure transducer is everybody, that's watching. It takes a mechanical or a mechanical pressure right and it converts it to a digital signal. Okay, so it's an analog digital converter, so it converts it to a digital signal. Then it sends it to the board and tells the board that it's 55 psi or whatever so pressure transducers can fail.

They can cause low superheat issues, so double check that. Obviously you said you double check the sensors when you're working on the qrc sensors. It's almost one of those things. The failure rate is so high that if you have any questions personally, i would go ahead and change all the sensors there's only three or four in there they're not very much money just for peace of mind.

I personally would replace those i've seen sensor failures where it works fine and attempts fine, but it has moisture intrusion and different things like that, and it can cause issues. So i would start with that. The next thing, i'm going to say, is if you're working on a qrc system - and you got a low superheat code, you need to be 100 sure mike that there is not a time delay relay inside the condensing unit. Okay, the qrc system is a standalone evaporator that you can use with any condensing unit, but if you use a condensing unit that has a copeland scroll in it majority of the time it's going to come with a time delay relay in there.

That tries to prevent short cycling on the compressors. The qrc system ran into a bunch of problems using the time delay relay, and ironically, he craft the manufacturer of qrc ships, their condensing units that have scroll compressors with that exact time, delay relay. That is the problem. So if you have a time, delay relay in your condensing unit, heat craft will tell you take that time.

Delay relay out and adjust your pressure control accordingly make sure it's set properly. So that way, you're not getting short cycling. That time delay relay is in there. As a band-aid, because most of us don't know how to set pressure, controls properly and copeland, was sick and tired of having compressor, uh warranty jobs where there was nothing wrong with their compressor, except for it was short cycling right and it failed.

So they started instituting and telling everybody to put these time delay relays on there as a safety device. Okay, so keep that in mind mike and hopefully i answered your question for you feel free to send me another email. If i didn't answer it enough, okay, um yeah mike then get that time delay relay out of there. I didn't realize you were in the chat right now, so cool yeah get that time delay really out.

There set the pressure control accordingly, reach out to heat craft or check the installation manual. It'll tell you what to set the pressure control for for your ambient conditions and the refrigerant you're. Using that time. Delay relay typically, is your problem, so get it out of there and heat craft will tell you the exact same thing if they ever call you back after the six years of being on hold so um yeah, don't pressure those trash transducers, as i did in one Of my videos, the pressure transducer are pressure sensitive and i ruined one of them because i pressure tested it up to like 200 or 250 psi and right on the installation, instructions of the equipment it says, do not pressurize higher than 150 psi and i ruin the Pressure transducer so yes be very cautious about pressure testing the systems over the recommended rates of pressure test and if you are going to have to go over whatever the pressure transducer says, pull the transducer off for the pressure test.

Um. Let me see jcc3279 says how's. My crazy lab doing so, if you guys don't already know, i have a now four-month-old labrador retriever that i just got we're going through full puppy stages right now, every week is something different. This week he's like a child that is testing our limits.

All of a sudden this week he decided he wasn't going to listen to us anymore and it's funny, because my daughter came into my room today in my office just talking to me and she was telling me how disobedient he was how last week he was behaving This week he's doing the polar opposite he's like a teenager, he's just going through drama right now, and it's like i, i get frustrated too, because over the weekend i told my wife i was like i have to raise my voice to get him to acknowledge me. Like and i hate raising my voice, i don't like doing it, but i have to raise my voice and yell and that's the only thing that gets him to. Oh, okay, he's serious, you know so he's just testing us he's testing what he can get away from. Get away with - and it's just funny because he's just a dumb dog - and here we are - you know now, but he's a good dog and it's a lot of fun.

We're really looking forward to being able to take him out and doing things and stuff right now. He's still really young, and he only he just got his second round of shots. We have one more round to go before we can start socializing him and doing things and we're really looking forward to that, because we right now we're on like we're stuck in the house, and you know nobody can leave. You know like one of us always has to be home with them.

It's just like uh, it's annoying, so um replay all right. So, let's see what else we got in here, uh right on um. How do i feel about defrost time delay relays defrost time delay? I'm trying to think about a defrost time delay. Really i don't know about i, for some reason, am i drawing a brain fart right now, thomas? What is a def defrost time delay? Really i don't know what a defrost time delay relay.

Is i'm confused on that one but um i i just may be having a brain fart right now, um yeah, that's funny! Yes, i have to raise my voice. It's a bummer uh. What is the discord? Jordan, werner, i'm gon na post a link right now boom. There's the discord server right there, um all right, uh, so jared wait a minute! Wait a minute! Am i missing something here who asked me? I'm i'm i'm about to answer a question right now.

No, it's thomas okay, so jared had sent me an email asking me to discuss. Defrost termination fan delay, switches for walk-in freezers and let's talk about those because they're really very misunderstood. First and foremost, i'm gon na strongly suggest that all of you go get commercial refrigeration for air conditioning technicians by dick wars. Now this is the fourth edition.

This is the newest version. Um dick does a great job. I had the pleasure of meeting dick he's a really nice guy and he's an amazing educator and he's done such a great job with this book. Okay, but uh.

He does an amazing job. Explaining defrost termination fan delays, so we're going to go into here, page 20.. He he has pictures see for me. I need pictures because i'm a dumb, dumb, so um when i start reading, i get sleepy, but if i have pictures to look at i'm like hey that looks cool, so uh he's got a perfect example in here of electric defrost systems and defrost termination and fan Delays - okay, so i'd highly suggest you guys get this book.

You can also download a pdf version. Commercial refrigeration for air conditioning technicians, see he's breaking down the defrost termination fan delay right here, breaking down what's inside of it and what it does. In a nutshell, a defrost termination fan delay is a three wire combination. Defrost termination switch and fan delay switch okay.

So what it does is when an evaporator gets energized from the roof right, it says: hey refrigeration's turned on it controls the evaporator fan motors. It does not allow the evaporator fan motors to come on until the evaporator temperature gets below freezing. Typically, okay, once the evaporator temperature gets below freezing. It will then typically turn on the evaporative fan motors.

The logic behind this is you're: reducing the load on the system by bringing the evaporator temperature down because coming out of a defrost. If you have electric defrost or you're doing hot gas defrost that evaporator can be really really hot and if you turn it on you're. Going to blow steam out and that steam is instantly going to freeze and cause ice particles and different things in the system. Okay, but also you're reducing the load on the compressor by running the evaporator without fan motors temporarily for a short period of time until the evaporator gets down to a certain temperature.

Okay, so that's the fan, delay portion, then the defrost termination portion kind of does the opposite when it's in defrost it has a temperature sensor inside the evaporator, and if that temperature of that evaporator gets over a certain point like 55 degrees or something like that. Now, keep that in mind that 55 degrees is is even though that sounds high in a walk-in freezer. It's actually not okay, because that's temperature close to defrost heaters. That's not space temperature inside the box, but typically each manufacturer has a little bit of a different number, but typically about 55 degrees.

When that temperature switch sees 55 degrees, it terminates defrost and it sends a signal up to the defrost clock. It goes to the x terminal on the defrost clock. It typically has a timer release, solenoid on it, it energizes the solenoid. It pushes the defrost clock out of defrost, that's on an older paragon.

If you go to a new electromechanical clock, it doesn't have a solenoid. It's just a relay and it terminates the defrost, so your defrost can be time and or temperature terminated, so you're, not necessarily wasting energy. If the evaporator gets warm enough, it says: hey, i'm defrosted. I don't need to spend 20 more minutes, melting, it and running strip heaters, let's go ahead and turn these off and it goes back into the freeze mode.

So there's a little bit more into the defrost termination fan delay. But really it's not that big of a deal and the easiest way to understand them is actually separate them. Think about it. As a fan, delay switch and a defrost termination switch.

Now some evaporators actually have three limit switches. You have a heater safety, a defrost termination and a fan delay completely separate switches. Okay, you can consolidate two of those defrost termination and fan delay, because they're both wired very similarly right and uh. The way that they're they're wired in you can run them both off of the same circuit, basically, okay, so um.

Hopefully that makes sense for you. If i didn't answer it enough feel free to send me another email and we can talk about it - a little bit more jared. Okay, let's go to the chat and see what we got going on in here. Um see what i'm missing, um, i'm not seeing anything.

I don't have a link to the book, so sorry um, i'm not going to go there and answer that question. If you guys haven't already uh, there's there's some cool ways to support the stream. My moderator bot - i noticed right now, posted in there that if you guys are interested in purchasing any tools and you like true tech tools, pricing, i have an offer code, big picture. One word um, you can use that you get an eight percent discount.

As of today - and it is november 8th of 21 right now - and if you know what you're going to get you can shoot me an email i'll get you an affiliate link, i can get a little bit more of a commission that way you still get to Use the discount code: okay, so that's a cool way to support the channel. If you're going to buy some tools, you might as well buy them from there if they have the right price right. All right, i'm going to go to another question here. I get this question all the time and i pretty much have to address it almost every live stream.

Why am i fixing this region? Why did i fix that ac? It should have been replaced. I did the customer a disservice because i didn't tell them they had to replace the equipment. Why did i use r22? That's a waste of money. Why didn't i use insert flavor of refrigerant? Why did i put this in? Why didn't i do that? It all comes down to the customer.

Okay, i give the customer the options and they choose what they want. I am here to give the customer a big picture. Diagnosis, that's what i do. Okay, what they do with that big picture diagnosis.

I i really don't have much control over as long as they're paying me i'm doing the work okay. So if i give the customer the options and say hey, i strongly suggest that you replace this package unit, that's r22 on the roof and they say now. We want you to go ahead and fix it, and i give them a quote and it's really expensive and they still choose to approve it. My hands are tied, i'm doing what they want to give some context number one with reaching coolers right now you can't it's really hard to even get reaching coolers the build time on them is ridiculously long, so customers are fixing things that normally they wouldn't fix, and They would normally replace when it comes to air conditioning equipment.

Number one. You have it's hard to find package units number two. I live in southern california.