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Ah, it's time to chill out and get ready for a mediocre. Qa live stream if you're old enough grab yourself your favorite adult beverage and if you're not stick with apple juice, put your feet up and relax. If you have any questions, feel free to ask them in the chat and now, let's queue up the intro music hello, how you guys doing this evening - and hopefully you guys, are doing well, I'm just about the same as usual. Nothing too crazy, hopefully uh.

All this streaming stuff is gon na work. I'm still struggling with all this live streaming stuff, but it seems to be working so we'll see how this goes. I just want to say thank you very much to all the people that watch my videos. You guys are awesome and really do appreciate it.

I try to share the little bit of knowledge that I have okay for the new guys that are coming into the stream. My name is uh yeah, exactly untamed Kangol a can of apple juice. That's right! So my name is Chris. I'm an HVAC are service technician here in Southern California.

I started making these videos from my own technicians and then it just kind of evolved from there turned into something that I got even bigger than I ever imagined it. So the point that I couldn't answer questions any more through emails and text messages and Facebook. It was just too much okay. So that's why I do these live streams.

I like to just kind of compile the questions that I get and then try to answer them all live and then also answer questions from the chat. There's a if you guys don't already know if people are watching this and they don't know if you're watching it on YouTube. There's a live chat feature, so you got to click. The live, chat and you'll see there's a whole conversation going on okay.

So I encourage you to be involved in the live chat. It's usually a pretty chill environment. Nothing too crazy! So really appreciate it. Now.

I have a question here, hello to everybody. That's coming in here, you guys are awesome and let me see what are the rules tonight? There's not really any any rules to my stream Steve, nothing too crazy. Okay, really appreciate hey Jeff! I saw that you became a member of my channel. Thank you very much.

Jeff, that's awesome, guys Jeff the maintenance man. He has a YouTube channel to put some videos on there, so you can click on a username and it'll show his channel title. If my new cloud moderator thing will work, then I am going to play a little game and I'm trying to make sure that this thing's gon na work. So let me let me put this in right now.

I want to make sure that I'm gon na change something over and I'm going to change this interval to one minute line. Let me change this to one just to make sure that this pops up in the chat and if it does, then I have something to do so. Let's hold on just one second see if this pops up here, I'm using stream Labs. So, let's see if it works right, it's supposed to do a timer and pop something up here in just a minute and let's see if it does or not, okay um.
So I want to start off as usual, talk about a couple videos that I had. I'm just waiting to see if this stream lab thing pops up. I don't know if it's going to or not. I know the chats got kind of a lag.

So forgive me guys, I'm just waiting to see if this thing will actually work or if it's becoming a problem anyways. I want to cover my two videos. I want to talk about those that I released this last week. Okay, the first one was on a set of cooks, drawers that weren't working properly, and I definitely want to cover that because I got a lot of questions about the yeah see it's still not coming up.

Yeah, that's interesting: okay, I'll figure out another way I'll make the nightbot do it or something like that for some reason, yeah, this isn't popping out. I have a better way of doing this here. Here's what we're gon na do so. This is what I'm gon na.

Do well I'll do it here in just a minute, so the first one was on a set of cooks, drawers and the unit was low on charge and had multiple refrigerant leaks. Okay, so I want to cover this whole way that I checked the refrigerant level in the system - okay, very important, so I use the pump down method where I pump down the liquid line receiver and check the liquid level in the receiver. Now, first and foremost, I highly suggest that if you guys are gon na be working on systems that had had pressure control valves which mine did okay, you whenever possible, you want to follow the spoil in 90-30, one method: okay, it's very important. The 90-30 one method is gon na help you to figure out the correct amount of refrigerant for the system: okay, but there's times when that method doesn't really work.

Okay, and what I I have a shortcut, my shortcut is simply to put the maximum amount of refrigerant. In the system, that's safe, okay! Now that doesn't necessarily mean that's gon na be enough. The system has to be designed properly. Okay, there's certain situations that you walk up on to a system, that's low on charge and it's gon na be hard to figure out exactly how much charge is gon na need to make it work correctly.

Okay, so what I do is I pump down the receiver and then once it's pumped down and it satisfies on low pressure, then what I'm gon na do is I'm gon na take a heat producing device and I'm gon na find the liquid level in the system. Okay, so if you take a heat producing device there we go so stream. Labs is working, okay, all right! So guys you see that in the chat right now, I'm gon na turn I'm gon na change this. I just wanted to make sure that this thing was gon na work, so cool this works right now.

Let me change this up to. Let me just delete that one I'll just turn that one off okay, perfect. Okay, so you guys see I'm gon na I'm gon na go back to my thing: real, quick, I'm gon na cover this up. Okay, so you see the stream Labs comet right now: okay, the first and I'll cover it to the first email that I get with the correct name of the movie and the quotes will be popping up here, as the stream goes on the first email that I Get I will ship you something.
Okay, I have a couple different items. I will ship anywhere in the United States and possibly into Canada, we'll just discuss the shipping costs. Okay, it's really not uh. I have a couple different options, and so we can talk about it, but the first person and basically you've got to send me an email, okay and I'm sorry.

I stopped talking about the whole headmaster thing I'll go back to that. Okay, but so the first person that sends me an email with the correct movie name: okay, so there's gon na be four quotes that pop inside there five quotes. Okay, the fifth is like the easiest ones, so they should pop. In order and like I said the first person to send me an email, okay now I know that multiple people are gon na.

Send me an email, that's fine! I'm just gon na respond to the one that is first okay. So if you don't see a response from me, that means you didn't win. Okay, so I'm not gon na promise that I'm gon na do this every single time. On these streams, I just have a couple things around my office that I can send out.

Okay, so as nightbot pops them in check it out, okay, all right anyway, sorry guys, you guys will have to guess for the people asking you'll see the chat. The quotes will pop up okay, so anyways back to the head pressure control valves, if at all possible, use the spoil in 90-30 one method. Okay, now here's the situation, though 90-30 one method will only work on a standard tube and fin condenser coil, okay. So that means copper, tube aluminum fin steel fin, whatever it is, but it has to be copper tube when you have Micro, Channel, okay micro Channel does not use the spoilin 90-30 one method.

Alright, the micro Channel is a little bit different and there is some calculations that you can do like if you're working on a heat craft condensing unit, they do have some calculations just understand something with a micro channel condenser often times the winter charge or the flooded Charge is like ounces or a pound, and an ounce I mean it's very minimal compared to what the flooded charge would be with a with standard tube and fin condenser sometimes can be six seven, eight, nine ten. You know it can be ridiculous amounts of refrigerant. Alright. So if you can't safely calculate the correct flooded charge, okay, what I will typically do is add the maximum amount of refrigerant to the system.

Now here's the difficult thing, though sometimes you can have a giant receiver on your system. If you have a giant receiver, alright - and it might be so big that it's gon na take tons and tons of extra refrigerant - that's unnecessary for the system, so you have to do your best to try to calculate the proper flooded charge. But again, if you can't what I typically do - and this is a way old-school method - is fill the system up with a maximum amount of refrigerant okay. So, in order to do that, what I'm gon na do is I'm going to pump the system down and I'm gon na find the liquid level in the receiver when it's pumped down okay.
So what I will do is take a heat producing device, not gon na. Tell you what to use, but here's the important thing, whatever heat producing device that you guys use, you have to make sure that it doesn't heat the system up past the critical point you can't heat up the soft plug a lot of times. The receivers have a soft plug that has a it's a basically a solder that has a really low melting point and it will basically melt at a certain temperature. Well, if you take that heat producing device - and you wave it across that soft plug, you can have a hard time.

So you need to be very, very careful, okay, and that's also why I won't tell you guys what kind of heat producing to buy someone to use it has to be a heat producing device that doesn't get any hotter than the maximum temperature of the receiver. You have to be very careful about that and what you'll know or what you'll find out is, is that where the liquid is in the receiver versus there's that there's a certain point where there's gon na be vapor and where there's gon na be liquid and you'll Feel a temperature difference, so all the sudden you'll be running your fingers or you can take a thermal camera. I actually used a thermal camera on mine too, but you can run your fingers from the bottom to the top and all the sudden it'll get hot boom. There's your liquid level! Okay, now again, I highly encourage you guys to use the proper spoilin 90-30 one method or lean on the manufacturer of whatever particular equipment you're working on okay, but if you can't figure that out all oftentimes do that? Okay, so that's my little trick just be careful, you guys make sure that nobody hurts themselves.

If you blow yourself up, don't blame me, because I told you not to do it that kind of stuff. Okay, all right, mmm, lead mining. I know i I've never heard that method before charged to 105 condensing temperature control valve and again, I'm not saying you're wrong. I've just never heard that method before so cover the condenser with cardboard charged to 105 condensing for 404.

No because if you cover the condenser with cardboard you're only going to charge to whatever temperature or condensing template in the system gets really cold and the condensing temperature ops, then you're gon na run out of liquid refrigerant and you're gon na have a problem. I I'm not calling you out, I'm just having a discussion. Okay, so feel free to send me an email to HVAC our videos at gmail.com, and we can talk about that a little bit more, but yeah. I've never heard that method before and I can't say that that method would work for me because yeah but anyways.
So alright, let's see what else oh yeah see the movie quotes already popping up. So this is shoot man, it's popping them up too quick. So again, the first person to send me an email with the the name of the movie that the movie quotes are should be pretty easy. So again I'll send you a prize for the first person.

So, let's see okay looks like people already sending him yep people already sending him so alright, I got plenty of people, so I'm gon na go ahead and turn off the movie quotes. Then, because that way, people don't keep seeing in there and let me turn those off, so I already got the answers to the movie in there so yep, so those are off right there cool, so the other stuff will still pop up. Let's see, do I prefer water, misting water, cooled condensers or normal condensers. Do they have aluminum coils inside condensers? I don't know about that one, but so I prefer just a standard air-cooled condenser I've worked on water-cooled before, but if it has water-cooled there's a lot of water treatment that needs to be done or your your condenser coil will get.

Fouled is what they call it. When they get dirty inside they get like mud and sediment, so I prefer just a air-cooled condenser and then but I'd rather not put a misting device on an air-cooled condenser. If I don't have to okay, it's probably not as efficient as possible, but I've put in swamp coolers blowing directly on a condenser before, if you have to like in a high temperature environment on the middle of the desert. I've done that before.

But I wouldn't recommend doing a water misting device, because that's just gon na lead to horrible, calcium issues and it's just gon na cause all kinds of problems so wouldn't suggest that one. Let's see, I already answered that one. Do I think trade school is necessary to become a service technician? Smith? 666? No! It is not necessary, but I highly suggest some sort of trade school. Okay.

First off I'm gon na get my trade school spiel. Okay, I don't suggest that you go and spend a crazy amount of money until you're, absolutely sure, okay, that you want to be involved in the HVAC trade. What I would highly suggest is maybe taking some night classes at your local community college. Alright, you can do those while you still have any kind of a job and just go to school at nighttime and then maybe apply with someone, and if that's something you want to do, then you can it.

You could further. You know go into your education, you can make the decision on whether or not you want to spend it on a private college. I just hate for people to spend thousands upon thousands of dollars upfront and then walk away with, not an amazing education. I'm not saying that there's all bad schools out there, but there is a lot of bad schools.

Make sure that you guys do your research when you go to a school. Don't just pick the first one that you find interview the school. Ask them. If you can shadow a couple classes go in there and watch how they teach watch the instructors look and see if those instructors seem passionate.
I definitely know of some private colleges or private trade schools that give an amazing education, but I also know of a lot of really bad trade schools. They give horrible education to all right. So you definitely need to do your research, but if you can find the right person to train under no, you don't need to go to trade. School it'd definitely be a benefit, though okay, I benefited from trade school.

I learned from my father. I grew up working in HVAC working for working in restaurants and all the same stuff. I do today. You know I learned his method and then my cousin worked for us too.

I learned my cousin's method and then I went to a local Community College, the school. I went to was mount sac Mount San Antonio Community College in Walnut California. I did night classes there for many years and all three of the education resources. I had my dad, my cousin and the community college.

They all helped to build the knowledge that I have so they all gave me different ways of doing things and then they all kind of tied in together and made sense. So any education is better than no education, but do you have to go to a trade school to become an HVAC technician, not necessarily now? I will also say that you need to be careful depending on what part of the industry are going into and/or what companies you want to work, for maybe they have a requirement? Okay, also, you know some states have licensing requirements and different things like that. So you got to kind of figure out what your state requires of you, but in general, no, you do not have to go to a trade school to be an HVAC technician, not in general. Okay.

I really appreciate that super chat Ike. Thank you very much. Man. Thank you all right again.

I see tons of comments in here. Thank you guys. All right, let's see if I can get to best chemical HVAC with Greg, is asking me the best chemical to clean, an evaporator coil. You've noticed ours is smelly and dusty, like lately, like it was rainy, okay, yeah, so that makes sense HVAC with Greg.

I highly suggest looking into refrigeration technology products. Okay, I have no affiliation with them. They are a local small business here in California, they're gaining some traction within the industry, they've been around for a very long time and they make amazing products and they're safe products. I guess should say environmentally friendly or whatever I don't know.

You know. Those are some relative terms, but they are safe products and they have lots of great metal, safe products, different things like that. Okay, so definitely look into refrigeration technologies. There viper brand of coil cleaners is awesome and i really appreciate their products.
They make so much stuff. So just google them or whatever and you'll, find all kinds of great him. You know products that they make. I don't think, there's anything that i don't like that they make.

I don't necessarily use everything they make, but i'd be willing to stand up and say they're, a very good company. So thank you very much for the super chat there joe. I really appreciate it. Man yeah i'd, really appreciate if anybody would hit the thumbs-up button.

If you haven't already, that really does help out the stream, so please do so. Alright, i'm going to get to some of my oh wow, that's funny stream labs tells when people super chatted. That's weird i'll have to turn that off. I don't know how to turn it off right now, but i guess you guys will just have to deal with the stream labs thing saying that right now, i'm gon na go ahead and go back to my stuff here right now.

I do want to point out that spore lynn right now has been releasing a lot of really cool videos on their YouTube channel. They have like a super market seminar series that they're going through, where they're going through a lot of super market components right now and it is on their YouTube. Channel spoilin also does live webinars where you know they'll have someone on there and then you could listen to it live, but then they upload it to their youtube channel after okay, so definitely go check, outs, Portland's, YouTube channel, guys, I'm always promoting their stuff. And yes, they are a sponsor of my channel, but I really do really do believe in what's Portland does Portland makes amazing products, and I I have always liked them.

That's why they work. That's why you noticed that I don't have a bunch of sponsors, because I'm very picky about the people that I want to work with. Okay, so check outs, Portland's, YouTube channel. If you haven't already please subscribe, I just put a link in the comments right now and definitely check it out.

Okay, I definitely want to cover the fact that I make mistakes. Okay, I have that on my list of things to talk about right now, I'm human, I'm not perfect. I definitely try to point that out on my videos. Okay, I'm probably my own worst critic.

I probably see more flaws than you guys ever see. You know and I'm pretty harsh I guess I should say on myself, because I want to make sure that you know what I do put on. Video is somewhat correct, but even still I'm not perfect. Okay, I make mistakes, but sometimes I learn from my mistakes, though.

Okay and that's what I believe helps me to become a better technician is the fact that I do learn from my mistakes. So you know things like when, in my video when I was talking about, I, the line set replacement, video, okay, one of the really important tips that just popped up in my head. When I was braising, a suction line was that I was wearing a headscarf okay. I wear a headscarf, sometimes when it's really sunny so that way the Sun doesn't hit the back of my neck.
So I'll just put it under my hat, you know, put the headscarf on and oftentimes the headscarf will fall down and as I'm braising, I noticed that, like it kind of comes down and gets close to the flame, not just a headscarf, but everything in general, when You guys are working doing things remember. I say this quite often, but you got to try to predict the worst-case scenario, all right so before I turn my torches on in my head. You know without even really thinking about it, I'm thinking about okay. What can go wrong here? Okay, I could start a fire.

I could burn my hand, you know what things like that and you have to learn how not to react alright and what I mean by that is, let's say, for instance, something catches on fire. Okay, let's say, for instance, the roof, tar catches on fire and you freaked out, and you drop your torch and run away to go, grab a hose and when you drop your torch, it blows across your hand and burned your hand. Okay, things like that. You got to try to remember how to not react alright.

If and I've used this example before too, if you're working on a carrier package unit all right, just a carrier weather maker package unit, you guys probably worked on those before, and you know that when you take the compressor panel off to look at the electrical, you Know the the compressors are open right. You have to kind of put the panel up there, so you can check the electrical stuff out. But what happens if you're trying to put your service gauges on the system - and you don't want to shut it off? That's a common thing: well carrier condenser fan motors are really close to the compressors depending on the model and what happens if, when you're doing something, you know something scares you and you just flail your hands and you shoot it up into the condenser fan motor that Could end up bad, it's things like that or say, for instance, you're reaching across the compressor to get to the suction port, and you burn your arm and you spaz. You know you jerk your arm up or something like that.

It's things like that that you have to learn how not to react all right. I've got refrigeration burns up and down. My arm probably looks like track marks. Okay, I promise I'm not a crackhead or a heroin addict.

Okay, but you know you just have to learn how to chill all right, and you know stuffs gon na happen. If you burn your arm, you know you rub it against a discharge line instead of panicking and freaking out and start flowing your arms. Most of the time you've already moved, you know just move your arm out a little bit just kind of think about what you're doing and you stop burning yourself. Okay and you don't have to panic and you're, not gon na potentially cause other problems.
Hurt yourself. That kind of stuff, so you have to learn how not to react, how to expect the worst-case scenario or try to predict the worst-case scenario plan for that kind of stuff. So that way, if something does happen, you're kind of prepared, okay, so I'll try to get to the chat a little bit more. I've definitely got more things I want to cover, but we'll look at the chat and see what's going on, you have big Nate.

I do Big Nate, I that is funny how bill does have a rather large beard - and I wonder I've asked him before to like you ever worry about nothing getting stuck in an exhaust fan, but I don't know if bills in here I haven't seen him today, But you know I I imagine that when you have a beard like that, you probably just get used to it and you know you know things to watch for so just kind of expect the worst right all right. Let's see what I'm missing here. Okay, so Hamilton mechanical you're, saying in your area, they won't take any appliances at the dump or scrapyard unless they've been evacuated. I've had a fridge on my back porch for two years.

Whole reason: I got my 600 okay, that's funny. Yeah Hamilton. We have the same thing. I take refrigerators pretty much on a weekly basis.

We take them to the recycling yard and yeah. We have to recover the refrigerant out of them and then I think, there's even a they just require that we recover the refrigerant, but I think technically, you're supposed to take the compressors out too, because there's refrigerant contaminated oil and those compressors. So that's kind of a gray area, but yeah we definitely recover the charge and then go take them to the scrap yard. So what I ever be interested in working on the hot side in the restaurant industry, Lorenzo um, you know I'm sure it intrigues me.

You know doing the hot side work, but it's it's not something I'm gon na take on at my company, because it's hard enough training, technicians and keeping up with the demand on the refrigeration side. Basically I and again this goes to my like being a control freak. I don't want anything at my company that I can't handle and I am not qualified or trained to work on hot side equipment. I'm not saying that I couldn't figure it out, but if you guys can understand what I'm saying, if one of my guys can't handle one of the refrigeration calls, I can take care of it.

Okay, so I don't want to just take on a new aspect of our business and expect an employee that I hire to be the person that does that kind of stuff. I want to be able to tell fall back on myself to be able to fix it too, but it's hard enough to keep up with the HVAC and the refrigeration. I can't really add the hot side to it. I'd go crazy.

I've thought about it. I've thought about learning how to weld so that way, I can, you know, weld stainless steel and things like that, because that definitely would come in handy if I was to add anything else to my business, it might be like stainless steel welding. Maybe because that's the kind of stuff that I could sell and not have to like, I you know not have to put myself out there to be able to sell some stainless steel welding jobs. I work in restaurants, everyday and I refer them to other.
Well, there's all the time so, but I don't think I'd ever be picking up the hot side stuff. So all right see question above. Let me see what I'm missing. I don't know which question mr.

ice. I see lots of questions. Was it your question mr. ice or was it someone else's Ryan? I'm gon na go and answer your question most effective way to gain Trent chain: restaurants, okay, so chain restaurant work is, is its own beast and it can be a little bit difficult, sometimes to to get involved in chain restaurant work.

What I would highly suggest the easiest way. I guess that I could tell someone to get involved in chain. Restaurant work is give the refrigeration manufacturers a call and become authorized service companies for their warranty. Work warranty, work sucks.

They don't pay enough money. You can't survive on warranty work in the commercial side, but warranty work will get you in the doors of chain - restaurants, okay, but some chain. Restaurants, are so big that they require the manufacturers to pay their contractors to do the warranty work. So it's a little.

You know kind of a tricky area, but your best bet to get into chain restaurant work would be doing warranty, work for delfield, Kai rack, manats, wok hoshizaki. You know any major manufacturer of refrigerators, true manufacturing those different ones, they're, always looking for new warranty service companies. Some of them are a little bit more stingy than others. Some of them, you know, have kind of a tight little area and they don't let new contractors in, but that would probably your best bet other than that you know banging on doors giving business cards.

Unfortunately, though, when you're dealing with chain restaurants a lot of times, the managers on site really have no nothing to do with the service companies. This you know on chain restaurants, you're dealing with corporate offices and corporate managers that make the decisions to get a new service company or you know, try this service company. So I'm not super smart with the networking and stuff like that, but I do know that there's networking events and there's like restaurant trade shows you know where and again. I don't know the names of these, but I've seen them pop up on Facebook and different things.

Like that, where service companies will go to these trade shows where restaurants are exhibiting or looking at exhibits of new refrigerators and - and you know, they'll they'll hand out business cards at those trade shows because oftentimes they'll be facilities. Managers at the trade shows and bigwigs from the corporate office walking around the trade shows, so I would definitely look into that kind of stuff. Again, I really don't know the names of those I'm trying to think. I know there's a few of them, but they're basically, trade shows for restaurants.
I think it's like ref ma or something like that as one of but yeah that might be another way to. You can certainly send me an email, the HVAC, our videos, a gmail comm, and we can talk about it a little bit more. So, okay, mr. ice.

I see it right now. So your question: you have a 16,000 BTU evaporating a 10,000 BTU condenser at a hundred degree ambient you're having a hard time keeping superheat consistent depending on the ambient. You start getting severe flood back well, your evaporator is oversized. I'm not saying that it won't work, but you're gon na have a hard time with that.

You're gon na have a lot of dead space on your evaporator. That's a pretty technical question. Mr. ice I'd say probably send me an email to HVAC our videos at gmail.com, and maybe we can talk about it a little bit more because there's a lot more questions that I need to ask you to kind of get some more context on that one.

So definitely send me an email and we can talk a little bit more. Okay, let's see what else I really appreciate everybody that's become a member and hear you guys, hey. I will say this right now too. So, first off I've been trying to figure out a way to say thank you to the people that are patreon supporters and members of the channel.

Okay, and what I'm gon na do is I'm working on setting up a discord. Server discord is a little bit different again, I'm still new with it. Okay, but I'm gon na set up a discord server. The discord server is also gon na be open to the public.

It's just basically like a giant message board or chatroom okay, but it also has the ability to do some voice chatting video chatting different things like that, but I will definitely when I set up the discord. Server have a private section for just the channel members and patreon subscribers, but they'll also be a public section too, or I'll definitely pay attention to both, but we'll have some sort of some sort of exclusivity for the members, so that is coming soon guys bear with Me I'm trying I'm not super smart with this technology, but also in the research of the discord server. I actually stumbled across and I'll put a link in here right now for anybody that that is already involved in discord. I I stumbled across a they call.

Them servers called the HVAC talk and it's just a bunch of HVAC guys, I'm gon na post a link right now. If anybody is on discord, I this is an invite link for the HVAC talk. That is not my discord. Server, okay, mine is not public, yet I will make it known once I am ready, okay, but that link that I just posted is for a a cool little message: board discord, server.
Basically, okay and it's just got a bunch of guys in there that talk about work and help other technicians and homeowners, and I believe they actually have it open to homeowners. And you know restaurant owners and stuff like that on that discord server again just to make it clear. I have no affiliation with the discord server. Hvac talk, I just posted a link to it.

I just joined it recently and it's just a cool little place. So definitely hit that join Lincoln. If you guys are on discord and check it out, and I will make my discord server public soon. Okay, also, you guys see that I've been posting a link to it of the knight birth.

The stream labs moderators been posting, a link that I am starting a new YouTube channel. I've actually had it for a very long time. I just decided to start posting. I haven't put any videos on it.

Yet it's called HVAC are tools. I stream labs. Moderator thing is posting a link to it every once in a while. So appreciate you guys.

If you go over and subscribe to my new channel, i will start posting videos so on that channel some of the first videos and i'll do something on my this videos. Channel too, but on that channel, some of the first videos are going to be the the h of the pants. So i've been reviewing a bunch of different brands of work, pants. Okay, all cargo pants.

I've been trying them out for probably about a month and a half now multiple different pairs. I bought five or six different of the more popular pairs and wanted to try them out and see what I liked best and I did come to a conclusion on which ones I do like best. I'm gon na be making a video on that and I've been trying to research the best way to make a video where you're not just staring at my crotch, the entire time, so I'll have to figure that one out, but that's gon na, be an interesting one. Thermal imaging cameras, that's another one that I'm working on right now and actually using a bunch of different thermal imaging cameras.

I'm using the floor, one Pro, which is the little one that you plug into the bottom of your phone, I'm using the Fleur c3 and I'm using the seek shot pro all thermal cameras. They all are similar a little bit different in price between the three of them, but they're all have similar sensor stuff and everything so I'll be doing a video on that and then I'll definitely start posting more videos to that tools channel soon too. Okay. So again, there's nothing on that tools channel as of yet, but I will start posting soon.

So alright, let me see let let oh okay, just let us watch the videos a day early like everyone else, Chris. That is all you would have to do. Gotcha Nathan, Peterson I'll figure something out man yeah. I definitely want to make it figure it out.

I think I'd like to give you guys something a little bit better than just watching the videos. A day early, though I want to you, know, show my appreciation somehow so we'll figure this all out, if you guys have ideas on the ways that I can you know, reward the members and the patreon supporters send me an email, hvac ever use a gmail.com. Okay, I'm always looking for suggestions so alright, let's see I want to get back on topic. How do i balance helping the customer versus helping the company on a warranty called great question: storm storm huffman? That is an awesome question.
Alright, you had me muted for a couple minutes and KITT. No, I did not answer it. Yes, so I'm gon na get to a right now, storm, alright, so here's the deal and to give some context, I work for a lot of chain. Restaurants and some of them, I kind of mentioned - are so big that they go to the manufacturers of the refrigerators that they buy and they demand that I do their warranty work because they don't want the manufacturers authorized service agency in their restaurants.

They only want me, my company, and this isn't just me: they do it with other service companies too. Okay. So in that situation I am working for the customer. I am not working for the warranty company, but at the same time I will not lie.

I will not cheat and I will not steal to either party to benefit either party. Okay, I'm gon na, be completely honest. So I'm at a chain restaurant, I'm working on a refrigerator and I go up to it. It's not working it's under warranty.

I follow all the approved procedures, I call the manufacturer, I get an authorization number all this stuff and then I find out that the temperature controller has water damage because the customer was not, you know, cleaning their floors correctly and they shorted out the temperature controller. I am going to be completely honest with the manufacturer: okay, because here's the yes, I don't want to piss off my customer, but I'm not gon na eat the cost of that temperature controller all right. So what happens as as a contractor when I go to do the warranty work, I go ahead and do it i order the part I pay for it all upfront and then I submit a claim and I send the parts back to the manufacturer and then they Decide to void the warranty because it has water damage in it. Then I have to turn on and back bill.

My customer, for the part, it just seems like a lot of unnecessary work and it's wasted money for me, because we could be 90 days down the line 120 days down the line. And then I have to turn it in to my customer and then my customers start saying we'll wait a minute. We didn't do this, we didn't damage this and then it's just a he-said she-said and it turns into a giant email battle. The reason why I say that is because I've gone through it, I've done it okay, so I'm completely upfront with the manufacturer and I'm completely upfront with my customer.

When I walk up to the refrigerator, I know what to look for and if I see water damage before I even start disassembling things I go, get the customer a nice a look at what I'm seeing right now. I take pictures of it and I'm completely honest with both parties. Okay, that is my best advice for you. Yes, your customer wants you to look out for their best interests, but in the long run you don't want to screw yourself by pissing off the manufacturer.
All right, because what happens when that customer stops using you and another one of your customers, you know deals with that manufacturer again. You just don't want to piss off the manufacturer and you got to be honest and true to yourself, but that is a great question. Okay, so hopefully I answered that, and hopefully that was a good enough answer for you, so Brian Guzman have I thought about using the pro press fittings instead of brazing. That is a great question too.

So spoilin actually reached out to me today my contact and said hey that video I just posted where I changed the line set. That would have been the perfect scenario for that. There's there's oome lock tool and, yes, it would have been the perfect situation for the Zoom lock tool. I actually approached my customer because I knew that job was coming and, I said, hey.

I could use this new tool and my customer just basically said now. They'd rather me just braze it they're kind of old-school, okay, but I've considered using the the spoilin zoom lock tool and when the right time comes, I will definitely try it out now, definitely get it on video, okay. But yes, I have thought about it. I am old school and that I do you know, appreciate brazing things, but I also got to stay with the new technologies that are coming out and the spoil and zoom lock tool definitely is try and trued, and I mean it's, it's proven basically, you know.

So I will definitely be using it in the future. I just have to come up in the right scenario. So all right, let's see who's battling. Oh yeah, Michael BEM, ko saing, pro press yeah, I'm Pro press.

I realized you Pro presses for the plumbing side and then they also have mega press for gas lines. I'm definitely interested in all of them. So, let's see, let me see what I'm missing here. Is it always silver solder that I use RC 1207? So, yes, i, when i braised copper, I'm using 15 % sil foss, okay for copper to copper anytime, that I use dissimilar or I have dissimilar metals, I'm using 56 % silver solder.

I do not use any low temperature solder's like stay silver. Eight, not judging anybody that uses those, but I don't okay, so I'm either using 56 % silver solder or 15 % sil foss. That's it! Okay. I definitely want to cover something too, and I wish I woulda tagged the person that posted it.

Someone heads - I was you know, reading a conversation in my chat and I just want to clarify things right now. So when we're using silver solder, all right on dissimilar metals, steel, to copper, steel, to steel, brass, to copper, you need to use silver solder and you need to use a silver solder flux. Okay, sometimes they make rods that have the flux built in, but you have to use that flux. You need to use the correct flux to because if you use flux for like the cheap tin solder for plumbing pipes, it's not going to work right alright.
So it has to be like I, for instance, use like the stay Silve flux by Harris. That's usually what I use, I believe for when I'm doing silver solder work, but you do not need to use flux when you're doing 15 % SIL foss, because from my understanding, there's already phosphorus and the phosphorus acts as a fluxing agent is what I'm told and What I've read? Okay, so you don't need to use that, but your pipe and I don't care what people say you have to clean. Okay, the solder is not gon na clean your pipe for you. I understand some people say that they never clean, copper before they braze it and they use you know and they swear.

But now and you don't have to clean it, you do have to clean, copper. Okay, you take some sand cloth or some sandpaper you, you scrub that thing down. Okay, I usually clean six inches before six inches. After just in case, I run into a problem and it needs to be sanded up nice and clean.

You don't want to touch it with your fingers, because the oils from your fingers can make the the the braze joint basically bad okay. So you got to make sure that you clean everything up with sandpaper, then, if you're doing a silver bearing solder like the fifty six percent silver solder, you need to use the proper flux and yeah. So that's that's it on my rant on that one all right. Let's see what else um, what am I missing here guys? What am I missing in the chat? Let's see what are some of my faults that I have found revolving around an iced up cool room.

What are some of the faults that I have found revolving around? An ice tub cool room Brett from Brisbane, so I'm assuming you're talking about a walk-in cooler and basically majority of the time. If we have an ice tub, walk-in cooler, it's usually that the temperature controller is not shutting the system off properly, for whatever reason it could be, because they've got a door being left open, that's bringing heat into the box. It could be also that the unit doesn't have proper defrost, and that is a great thing that I want to cover to. I get this question and comment a lot.

Why do you have a defrost clock on a walk-in cooler? People say you don't need a defrost clock on a walk-in cooler. Well, yes, you do alright plain and simple there's some situations where you might get away with it, but you really should. If you look at the science behind it, your walk-in cooler is typically set for 40 degrees, okay or usually lower. We usually don't go 40 degrees anymore.

In the past, we, the temperature setpoint used to be 41, but now we typically set them for anywhere from 35 to 38 degrees as we're a walk-in cooler. Setpoint is but when the box temp and when the when the condensing unit is running in the box, temp is out 35 degrees and it's just about to satisfy that evaporator, coils, typically 10 to 15 degrees colder than the air temperature in the box. Therefore, that evaporator coil is below freezing and oftentimes an off cycle defrost. So when it satisfies, is not enough to remedy frost or ice build up on the evaporator coil.
So that's why we need to have a defrost clock now. Excuse me: I got the coke nose again with the with an off cycle. Defrost, it's just not enough for most of the time to take care of that extra frost. You definitely need to have the defrost clock.

Now we have mechanical defrost clocks. Those are slowly being phased out and we're going to like the electro or the electronic temperature controllers, such as, like the ke to temp + defrost controller. We use that on a lot of reach-in, coolers and walk-in coolers, and it has a defrost, basically clock built into the temperature controller. There's a couple other manufacturers that make them dick Sol makes a controller that has a defrost built into it.

Ok and those are becoming more and more popular, but you definitely need defrost, ok, so very important. Sorry, my nose! It's going crazy right now! All right, let me see, did I finish piping, the piping job in the last video Jeffrey. The only thing I haven't done on that piping job is, I haven't, put the line set cover on. I believe they were supposed to have the line set covered done today.

So then I'll have to probably go back out there this week. Another thing I want to point out: if any of you guys: yes, I will explain the hot gas and electric defrost. Don't let me forget if I, if any of you guys follow me on social media, you saw that I actually posted something about a wall. I stopped walking cooler this weekend and it was that same walking, cooler that I did the piping job for, and I got to tell you when I got the phone call that their walk-in cooler was, that 50 degrees, my butt puckered.

I was thinking that I didn't fix a leak or I didn't. I had a leak. Basically, I was worried that I had a leak when I arrived at the customer site. I found that the evaporator coil was completely iced up.

I was never in my life. Have I been so happy to see an iced up, evaporator coil? I was ecstatic because it meant that I didn't have a leak. I was sweating that one but and that when it ended up being the doors broken, it's not shutting correctly and the defrost clock was bad. So I ended up temporarily putting in a key to therm their, not temporarily, but I put in a key to therm, temp Plus defrost controller that had built-in defrost disconnected the defrost clock on the roof and then we're giving them a quote to replace the walk-in door.
So good gosh knows: okay, so John Smith, jr.. What tool did I use to hook up my purge hose to copper? So, okay, that's that's a really good question. So I put a link in the video show notes and I will actually pull that up right now and throw the link in here for you. But I put a link in the video show notes, and actually I don't even need to do that.

I've got it right over here and let me minimize this and I'll give you that link if I can find it real, quick, let's see right here there we go, it's basically made by JB manufacturing and it's a little step bit and it's meant to insert in The pipe and then have a connection for your your hose. Basically, so let me see it's right here. You can find it here. It is right here you can find it at your local supply house.

Anybody that sells JB should have that, but I will go ahead and post a link to it right now for you control V and there you go. That's an Amazon affiliate link. So how do I fix an evaporator that has an ice block? You got to melt the ice first Andrew completely, so turn the system off defrost it. However, you need to and then turn the system back on and diagnose.

Why diced-up things don't ice up for no reason, so all right! So, let's get to the question of Carlos. I want to answer yours real quick, Carlos Avant's servantes. You said turbo torch or oxy-acetylene, okay, so I do oxy-acetylene for my torches I don't use a turbo torch or a B tank. None of that I do oxy acetylene brazing, okay.

I know some people use the turbo torch and they love it. I'm just I'm I'm old school and I'm stubborn, so I use my oxy acetylene rig. So alright. So the question about, let me see where this says Petri Bob along.

I don't know if I said your screen name right, but you said: can I explain hot gas and electric defrost controls? Well high gas and electric defrost controls are pretty much the same thing. Okay, typically use a defrost time clock or you can use an electronic temperature controller that has defrost built into it. Okay, but essentially, on a timed basis. You're gon na put the system into a defrost, so many different times a day, all right and you're.

Basically, gon na close a switch send power to whether it be a valve, a solenoid valve that diverts hot gas through the evaporator or to a contactor that energizes a set of strip heaters that helps to defrost the coil. Okay. Now, on both of those you're gon na have limit switches that help to make sure that the defrost doesn't run too long or get too hot. Each manufacturer is gon na, have different limit switches if you're dealing with electric defrost you're, typically gon na, have a heater safety control that will shut off the heaters.

If they ever get, the system gets too hot. It will typically have a defrost termination switch that if the coil gets so warm it'll terminate defrost, and then you have a fan delay for when the defrost is done. So you don't blow the condensation that is now built up on the evaporator coil from the melted frost out into the box, because if you have, if you don't have that fan, delay, you're gon na create icicles all over the ceiling and cause problems. Okay, I'd be glad to talk a little bit more about electric defrost or hot gas defrost.
If you have more questions, you can simply email me, two HVAC, our videos at gmail.com and I'll try to get to them for you guys. Okay, let's see what I'm missing here. Oh sorry, I got a tech drink, alright, no more apple juice. For me, right now, alright have I seen POA oil clogging a capillary tube storm.

So that's a very common issue that we had, especially when one 134a got super popular in 90s and 2000's. We had a lot of systems that had capillary tubes and when they switched over to pol they had I'm sorry when they switched over to 134a. We were using POA oil and what was happening. It's not so much the oils fault, it's the lack of proper preventative maintenance, that's causing the system to overheat and run high, condensing temps, it's starting to break down the oil and also contaminants that are in the system and it's creating kind of like a sludge.

And yes, it will plug up capillary tubes, it will cause issues. The biggest thing is, is you have to be cleaning your equipment? You have to be changing the filters rinsing the condensers off and you should never have a problem. So if you have a properly maintained condensing unit for with 134a, that has a capillary tube it'll be fine, so long as it stays clean and or so long as the condenser doesn't overheat. Now it can be clean but being a kitchen, that's too hot and cause issues too.

They typically don't want to see condensing temps on 134a really over. You know hundred and thirty degree, condensing temp I mean no. You don't even want to see it that much on a cap tube system. You typically don't want to see anything over like a hundred degree, condensing tempo up rate in a 70 to an 85 degree ambient.

So eighty five, ninety five hundred yeah one hundred and five hundred and ten would be the highest, the condensing temporal and, yes, it definitely plugs up the capillary tubes and alcohol causes all kinds of problems now. Can I also tell you that if you have a plugged up capillary tube on one thirty-four, a if it's just a slight restriction, you might get away with changing the dryer and changing the cap to okay? I don't ever clean cap tubes. I change them now. If you're dealing with, for instance, true manufacturing, they will actually approve you to change the condensing unit.

If you have a plugged up cap, if you just tell them, this thing has a severely plugged up cap tube and I'm concerned about the oil they'll. Send you out a new condensing unit, for that thing, just got a call and talked to him about it all right. Your best bet, you know in a in a in a perfect world when you have a plugged up cap tube on 134a because of contaminants is to replace the oil. That's your best bet.
That's the only way, you're gon na guarantee that you don't have an issue with it again and put a proper dryer on there. I, like the spore'ln 32 cap, t dryers. Those things are my favorite for cleaning up cap tube systems. They do a good job.

Those copper spun dryers that come with the treu boxes and all the other manufacturers you throw those copper spun dryers in the trash. They don't do you any good, they're junk. All right. You need to put a proper dryer on there.

I prefer the spoiling cap T, but there is other manufacturers too. They use the desiccant style dryer cores and they are awesome. Those copper spun things are just junk, throw them away. So alright, let's see what else yeah it is coke nose, Joe yeah man, see it's like a twitch, it's starting to itch like crazy.


3 thoughts on “Hvacr videos q and a livestream 12/09/19”
  1. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Ser Zambrano says:

    Have you ever had to go behind a mentor and find several mistakes. And would bring up in a conversation. Are you in Barrhaven ?

  2. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Mario Martinez says:

    Have you ever addressed insulation as a show topic? there aren't many videos on the subject matter. Just general air conditioning stuff, I feel there is a need for one, Like when do you replace it for instance when you start to see dry rot, what are the differences between manufacturers. thicknesses, white vs. black insulation, what tape to use, painting it , what must be insulated , tricks to insulation difficult fixtures.spray insulation and when to use it. ….etc. etc….There is nothing out there that is technical as well as definitive when it comes to the subject matter. I feel as if it's an important subject that just kind of gets a pass by everyone, as always great channel great info always appreciate what you do.

  3. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Christian Fredericks says:

    Good video chris

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