Two new bills pending in the U.S. Senate are designed to speed the electrification of HVAC systems, decrease the amount of fossil fuels (such as natural gas and oil) used in buildings, and cut carbon emissions. Both would offer financial incentives for the production of certain electric-powered HVAC equipment, particularly heat pumps — both geothermal and air-source — and heat-pump water heaters. In this video we go through the ICEE HOT and HEATR bills and some of the things you can expect if they are passive and become laws/acts.
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Guys want to do a quick video on two new bills that are pending in in the us. Senate. That are going to affect the heating and air industry. So the making of this video both of these bills are currently pending in the senate finance committee.

So i wanted to go through these so if you watch my videos you'll know what these are and i believe that they're going to affect the industry. I don't know if they're going to affect the industry as drastically as some of the laws passed in the past or as much as the new efficiency standards that are coming out and things like that and then of course during the making this video. We've begun the phase out of 410a refrigerant this year. Both of these bills will affect the industry at least a little bit in the sense that some of the products that you're used to being able to buy you won't even be able to buy anymore so let's talk about what the two bills are first and that way i could fill in a few blanks at the end.

The first one is called installing clean efficient energy hastens. Our transition or they've abbreviated it as icy hot and it's sponsored by a democrat massachusetts. Senator. Ed markey.

And it would amend the energy policy act of 2005 by expanding an existing rebate program with 10 billion dollars in funding from the 2023 through 2030 fiscal years four other democratic senators have signed on to the bill. The bill would make it to where manufacturers and distributors would be eligible for rebates for heat pumps heat pump water heaters and certain heat pump close dryers induction or non induction electric stoves smart electric panels and other electrical appliances as determined by the secretary of energy. The interesting thing about both of these bills they're pushing electricity they want everything in your home to be powered by electricity versus fossil fuels which is interesting because if you go back not to get political i don't really care you know where you fall. But if you were to go back a decade or two the democratic party was pushing uh natural gas big time and so i'm not sure i don't really keep up with politics enough to know what's changed or anything like that but that's what both of these bills are meaning to do manufacturing distributors receiving rebates would be required to pass at least 90 percent of their value onto the consumers in the form of lower prices for those items the icy hot act would transition homes across america away from costly dirty fossil fuels towards cheaper cleaner renewable energy marquee said in a press release with this legislation we can put americans to work manufacturing.

The clean energy. Revolution the bill would require electrification products to meet its definition of us. Made in order to qualify for the rebates that means that at least 55 of the components of each product would have to be mined produced or manufactured in the us. So that's a good thing they are actually pushing for jobs here in the us.

The second bill. The heating efficiency and affordability through tax relief act. And they're abbreviating. This one.
It's keat r. So h. E. A t r.

And it's sponsored by senator. Amy kublicar. Democrat from minnesota would offer manufacturers tax credits for making heat pumps and heat pump water heaters six other democratic senators have also signed on to this bill tax credits under the heat are act an amendment to the internal revenue code would be as high as 800 for each energy star qualified heat pump water heater and as high as a thousand dollars for each residential space heating heat pump that meets energy star criteria credits for commercial and industrial heat. Pumps based on btu h.

Output could be even higher so here's the thing if you're in the market for a heating and air system. If you're looking at more of a more efficient system higher seer. Then this might play a role in your decision. Making knowing that these rebates might be coming out soon the legislation is a win win reducing energy costs for consumers while strengthening access to clean energy efficient heating solutions said kublacar in a press release.

A spokeswoman for the air conditioning heating and refrigeration institute ahri. Which a lot of you know that i talk about the ahri. All the time it represents hvac equipment. Manufacturers said.

The organization had no position on either of the acts or bills. Which i find interesting because i do again. I think these are going to affect our industry somewhat rebates you know they're basically throwing money at consumers saying. Hey if you go this route versus that route.

But this could also open the door for other things in the. Future the two new bills pending in the us senate are designed to speed the electrification of hvac systems decrease the amount of fossil fuels such as natural gas and oil used in buildings and cut carbon emissions both would offer financial incentives for the production of certain electric powered hvac equipment particularly heat pumps both geothermal and air source and heat pump water heaters. The bills represent another push from dc for greater energy efficiency in june. The department of energy proposed phasing out the manufacture of non weatherized residential furnaces of less than 95.

Efficiency. And president. Joe biden. Invoked the defense production act in an effort to increase.

The manufacturing availability of energy saving technologies. Including heat pumps and solar powered components. So another thing. I would throw out there is i tell you if you're not on board with heat pumps.

You might have to be you might have to get on board with it because i have customers that have specifically said that they don't want a heat pump for one reason or another maybe. It's past experiences maybe they want a higher heat rise in their home. A lot of my customers. Especially if they're from a northern state.
Where they're used to hotter heat rises and they just want that added heat in their home. They will usually stray from going with the heat pump system now. I've done videos just very recently uh where we've talked about how heat pumps have come a long way and i have one in my home. I i would say 90 of what we do in here in virginia are heat pumps regardless of what the backup heat source is so the last thing.

It says in this article is at the heating and air conditioning and refrigeration distributors international. Alex ayers. The director of government affairs said that while icy hot looks on the surface like it would help consumers the quotas on who the money goes towards were designed by policy makers with no understanding of the wholesale industry. I'm going to get to that in just a second so hold on to the end of this video ayers pointed out to incentives.

That he said work. Better such as one of the 2017 tax reform bills that allowed small business to expense the full cost of an hvac system replacement. There is no reason for the senate to try and reinvent the will and try to accomplish policy goals completely unrelated to heat pumps or hvacr industry through this legislation. He said so anyway hopefully you don't hear that i've got somebody working outside and they're using one of those leaf blowers.

I just want to end with this i'm not saying that these bills are good or bad. Especially. If you are already looking at doing a higher seer heat pump appliance in your house. You might be very appreciative of these rebates.

But i will say that i think that it's interesting that a lot of these folks pushing these policies making these laws. I would dare say that they probably have not even had a conversation with someone like myself or someone in the industry. And the reason. I believe that is a lot of my colleagues.

A lot of you guys that watch these videos will sometimes point out that your customers don't want higher seer systems. They don't want higher efficiency stuff for one reason or another maybe they don't see the value there maybe now they will if they're getting a little help with rebates. I don't know i think sometimes when they're pushing this stuff. Obviously we know how you know laws work.

We know how politicians work they're probably getting money from someone pushing this for one reason or another. But i would think that if they're going to do something that's going to affect the heating and air market in this way. I would love for them to have a conversation. I'm not saying they got to call me.

I'm nothing special some of the higher ups in our industry. Maybe have a conversation with some of the executives from some of the leading heating and air brands. Maybe have a conversation with some of the folks that have way bigger youtube channels than i do that do heating and air stuff. I am curious though if you're watching this what are your thoughts comment down below.
I'd love to know where we're going from here. What do you think is this just the beginning are we going to see more laws like this we're already under a crunch. Here. Where prices of everything seem to be rising inflation and of course now they're phasing out technologies and things are going up in price because of that 410a refrigerant just in the last five years.

I mean. It's multiplied. I don't know maybe this is a sign of things to come i just started doing youtube a few years ago. And i feel like i do a lot more videos on things that are bad in the industry than i do on things that are good someday i'll get to do a video.

Where i say oh my gosh. This is coming out. Oh yay you know i feel like i don't get to ever do that anymore so anyway. Thanks for watching hit that subscribe button.

We'll see you next time.

18 thoughts on “New hvac laws in the senate 2022”
  1. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Richard Salley says:

    After what I've seen from 2020 to 2022, I don't want any more bright ideas from the Dummycrats. Are you in Kanata ?

  2. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars brad dibble says:

    It's called CLIMATE CHANGE!! We need to really do as much as we can to cut carbon emissions.

  3. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Kenster says:

    Nobody seems to mention Heat Pumps in my area – northern Midwest. Are Heat Pumps not viable in super frigid Midwest winters?

  4. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars William Frederick III says:

    Love your videos! Not a lot of fluff at the beginning, lots of good info and insights!

  5. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars C says:

    Q….. How the Hatiti is Elec made? Natural gas, nuke, solar, wind, a coal? All greenhouse gases Google says 45% of all greenhouse is created by electric power. Service area Orleans??

  6. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Shamus A says:

    Griff, thanks for the update. Wondering like many where all the electricity will comes from. How about those EV too? lol Out of this world insane. Best to you in the Old Dominion.

  7. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars smacleod69 says:

    What is the government doing about the building new power plants? Can't have all of this electrical appliance working off 240 volts and expect the demand of electricity rise! This is why I don't trust these officials!

  8. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Garth Clark says:

    California has power rates that are 36 cents to 46 cents per kWh. Your average summer electric bill is about $500 if you use your central A/C to be comfortable. Some folks turn their thermostats up to 78 or 80 in summer to avoid the ridiculous power bill of $15 to $20 per day ! Folks in CA are not comfortable in any form during summer and they want to push heat pumps? They want folks to move from gas to electric when gas is 3 times more efficient than electric per therm vs. kWh. So, this creates a new problem, just like in the 1970's when cars had to be cleaner burning but the gas mileage went from 20 to 10 MPG in just 3 years. Same with this idea. Folks are going to have to pay stupid high rates for electric heating which everyone knows is no competition to gas.

    I believe you are right, no one in the house or senate has stepped foot into an HVAC test facility or an independent HVAC contractors business doing any research with the real world. Not to mention, if its cold enough, the heat pump idea will double the use of power making its cost to operate almost impossible for the average heat pump home due to the 10,000 watts its going to consume to heat a house. Guess what else in California? They won't allow wood burning stoves or fireplace inserts due to the heat source, wood etc. New building codes are in place with many counties in CA that do not allow any natural gas piped to new construction which means, no gas BBQ, no gas fireplace, water heating, cooking, clothes dryer, no hobbyist ovens etc., no gas furnaces. It's got to be all electric. Guess who runs the power grid in CA? The Governor does and he also over see's the CPUC and runs CA ISO and they all tell the big 3 power distributors when to start blackouts because the "state" draws a line on how much energy the state should consume as a whole per day which is about 45 megawatts. Regardless that there is power supply, the state will order blackouts once the meter is approaching 45 megawatts.

    And yes, you are totally correct, the Government pushed natural gas in the 1970's as "clean burning" natural gas and even developed ways to convert trucks mostly to run on natural gas. Now they are 100% against it because someone said the CO2 is a bad thing and has been for over 100 years. But electric power made with natural gas turbines is okay because there isn't enough solar and hydro power to take care of the USA. They must think that that one or two gas turbine electric power stations will pollute less that 1 million gas HVAC units would. Are you in Barrhaven ?

  9. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Steven Burks says:

    Gotta love hypocrite politicians

  10. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Dustin Montgomery says:

    Using electricity to heat is much more expensive as compared to natural gas.

  11. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Ivan Estrada says:

    We are destined to use up energy. All these energy policies only make us spend more energy by mining, transporting, manufacturing, storing all this equipment. Another question is if you set you stat at 74F during current energy consumption and you replace your system with a high efficiency one, will you lower your set point because you are already used to paying more on your electric bill????? So now you are willing to lower the setpoint to 71F because you are using the same amount of energy?? I really don't think this is about saving energy, it's all about helping manufacturers sell more equipment, therefore increase their profits

  12. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars peralta2912 says:

    I am under the impression that in 2023 15 ser units are going to be a mandate. And they are pushing 454A ref

  13. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars c c says:

    When it comes to government it's not about what you want, it's about who is putting money in their pockets.

  14. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Achernarpolis says:

    Will this be retroactive to purchases this year? Why should we invest now if a rebate will only be available next year?

  15. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Michael W. Perry says:

    It is easy to see how manufacturers could game the system, cooking the books to pass along much less of that 90% subsidy to consumers. And where heat is needed, as with a water heater, it is ridiculous to push out gas water heaters, replacing them with electric ones. Natural gas will often end up generating the electricity far away, introducing substantial waste into the system. And finally, with budget deficits running in the trillions, why are we subsidizing anything? If one technology can't win out be being a better deal for consumers, we shouldn't be forcing our grandchildren to pay for subsidizing schemes that force us to adopt less efficient tech.

  16. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Retired at 49 says:

    But the electric power comes from coal and natural gas in most states. I don't see how making everything electric in your home gets around not using fossil fuels at the end of the day. Let's not forget that if every home goes totally electric it will put more strains on an already strained electric grid thereby burning more fossil fuels! It's just silly!

  17. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Mike & Erin says:

    Just what we need, more government subsidies paid for by the American tax payer. Ridiculous when inflation is an advertised 9.1% but real CPI is 17+%.

  18. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Mike & Erin says:

    60% or more of homes use electricity for heat…

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