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02:27 BUT WAIT THERE IS MORE
02:38 CARRIER DRAIN PAN ISSUE
05:06 HOW I LIKE MY P TRAPS
06:57 CLOSING WORDS

This video is brought to you by sportlin quality, integrity and tradition. So this is a really interesting one. I got a call that the dishwasher exhaust fan is not working and these pieces are bolted or welded to the dishwasher and they've fallen off. Therefore, the pants, we call that the pants has fallen down out of where it's secured into the ductwork above and they're, saying that when they turn the dishwasher on all the water shoots out and everything, and it just makes a giant mess, what the heck man, i Don't know if this was sheared off or if the tack welds came off, but this is tacked on and this is tacked on which usually it's not usually we just secure that with a rivet, but that's a whole nother thing, but makes me wonder if this was Secured on at one point i don't know, that's a trip, but it did it on both sides.

Look at that. That is a trip huh. I always find the most interesting things in attics. So look at this someone.

This is like got tension on it. Someone secured this duct work with wire, i don't understand, and then this i don't understand what this wire is doing, but this whole thing dropped down. It's supposed to slide over. So not only do we have to lift these up, then we have to get it positioned.

Right to where it slides over that that's going to be a problem all right, so we got it pushed up to where it should be. We got it in the duct on the top. We cut two by fours to the right length, see that and we just got to kind of pull it over to where we need it, we'll line it up and then we're going to send stainless steel bolts and have a nut on the other end through. So we're not going to weld this because it should be removable.

So stainless steel should be perfect all right using some redneck ingenuity. Some two by fours, cut the length we were able to get it all bolted together. So we got one two three, those other things coming through aren't mine, but we put a stainless steel bolts with uh nylon nuts. On the other side, we got three on each side and then we got it all back in up there so why it happened.

I don't know, but they should never have another problem with it again, and these should never be welded. They should always be bolted. So should all this because then you could take it apart to work on it. You know but yeah.

Luckily, i had another person with me, but all is well so they're done all right. Um, we have got a different one. Today, we're gon na be changing a drain pan on this unit. This is a very common carrier issue.

What happens is the drain pan? It's fiberglass and it breaks the threads are gone. There's nothing left a lot of people like you can try putting tape on there to make it thicker to get it to stick in, but we constantly get service calls where this thing falls off um. So we're going to go ahead. We have to pull this whole unit apart to do this, but we're going to go ahead and change the drain pan and we're also going to fix this drain line too now.
I do have two people here with me because i quoted it this way: um the easiest way. Some people will fight it and they can do it, but the easiest way is just pop: the top on the unit pop the top and disassemble everything there's screws coming down from here that are awkward to get. You got to move that drain. That bracket like it's.

It's a pain in the butt, but and then there should be a couple screws. It's an old oil leak back in there we've repaired that there should be yeah. There's some screws down at the bottom right down in there that are holding the drain pen in too. So it's a pretty big process to do this.

All right got the whole side of the unit off um. When you're doing this, you got to watch because this whole thing flexes right here you got to make sure you get that back up where it needs to be now, there's going to be a bunch of screws down in here going straight down right here we got To get in those and then also on the end of this drain, pan there's two screws. Those are the ones that i was talking about that are way down in there. So we got to get down in there too, we're currently working on getting the coil out of the way.

So maybe we can wedge our way back in there if this is safe, we just got to watch it to make sure and we recently cleaned this, but i think we might be able to get in there now. So we found a cinder block. It's not the greatest, but it's propping this up, um we're completely free from the drain pan, but the drain pan is kind of like stuck in there. So i'm thinking it's just got some silicone.

On the other end, we just need to lift up on the evaporative coil pull it out. The evaporator coil is still connected on the other side, but everything's gon na flex. This isn't you know these aren't fun, it's a chore. I have to stand up in the compressor section to get these two screws.

We got them now. We got it all screwed in and we just got to kind of center. Everything um again quote these things as a two-person job or you're going to be miserable. So i said earlier that we have two people here, so i'm going to actually go get a bunch of drain fittings because i don't have everything we need to redo the drain.

So i'm going to leave one person here assembling the unit. I went ahead and helped him put the top on and then the rest he can do by himself putting the fan motors in hooking them back up and stuff, so teamwork trying to be as efficient as possible all right. We just made a new trap and got rid of that mumbo jumbo okay. So when i make my traps i like t's everywhere, so we have a t right here, a t right here and a t right here.

It's important that this t and or this t is lower than this, because if the mean was to ever plug up, the water would back up and overflow that tee before it backed all the way up into the unit and overflowed in the drain. Pan. Now, of course, if it plugs up inside the drain pan you got nothing here, but we also put a trap right here. I mean a t right here with a clean out.
That is removable. I think it's hot yeah, it's too hot for me to grab, but it's removable um that way it doesn't break the negative air pressure, uh safety, that the trap is doing so because this return air and the drain pan is on the return air side. There's a negative pressure on there, it's pulling on that pipe and that's why we have to have this water in here, because it prevents air from sucking in through there now. If we didn't have this trap, what would happen is it would actually suck in air through the drain and it wouldn't let the water drain out and it would actually overflow inside? While this is just open - and you know you could literally take this off of the unit and you can have it running and you'll see the water just barely drip drip while it's overflowing inside, so we got a nice new trap.

We got to clean it up a little bit more because we still have some flux on it. You always want to clean off the flux with a wet towel, so we're working on that and then we're going to start this guy up all right. This unit is beat down man. This condenser has been straightened so many times you can tell by the way the fins are wavy that we've taken straighteners to it.

But the problem is the condenser gets weak and then it just goes flat again right away. Um but uh i mean they wanted to fix it. You know so it's up and running both compressors came back on drain lines done happy with that. I love that setup right there um.

That's it we're gon na wrap this one up, so these were just two short ones that i've been sitting on and i you know needed to make a video of, and i figured i'd, throw them together. So the first one we got a service call on the dishwasher spraying water everywhere and we don't work on dishwashers. So i was like wait. What and they're like? No it's the exhaust fan like they were trying to explain to me what happened and they're like the exhaust fan fell and i'm like what the exhaust fan's on the roof and they're like yeah it like fell down, and i i didn't understand what they were talking About so then i go out there and it's this okay, so the the pants had fallen down.

Now we call those the those ducks right, they're, stainless steel ducks. We call them stainless steel, pants and so those go together and then go up and um. Somehow i don't understand what happened here because and the other thing too, i showed that wire that wire wasn't holding anything up. I don't know what that was about.

I think someone used that to to hold something when they were working or some. I don't know i don't understand what those wires were there for, but they were just literally tied to a gas line, i think or something, but they weren't doing anything. So what should have been there was there should have been tack, welds or something of some sort on the dishwasher in pieces that were connected to it, and i don't know where they went now. There was little screws coming through the opposite direction like maybe for an accessory for the dishwasher or something, but there was no holes and no signs of attack, weld which was tripping me out, because i don't know how all that weight and that was really really heavy.
That's all stainless steel, it's probably um 16 gauge, maybe it's it's rather heavy. I mean it was really really a struggle to get it up. We could i had two people and we tried to lift it and we couldn't lift it. We could only lift one side together at a time, but we went and used some redneck ingenuity ran over to home depot got some two by fours figured out how tall we needed them and then wedged them under and together, like i had him lift, and i Slid them under and then pushed it up, and then we did the same on the other side, and then that gave us the ability to get inside the dishwasher and drill some stainless steel bolts through got to make sure if you're going to do something like this.

You have to use stainless steel, it's not going to last very long at all inside that dishwasher with all the chemicals that they use and everything in there the chlorines and you use some weird metal. Just you have to use stainless so, like i said normally what i do in this situation, i was kind of surprised that all the duct work was welded. Usually, if i put it together, because this happens a lot where they'll replace the dishwasher and i have to redo all the duct work, usually i'll, just use stainless steel rivets that way it's removable and we'll just put in a bunch of rivets and then they last Forever i've never had a problem, but this one there was no rivets. No anything, i don't even know, i don't know, but anyways we got it taken care of.

You know we got the dishwasher exhaust put back up. The fan on the roof was working fine. It was just, and i think what they meant when they were saying it was spraying. Water out everywhere is just because there's curtains in there and you know it's just coming out the top of that little duct or whatever you want to call it inside that in piece that duck piece that fell down is an actual damper that um you can set.

So that way, one side pulls more than the other, so anyways that wasn't too difficult and then on to the next one is the drain pan. So it's really common on those carrier units for the drain pans to just break where the threads are and what happens is is whenever you have to clean out the trap or do work on the unit fix the drain line. You end up like moving the drain line and over time it just cracks that fiberglass, it's it's just glass and it just gets really splintery and you can kind of you know just brush it and you can see little fiberglass flakes floating by so um again. I can't believe these customers, you know, want to keep fixing these units, but whatever i'll do what they want.
You know so uh we went ahead and pulled that drain pan out it's a pain in the butt to do that. It's definitely a two-person job. Like i said, you want to make sure you have two people when you're doing those things um and it's shady the taking out the drain pan, because and that that's what trips me out, the weight of the indoor blower assembly is pushing on the top of those Six screws on the top of the drain, pan that's what's holding up the indoor blower assembly now it also gets like four screws through the side panel, which actually gives it rigidity too and helps to support it. But it still trips me out that all that weight is sitting on the drain pan, but regardless we looked around the roof again using some redneck ingenuity.

We found a uh cinder block on the roof, uh that the satellite guys weren't using it wasn't. Even there wasn't even room in their satellites for it, so you got to be careful too, when you're grabbing cinder blocks on the roof, because majority of the times they're there to weigh down the satellites in case the wind, so the wind doesn't blow them over. So if you start stealing cinder blocks from their satellite stands, eventually the satellite's going to fall over and that's going to lead to a service call and the customer is going to be pissed off because they have to pay the satellite guy to come out and go Collect his cinder blocks from around the roof. You know, so you want to make sure you're paying attention if you're moving them.

If you do take, one temporarily make sure you put it back on the satellite stand but um we we use that cinder block to kind of hold up the ender blower assembly, because it was really bowing down and shady and then yeah just little by little really Wasn't difficult, it was more just you had to meticulous you had to take apart the whole unit and again i've heard i i don't know how. But i've heard people say that they can do that with one person. I think you're crazy, i'm sure someone could it would be miserable though um two people's best. You know it's.

I try to take someone with me for most of these jobs and the customer's fine. When i quoted, i just quote it for two people. I think i quoted that job for two guys, eight hours each we didn't use that. I think we got it done in like two guys, four hours each or something like that um, but it wasn't that difficult and we try to do teamwork.

You know, like i said i needed to go, get a bunch of fittings to do the drain line. So i did that while someone else was putting the unit back together, wiring in the condenser fan motors and everything but uh just do yourself a favor and remember. If most of the time, if you're struggling with something you're, probably doing something wrong, okay, if something is really really difficult, take a step back and think about it. Look at the big picture think about it for a minute majority of the time, there's an easy way to do things like.
I know the sometimes there's a manufacturer that does something insane and puts a screw in a place where they shouldn't put a screw or whatever, but majority of the time, if you just stop, take a breather think about it for a minute. So in this situation on that ec, i just kind of looked at it and it's like okay, you know the easiest way is just to pull the top pull the side and just take the whole thing apart. You know two people knock it out. It's easier too, like when i i split the condenser, pulled it out and had my other uh technician that was there with me, hold it while i climbed in the unit, then he put the condenser back.

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50 thoughts on “They said the dish exhaust fell from the roof ????”
  1. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars kfl611 says:

    I thought you were calling the stainless steel pans, stainless steel pants. ha ha ha. Good fix.

  2. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Zepher Tensho says:

    I thought you were an hvac guy why were you fixing a dishwasher lol

  3. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars HVACR Technician says:

    Is there a reason why your drains are in copper? Here in Quebec Canada we use PVC for our rooftops. Are you in Ottawa ?

  4. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Jeff Kablock says:

    40 years of doing that work in florida lol Service area Orleans??

  5. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars charlie faure says:

    And good luck getting those pans right now.. backordered to infinity. I usually pull the economizer out. And I put a rachet strap from the end of the blower to the other side of the unit to help hold it up whole I get the pan swapped. Totally stupid design, fragile fiberglass pan built as a structural component.

  6. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Brad Illes says:

    Great help from Nor Cal Great videos

  7. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars GAGE MANTHEY says:

    That’s what you would call an ahole install for that ducting, welding is classic. Looks like possibly the whole weight of the ducting was on those welds. But please, take it from the guy who has to work on that style of dishwasher, don’t have the y ducting that close to the box on the dishwasher otherwise you can’t get the top off or you aren’t able to get to the components. Anywho, just my two cents. Good repair

  8. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars BUZ1952 Z says:

    Why should you wipe the flux off?

  9. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Don Terrone says:

    They probably used Aluminum rivets and the dielectric effect in the washer dissolved them over time

  10. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars JAWmankato says:

    Do you have to use copper pipe for condensate drains in California?

  11. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Yammzayindoee says:

    Thanks for the info on those drain pans, I had one of those crack on me in the same spot the other day during a maintenance trying to adjust the drain line. It just cracked right off lol

  12. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars chemech says:

    I've been doing industrial ventilation for way too long, but this is the first time that I've heard an inverted Y duct called "pants" rather than "pant legs"

    No harm, no fouls, but it made me stop for half a beat to reset my headspace & timing

  13. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Wintersky136 says:

    Do you even notice that your „closing words“ are longer than the whole video? Service area Nepean??

  14. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Connor McCarter says:

    2×4 and a bottle jack? Awesome fix either way. Thanks for what you do!

  15. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Jeffery Grady says:

    I learned that you give the hardest job to the laziest person and they will figure out the easiest way to do it! Why struggle by yourself when it's much easier faster and safer with two people ! That Duc work was interesting never seen anything like that before ! Like those short videos! What other unusual things do you run into Chris? Service area Barrhaven??

  16. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars normdoty says:

    sorry to let you know but they haven't made "cinder blocks" in over 50 years they are "concrete blocks" much heaver and stronger than cinder blocks.. great video's though .. Are you in Orleans ?

  17. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Edward Myers says:

    That Dishwasher needs some cleaning

  18. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Kato gojira says:

    Yeah I've seen that in a lot of restaurants and management don't give gk

  19. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Drummerboy's Washers And More says:

    I was not expecting to open a HVACR video and hear “the pants had fallen down.” Great video as always!

  20. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars EL CRAZY says:

    I always run into the same issues with those units. I have used a tap and die set and it created new threads. Just enough for the male adapter to grab good. Haven’t had any issues. That’s a lot of hours for just a drain pan. Hate that carrier setup. That’s why I love Lennox unit drain pans. Good job like always Chris. Thanks for teaching us new things. 🍻

  21. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Timo de Porto says:

    Someone might have used alloy pop rivets for the ducts, and the chlorine in the dishwash soap slowly dissolves the alloy and it falls down after a while, so, the stainless steel bolts will do the job!

  22. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Jojo Viray says:

    Do you use different gauges for different refrigerants? Like if the unit uses r410a and the other unit is r22. Thanks bro.

  23. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Dodger says:

    Regarding the drain-pan would it not have been easier just installing a 3/4” tank connector,
    Seems a lot of unnecessary work!
    I imagine your paid by the hour😉😉👍🏻

  24. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars pillsburied says:

    10 miserable hours for one guy or 4 hours each for two guys. I know which one I prefer!

  25. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars KARAORS says:

    🧠🛠️🤳👍🇹🇷

  26. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars C117LS says:

    So the whole pants assembly was hanging by a piece of wire off the sprinkler pipe…. YES 😂

  27. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Thecody503 says:

    I work in IT, but I love your videos!!! Thank you for sharing your knowledge and experience. It's really appreciated. You tell the details. IE the cinder block/satalite guys

  28. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Michael Groff says:

    If you do take a block from a dish do it gently they are very sensitive and easy to put it off kilter

  29. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Rock town says:

    Just did my first no heat of the year on that same model carrier

  30. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Roger Ghiardi says:

    Good job on ductwork

  31. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Marshal Jim Duncan says:

    Pair a pants….

  32. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Bob Y says:

    CHRIS ,I am going to correct you a little bit because you left out one word, they are called pants legs,👖

  33. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Fixitall Paul says:

    Why would anyone call that pants?

  34. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars NH1887 says:

    Had a similar call this week “leaking ductwork”…. dishwasher exhaust motor burnt up. Replaced the motor and found the leaks in the seams caulked them and recommended the call a welder to fix the improperly welded seam. Big picture.

  35. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Harry Dickson says:

    👍👍👍

  36. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Princess Walt says:

    love all that shiny copper work and two unions to boot!

  37. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Nightwind292 says:

    Feel like somebody tried to fix the "pants" badly and did something horrible and temporary, that latter broke, and you fixed it properly. Service area Kanata??

  38. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Joe Jach says:

    ''Ecolab,'' that sums it all up

  39. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Mac Tee says:

    On one video can you explain how to size those traps? I know when the coil is on the return size of the blower you really need to size the trap dimensions properly and I’ve never really known how to size them in the field

  40. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Matthew Trevett says:

    When you install a new P trap, do you have to pre-fill it with water?

  41. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars atom starfire productions says:

    When I read the title I thought something happened like the fan blade fell down the duct or something

  42. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Jermaine G says:

    Thanks for your trutech discount. Picked up a field piece vacuum pump. Trying figure out if I should get the field piece micron gauge or stick with the blue vac in the kit 🤔

  43. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars FLYINGHIGH55 says:

    Love the videos. Keep em coming. Been watching for a little over 2 years now. Pretty much since I joined the service side of hvac. I Appreciate the time and effort you put into explaining the steps you take, and why in every video. I believe you and your videos has helped me in the field a lot.

  44. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Ty Huffman says:

    One person could lift the pants easily with a hydraulic jack or two. Are you in Barrhaven ?

  45. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars VacMaster2020 says:

    You should subscribe Are you in Kanata ?

  46. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Mitchell WildFlame says:

    People still don’t know the difference between a ceiling and a roof lol

  47. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Waylon Wells says:

    👍

  48. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Silas Marner says:

    Good work on some highly neglected/abused equipment. Great video sir!

  49. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Roy Matthews says:

    Thankyou.

  50. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Mario Perez says:

    good video, on the RTU that would be nice ,here is only retap and go.

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