This 3D video demonstrates the differences between two types of HVAC Brazing torches: oxygen-acetylene (oxyacetylene) and air-acetylene (air-swirl). Both setups can be used for HVAC brazing and soldering.
The approximate temperature of an oxygen-acetylene torch at the tip is usually significantly higher than that of an air-acetylene torch. As a result, oxygen-acetylene torches heat the base metal faster than air-acetylene torches. Air-acetylene torches have a larger and broader flame, and oxy-acetylene flames tend to be more concentrated and precise. However, when using an air-acetylene torch, you must be careful because they give off more convective heat, which can damage surrounding components in the work area or cause injury. You may need a heat-blocking substance like the Refrigeration Technologies WetRag HeatShield.
In general, it takes a bit longer to set up an oxygen-acetylene torch with the proper amount of oxygen and acetylene because you have to set that ratio manually. You also need to use a striker to light an oxygen-acetylene torch. Air-acetylene torches achieve the proper ratio automatically, as they draw in air and mix it with the acetylene gas. Many of these also have a sparking mechanism built into the handle.
Overall, air-acetylene is less likely to burn through the tubing but more likely to cause heat damage to surrounding components. It cannot weld steel, but oxy-acetylene torches can. They have more of a wrap-around flame and tend to be less expensive than oxygen-acetylene torches, and they're often lighter because they leave you with fewer cylinders to carry (and without a pressurized oxygen tank, which can be dangerous).
Overall, air-acetylene torches are best for newer technicians, and oxygen-acetylene torches work better in the hands of experienced techs in tight, concentrated areas.
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In this video, we're going to show some of the differences between an Oxy or Oxygen Acetylene Brazing Rig and an Aracetylene or Air Swirl Bracing Rig. Both of these setups can be used for both brazing and soldering in HVAC applications including the repair of aluminum although I prefer the Air Acetylene for that purpose. Here, we're showing a Turbo Torch Air Swirl Brazing Rig because that is the type that I use Personally, the approximate temperature of an Oxygen Acetylene torch is 4 700 degrees Fahrenheit At the tip, an Aracetylene is approximately 2700 degrees Fahrenheit Again, there is some variation. Oxygen Acetylene torches heat the base material faster with a more concentrated flame than air acetylene. Aracetylene has a larger Flame Generally speaking, setting up an oxygen acetylene torturing requires a bit more complexity than Aracetylene. That's because the aracetylene fuel to oxygen ratio has to be manually set on an Oxygen Acetylene rig, but is automatically set with the air drawn into the torch and mixed with the acetylene gas. In an Aeracetylene rig, oxyacetylene requires using a striker and controlling the flow of oxygen acetylene at the torch handle as well as at The Regulators An Aracetylene rig has only a single handle and in many cases uses a push button spark light at the handle as shown in this video. with this: Turbo Torch tip. Here, you can see how air is drawn into the torch tip via the ports on the side and then the fuel and air are mixed via a swirl inside the tip. This results in a safe mixture of air and acetylene. Here, you can see that the oxygen acetylene tip creates a more concentrated, higher temperature smaller. Flame The aracetylene creates a broader flame which wraps around and heats more of the joint at one time, but slower. Because the oxygen acetylene is higher intensity, it requires more care not to burn through the copper. When using Aracetylene, you have to be aware that more heat projects convectively from the torch, meaning heat extends further beyond the tip than it does with oxygen acetylene. In other words, it's not as concentrated. This means you have to take more care to protect the work area behind where you're brazing. Again, oxygen acetylene is more precise with higher temperature. Aracelin projects more heat out convectively and may require more protection behind the work area. Here we show the new Refrigeration Technology's Viper wet rag heat shield, which is ideal for protecting surfaces behind both aracetylene and oxyacetylene work areas. It can also be used wet for additional protection. Here, you can see it being used to protect the paint of an air handler cabinet, as well as to protect the surfaces. Below In summary, Aracetylene has lower concern of burning through the tubing, but a slightly higher concern of heating or damaging Downstream components in the area. Both can be used to braze and solder. Air Acetylene cannot be effectively used to weld or cut steel. Air acetylene has more of a wrap around flame than a concentrated flame. Generally speaking, aerocetylene torches are less expensive than oxacetylene torches have fewer cylinders to carry and require no oxygen. Because of this, they are lighter. In addition to this, you don't have to have a pressurized oxygen tank on your vehicle which makes it safer. My recommendation is generally for newer technicians to begin to learn to braise using aracetylene and that technicians use an oxygen acetylene rig when they need to work inside of equipment where a more precise flame is needed. For example, Brazing in an expansion valve or internal components of a system. I Also recommend an air acetylene brazing rig with a three or five tip when repairing aluminum as shown in a prior video. Thanks for watching our video if you enjoyed it and got something out of it. If you wouldn't mind hitting the thumbs up button to like the video, subscribe to the channel and click the notifications Bell to be notified when new videos come out. HVAC School is far more than a YouTube channel. You can find out more by going to HVAC Ourschool.com which is our website and hub for all of our content including Tech Tips, videos, podcasts, and so much more. You can also subscribe to the podcast on any podcast app of your choosing. You can also join our Facebook group if you want to weigh in on the conversation yourself. Thanks again for watching Foreign.

16 thoughts on “Two types of hvac brazing torches 3d”
  1. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Mead Gunner says:

    A Trane virtual training video I just was in recommended propylene instead of acetylene. Ever used that?

  2. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Jordan Mann says:

    Where do you get the viper mats?

  3. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars aimee madigan says:

    Where can I get the heatshield?! I donโ€™t see anything online and I want one!

  4. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Paul Garas says:

    Strongly encourage the use of oxy fuel for commercial work. The wider range of pipe sizes and trickier spaces in which to work (usually) make it a valuable skill

  5. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Jeff Montalvo says:

    Great video. You're going to anger the elitist who feel that only Oxy Acetylene should be used in HVAC lol. I use both but a turbo torch on an MC tank is my absolute favorite for rooftop repairs. Everything I need is light and fits in a backpack.

  6. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars JahonCross says:

    Can't believe you guys are doing this amazing quality ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ˜

  7. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars kbouwman64 says:

    I've used Mapp gas, air-acetylene, oxy-acetylene, and for the last 20 years, have used oxyfuel-gas. I do mostly commercial and find I need the precision and higher heat output of my current torch. That said, I would love to see a video about brazing in the wind and brazing large fittings, i.e. 1-3/8 to 2-1/8. Are there any tricks to keeping the torch burning in the wind? How do I know when I am reaching the upper limits of my torch size? Service area Kanata??

  8. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars TechFive says:

    I was told oxygen was the most dangerous thing in our truck. Storage wise

  9. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Garth Clark says:

    AKA "Colateral Damage". Something a lot of technicians need to learn about and prevent. Installers too. Are you in Ottawa ?

  10. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Deoran Ferguson says:

    Just wanted to know what's your view on the cap n hook tip or other tips

  11. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars D. Sack 2 says:

    When I was in trade school we had a bernzomatic and couple oxy-acetylenes to practice brazing. I personally preferred the bernzomatic because I found it faster and less of a hassle… Are air-acetylene like berzomatics? I'm just wondering. If they're nothing alike, could you send a link to an air-acetylene one

  12. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars CunningPlan says:

    I got a map can with turbo torch and I thought it would take me some time to get copper cherry red. Nope, it's quite fast, abt 10 seconds and it melts the brazing stick at 700 C. I feel like I will need simple prop-but with the turbo torch if i wanna efficiently solder with stay brite

  13. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Ryan Isaacson says:

    Air aceline for the win

  14. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Brad Johnson says:

    Thank you for taking the time and effort to produce this video. I am still using air- acetylene, and have for years, but am now seeing many techs using oxy- acetyleneโ€ฆgood to weigh the pros and cons.

  15. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Chris Talbert says:

    Thanks for the extra knowledge I gained from this video Service area Nepean??

  16. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars eablau says:

    Hi Brian, I would suggest for Oxy-Acetylene brazing rigs the use of Flashback arrestor's on both the handpiece and the regulators. OSHA does not require it, but may be a lifesaver when you use the 'Captains-Hook' burners or any Oxy-Acetylene burners with more than one flame tip. The more flame tips you have the higher the risk of a flashback. Had once a flashback on a captains hook where the flame went back into the neck of the captains hook and burnt through flashback arrestors were used on both the handpiece and the regulators and all the damage was a destroyed captains-hook burner. When I find out your e-mail address I will send you a photo of the destroyed captains hook.

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