Hey guys, if you're on the market for a heating and air system during the making of this video, looking at some of the new products coming out, the new Sear 2 products that are coming out I Want to go through Daiken's product lineup and before you click off of this I am going to be talking specifically about Viking So if you're not in the market for a dyke and I just want to point out a couple things before you click off of this. But later in this video, we're going to talk specifically about Daikins lineup and how they're handling this whole transition. So they're going from Sear to Sear Two and how they're going to handle that transition. But let me first say again before you click off of this and move on. If you say I'm not really interested in Daikin or I'm not purchasing a Daikin my dealer or my contractor that I'm selecting for my home does not sell Daikin One thing I've realized is it seems like a lot of the manufacturers they're all kind of handling it different ways. What I mean by that is some of them are saying. Look, we had our lineup 14, 15, 16, Seer and so on lineup of Sear 1 systems and they're just transitioning it over to CR2. So they're saying okay, the 14 Seer no longer meets the CO2 requirement so we're going to do away with that. But then 15 is going to be the 14.3 C or two. Basically not changing their lineup a whole lot. So they're basically it's the same products if you will, but it's Going to be the Seer 2. Now it's going to have the new rating attached to that. and then you see other companies that seem to be a little more that they're changing it entirely kind of attitude. So they're saying this was our lineup of 14, 15, 16 Seer stuff that's gone and now we've got our CR2 stuff that all the ratings are maybe going to be a little bit higher, the coils are going to be bigger, the system is going to be more efficient, and they're trying to reach these new efficiencies with the CR2 stuff. You're seeing a whole nother lineup if you will. The reason this all man matters is I Think if you go back to the companies that are handling it the first way, they are not changing their model numbers a whole lot. If at all they're changing it. maybe a little bit to say this is our CR2 stuff, but then the second line of companies if you will I haven't really dove into each and every one of them. I'm just seeing this on the outside. Looking in how some of the different manufacturers seem to be handling this, the company's handling it the second way will have basically a whole nother set of model numbers. They're going to say this is the old stuff, this is the new stuff. And here's our new lineup of model numbers and CO2 ratings attached to that lineup. And then finally I would say some companies are handling it a little bit of both. I would say Daikin Falls In that line where they're saying some of these products are going to stay exactly the same, they're basically saying the single stage 15 Seer system or 16 Seer system. Now that we're coming over to the CR2, we're now attaching a new rating to that and it's going to be 15.3 CR2 But it's essential the same product. But then they're saying some of the other products are going to be a little different. it's going to be a bigger coil or more efficient I would say they're sort of a hybrid of both. With that said, now that we're going to talk, uh, specifically about Daikin One thing that's important is let's say you are in the market for a system you've almost pretty much selected one. You've said this is what I'm going with I wanted the two stage 18 Seer system I've got the the inverter 18c or 20 Seer system. This is what I'm going with and now it's going away I Want to go through how this is all going to transition over So that way if you did sort of pick one out or if you're just looking at them in general, then you'll see the newer replacement for that. They're taking some of these products and it's basically an equivalent switch over just new model number and some of these are going to be kind of a little different. but in other words, most of these products will have some sort of replacement. If you selected something from the original, then you should have something that you can select from the new now. I Will say before we dive into this. Last thing is just realize some of these things don't have Ahri matches yet and I think you're going to find that with most manufacturers, you're going to find that if you were going to go for example, uh with Daikin If it was the fit heat pump, it did not have a dual fuel furnace match up if it was in the horizontal orientation. If the furnace was laid on its side with a horizontal evaporator coil, the fit did not have an HRI match for that. so you'd have to look at Dz20 or a Dz18 two stage. Okay, so just keep that in mind. Uh, as we go through this new stuff, you're going to see less ahr on matches. I'm being told they're working on that. they're going to get more matches, but where you might have used this coil before, you might have to use a different type of coil. maybe like a slab coil instead of an a coil or something like that. So you just realize that as we dive into this that they're still working on getting all the Ahri matches caught back up. So originally we had 13 and 14 SEER AC systems depending on what part of the country you're in, you may not have been able to purchase one of those I Think the southern states or the western states are a little more strict than the northern states on all this. And let me also say we are going to only focus on split systems with heat pumps ACS furnaces, air handler sort of stuff. I'm not going to talk about package units I'm not going to talk about Mini Splits We're only talking about the split systems for now. One thing that Daikin always did is they had their straight ACS They had DX in the model number at the beginning and then their heat pumps had DZ Z as in zebra That has not changed with the new CR2 stuff. If you look at the model numbers, the DX stuff is straight AC The DZ stuff is heat pumps. but the next change that you'll see is with the old stuff with the Cr1 stuff. That first number after the DX or DZ would be the Seer rating. In a lot of cases, once you do the Ahri that would get to the actual sear. So for example, if you had say a Dz18 and you matched it with a lower end air handler, you might only get 17 or 17 and a half Seer And then if you matched it with a higher end air handler then you might get 18 and a half if that makes sense. So depending on what the match is, you would get the specific Seer rating, but in most cases it would get you close. and it was a roundabout version. So when I was selling these systems, it was easy for me to say okay Mr customer I've got my Dz14 16, 18, and 20, right? Or you know the fit might be in there the Dz17. Now instead of having that number in there, the new stuff is going to have one number. You've got the Dx4, the Dx5 679, and so on. So same with the Dz's Dz4 5, 6, 7, and 9. that number in a lot of cases if you round up will get you close to what the old sear was. So for example, example, if you're looking at the Dz4 of the new CR2 stuff, if you round that up, it would be somewhat equivalent to say a 15 or 16 Seer system. and so a good example of that might be the old fits. The fit heat pump was a Dz17 and it's now going to be a Dz6, So when you're looking at that number if you were to round up. So if you add your one in there, so if you got a Dz6, add your one in there. now it's actually 16.2 CR2 is the rating. If you round that up to 17 again, that's equivalent to the Dz17 if that makes sense. That's the first thing I wanted to point out there. Another thing that is a little different is with the lower end system. So if it used to be, if you were going to buy a heat pump or AC that was single stage with Daikin with the old sear stuff you would have after that number. So if you had Dz14 it might have an SN or Sa After that, that was the series. if you you will, it might come with a little better warranty if you go with one system versus another. And then also the letters after that number would be if it was like a TC. It was a two-stage system, or if it was a Vs, it was a variable speed or VC it could be variable speed. So that V meant variable. Now transitioning over into the new stuff the CR2 stuff, they're going to have letters like SQ or SE instead of the SN or Sa. Essentially, that's still a series. It might have a little bit of a different warranty. What's really good though as far as that goes, If you are comparing, you're still going to have your Vstc and VC TC met two stage on the old stuff, TC still means two-stage on the new stuff. Anyway, Ultimately, if you were looking at a fit before, it was a Dz17 or Dx17, now it's going to be a DX or Dz6. Okay, if you were looking at the 20 Seer dz20 now it's gonna be a Dz9. Hopefully that makes sense. Let me know what your thoughts are down in the comments. It's going to take some getting used to for me specifically, especially as I was going through these and kind of offering them to our customers. I'm gonna put a chart Up In Here Also that will show you if the particular product that you're looking at is going to be offered in your area. So again the you know the specs are going to be raising with these new efficiency standards. I Think the confusing thing for a lot of folks is we went from sear to Seer 2 which is a little bit stricter ratings. We've talked about that in other videos. They have testing that they've never done before to meet these new standards. but they're also in addition to that raising the standard so it's not just where they said okay. we had a 14 Seer system before and that 14 Seer is now going to be a 13.2 CR2 Well now they're saying these standards have to be raised in certain parts of the country. If you were going to get a 14 before now, it's got to be a 15 which is equivalent to a 14.3 C or two. Anyway, let me know your thoughts. You are in the market for heating and Air system. Does this change something for you? The interesting thing for me is and it's not just Daikin it's been across the board is a lot of these new CO2 systems are going to be a little higher price tag. right or wrong. I've expressed how I feel about that in other videos, especially if it's the same product if it's the same amount of metal and refrigerant before as it is with the new stuff, should it cost more? Unfortunately, it sounds like across the board in general they will cost more. They're going to be in some cases, minimal, but still a higher price tag. So let me know if that changes anything for you. I'm just curious what everyone thinks of that and let me know if you do end up selecting a Daikin system good or bad I don't mind hearing a good or bad. 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